Fury and Lion Graphics. Devs please do something

[Chron]

<DIV>Hi,</DIV> <DIV>    Well this is a Problem from Beta the Lion form is WRONG! when we cast Peerless Predator we get the message you change form into a LION!  but become a LIONESS. </DIV> <DIV>Now if we cast Predatory salve we get the message your change form into a LIONESS but become a LION!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Now do you see a Problem because I do.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Another HUGE! bug which wants Fixxing ASAP is the fact if I make a player a lion the graphics go strange the player is either stood with his/her body in the ground and sometimes ends up assend first. These are Problems from BETA! I have on many occasions sent Bug reports off and NOTHING is done WHY!!!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Please Devs fix this...</DIV>

[Rizzen19]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Chronic wrote:<BR> <DIV>Hi,</DIV> <DIV>    Well this is a Problem from Beta the Lion form is WRONG! when we cast Peerless Predator we get the message you change form into a LION!  but become a LIONESS. </DIV> <DIV>Now if we cast Predatory salve we get the message your change form into a LIONESS but become a LION!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Now do you see a Problem because I do.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Another HUGE! bug which wants Fixxing ASAP is the fact if I make a player a lion the graphics go strange the player is either stood with his/her body in the ground and sometimes ends up assend first. These are Problems from BETA! I have on many occasions sent Bug reports off and NOTHING is done WHY!!!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Please Devs fix this...</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I'd like to think they have better things to fix ...

[vochore]

how about they just give us a comand to disable illusions if we want,as a 41 fury i sometimes get yelled at by the tank for changeing him or her into a tiger,i persanly hate lion form and only use it as a last resort. <div></div>

[DragonRoll]

<div></div><span><blockquote><hr>vochore wrote:how about they just give us a comand to disable illusions if we want,as a 41 fury i sometimes get yelled at by the tank for changeing him or her into a tiger,i persanly hate lion form and only use it as a last resort.<hr></blockquote></span><p>Tell the tank to A) do Guise quest or any of the eye quests, B) deal with it and click off the form after or C) Die b/c he doesn't want you to cast one of your fast heals. Yeah, the lion form is annoying -- but it is what it is.  /shrug.  People have complained from day 1 about it but I don't see them changing it anytime soon.  They truly do have more important things to fix first.  I'll take them working on balance among priests before working on lion form any day.Most of the groups I travel around with are all using some kind of illusion so I cast it on people just for the proc (oh, and the uber 7 agi or whatever it is).  Always have it on myself as well -- gotta love Guise.</p><span></span><div></div>

[Rizzen19]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> DragonRoll wrote:<BR> <SPAN><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> vochore wrote:<BR>how about they just give us a comand to disable illusions if we want,as a 41 fury i sometimes get yelled at by the tank for changeing him or her into a tiger,i persanly hate lion form and only use it as a last resort.<BR><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE></SPAN> <P>Tell the tank to A) do Guise quest or any of the eye quests, B) deal with it and click off the form after or C) Die b/c he doesn't want you to cast one of your fast heals. <BR><BR>Yeah, the lion form is annoying -- but it is what it is.  /shrug.  People have complained from day 1 about it but I don't see them changing it anytime soon.  They truly do have more important things to fix first.  I'll take them working on balance among priests before working on lion form any day.<BR><BR>Most of the groups I travel around with are all using some kind of illusion so I cast it on people just for the proc (oh, and the uber 7 agi or whatever it is).  Always have it on myself as well -- gotta love Guise.</P><SPAN></SPAN> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Well said.

[Katx]

<P>You know, I disagree with the whole "tell the tank to deal with it" mentality.  Their complaints about the effects on vision, perspective, targeting and manuverability are quite legitimate.</P> <P>I would support removing the lion graphic or something along those lines.  But telling the tank "deal with it" isn't a viable option for me.  It's a shame they made this spell practically unusable unless someone already has a shape shift.</P> <p>Message Edited by Katxim on <span class=date_text>03-24-2005</span> <span class=time_text>10:51 AM</span>

[Bes]

You are rehashing this [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] again? Let it die. <div></div>

[Chron]

<DIV>Why let it die I pay MONEY to play this game and if something is not working as it should, should I just ignore it ??? </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>As for it not being important they changed lots of thing in this game which I would class a waste ie: con system(does anyone use that new system, I think not)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Graphics are what make and SELL a game today if they can't be bothered about how I game looks that does not say very much for the rest of the Game does it...</DIV>

[mind|e]

<DIV>shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>How is it tho with all the f'd up things that fury's have to worry about that you are really upset about weather you are a given a message that properly addresses the gender of your fictional king of the forest? Lobby for the illusion to be taken away, for ferine elixir to heal for 1400, for our hate to go down.....sh17 man, lobby for the preservation of the rainforest!  Just find something that actually matters <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> </DIV>

[Rizzen19]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Chronic wrote:<BR> <DIV>Why let it die I pay MONEY to play this game and if something is not working as it should, should I just ignore it ??? </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>As for it not being important they changed lots of thing in this game which I would class a waste ie: con system(does anyone use that new system, I think not)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Graphics are what make and SELL a game today if they can't be bothered about how I game looks that does not say very much for the rest of the Game does it...</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Graphics are what make and sell a game .. hmmmm ... </P> <P>Chronic please, please don't be a game developer when you grow up? The world needs more .. firemen and vets and stuff.</P> <P> </P>

[Chron]

<DIV>Well all I can say is you people are VERY VERY STRANGE!!!  no think Weird would be better...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>And if you think Graphics don't sell a game we should all still be on 8bit computers as they had no graphics...</DIV><p>Message Edited by Chronic on <span class=date_text>03-25-2005</span> <span class=time_text>10:12 PM</span>

[Rizzen19]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Chronic wrote:<BR> <DIV>Well all I can say is you people are VERY VERY STRANGE!!!  no think Weird would be better...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>And if you think Graphics don't sell a game we should all still be on 8bit computers as they had no graphics...</DIV> <P>Message Edited by Chronic on <SPAN class=date_text>03-25-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>10:12 PM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Graphics don't MAKE a game .. they are pretty to look at but that's about it. No one is saying the graphical glitches are not annoying or even that the lion form is cool .. because it's not. We're saying Fury's have a lot of other issues for the devs to worry about other than this. </P> <P> </P> <P> </P>

[IveDefected]

<DIV> <DIV>oh dear...so youre telling me that if solitare had bump mapped numbers and real time shadows that you would pay 15$ a month to play it....hmmm.</DIV> <DIV>Please find some legitimate concerns.</DIV></DIV>

[Rumbler]

<DIV>I've never noticed the text issue but agree the graphics problem is an issue worth noting. It's prett funny seeing people running around with their feet in the air but it definately needs to be added to the bug list. Perhaps it should be listed under the graphics art section.</DIV>

[DevilsMistresss]

This thread was somewhat derailed and I'd like to bring it back on track. I know this is just graphics and in the end does little with the game mechanics but PLEASE can you let lions sit? Every other class has the animal form ability to sit except the Fury's lion form. It only helps to make us feel more and more unloved and uncared about. Now I don't know if this is possible, but is there any chance that male Furies could turn into male lions? Since SoE chose a cat that has a distinctive male/female look I think it is only fair to make it gender related. They could have chosen a panther or a similar cat and had no issues, but choosing to use a lion really emphasises the visuals of the character. They already have the male and female lion graphics so it is that hard to implement some little bit of code that says: if fury=male then THIS form (or whatever. I don't pretend to know much about programming). This is just a suggestion that I believe would be a great comfort to all Furies, especially the male ones. Another graphic issue here... please, for the love of Tunare, fix how the female lion form looks! Facially she looks like her eyes have been rubbed in the dirt. I took a comparison screenshot of myself (female lion form) next to a friend (male lion form) to see how the different faces looked and was rather shocked at how awul the Fury's face was. The eyes are lifeless (and a single off-brown colour) and the face look so unappealing whereas the male form has much clearer eyes and a more cat-like face. I'm sure something could be done about this.... please art dept?!? Well I ended up writing a little more than I intended to and I love my Fury, but these are some issues that have been bugging me for a long time. <div></div>

[pipcec]

<P>For all those furies that wish to no longer be lions, here is a suggestion that may help.  As most furies already know, the first illusion always takes presidence, so for example if I have transedent predetor on me and cast my predatory salve, I still stay the same illusion as my transedent predator.  So keeping that in mind, either quest or purchase a illusion eye for your race, illusion yourself (you should stay the same - anyone tried this for sure?), and then cast peerless predator or whatever. You will always look normal and like yourself.  So if the fury illusions bother you that much, you can take this path.</P> <P>Phaelo, 43 Dwarf Fury</P>

[IveDefected]

DevilsMistresss wrote "...but is there any chance that male Furies could turn into male lions? Since SoE chose a cat that has a distinctive male/female look I think it is only fair to make it gender related" <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>On that note id like to add...could you make the Fairy Form gender specific as well...My guildmates tease me so....<img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV>but really who could blame them i go from being a burly Dwarf in purple armor to a Female Fairy who rubs herself constantly...wait...forget the pruple armor comment it does little to help my case....</DIV>

[Strade]

Seriously, is it that important the sex of the lion or whatever it is? I think its more importnt they give furies a sit animation at least on the first place. And give a color to the eys please. Its scary that way.

[quetzaqotl]

<P>if they woulve made the lion black i guess there wouldnt be so many gender probs.</P> <P>Tho i havent seen my lion form in weeks got the guise of th deceiver over it.</P> <P>It sux not getting to see your armor, hehe would be cool too if the lion could wear armor (reminds me of that he-man tiger from ages ago hehe that would rock a green lion would be sweet too hehe).</P>

[jpelr]

I think it is Mountain Lion.  they have no mane.  If it has a cosmetic problem its the fact that they never put in a sitting graphic.<p>Message Edited by jpelric on <span class=date_text>04-06-2005</span> <span class=time_text>08:39 AM</span>

[Draize]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> jpelric wrote:<BR> I think it is Mountain Lion.  they have no mane.  If it has a cosmetic problem its the fact that they never put in a sitting graphic. <P>Message Edited by jpelric on <SPAN class=date_text>04-06-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>08:39 AM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Seen this posted elsewhere, and believe it to be true, note MOUNTAIN lion, not the kind that roams the african plains or wherever they go.</P> <P>Predatory Salve though would be nice to see it gender specific, but its a small niggle, outweighed by the advantages it gives, at least as far as my reg group is concerned, because we prefer the gameplay over the cosmetics.</P>

[Chron]

<DIV>Hi,</DIV> <DIV>   Glad I got some people to Talk about this at Last! Ok I see a few of you still think this is nothing and should not be addressed Ok I say BUT don't forget we have to look at the Graphics nearly 100% of the time (unless we use an eye/mask) and its not very nice when you know something is wrong.</DIV> <DIV>I have said before this was the same in BETA! and even then I bug/feedback on what was wrong and I know so many other players did the same, I would have thought with us paying MONEY to Play now we would see improvements in Graphics but I guess there graphics department must have more important work to do its a Shame as this Lion form could have been something to be PROUD! of but as it stands its a shameful form.</DIV>

[WarXand]

<DIV>I feel a /showform command should be given to players...Just like the /showhood.  People didn't want their facial expressions covered by a helm so the /showhood command was implimented and even thought the hood is not visible it still provides protection.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Its the same thing if a /showform was implimented then any druids that didn't want to view their character as an animal wouldn't and any tanks could do the same thing..</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>This would solve the problem and make everyone happy...</DIV>

[IveDefected]

<div></div>scroll down a bit ill you find Blackguards post <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> (im rusty on my HTML dont know the link code <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />)http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=17&message.id=4969#M496<div></div><p><span class="date_text"></span><span class="time_text"> </span></p><p><span class="date_text"></span><span class="time_text"> </span></p><p>Message Edited by IveDefected on <span class=date_text>04-10-2005</span> <span class=time_text>02:28 PM</span>

[Strade]

Bah ! I liked the lioness graphic better <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Vila]

<DIV>You think you have lion form problems? I'm currently stuck with half my lion body in the ground.  I can't move.  There has been no assistance since I reported this bug half an hour ago, so the only thing I can see to do is log out! *grumble*</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Sorry the colour isn't very clear, but thats me in the middle of the pic there, the lion head....</DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://au.[Removed for Content].com/kina_sunrunner/stuck.JPG"></DIV>

[Dadkin]

<DIV>Well, it looks like the "crusade" is over. Trans Pred is now gender speciific. Case closed and we can finally get onto something really important. What I am really PO'd about is the color of my characters eyes. When I was setting him up I chose "ice-blue" and in-game they look more "sky blue". The Devs better drop what they are doing and fix this NOW!! I mean I pay to play this game and graphics are everything, right?? Hey Devs!!! Forget about all that great new content you are working on, I want my eyes fixed NOW!!!! :smileyvery-happy:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Dadkin</DIV> <DIV>sky blue eyed 43 Fury / 25 Sage</DIV>

[Fou]

<DIV>Too bad Feral Salve now makes EVERYONE a female lion.  :smileysad:   I'm guessing it's checking 'my' gender and not the target's gender when I cast it on them.  Only saving grace:  The guys can turn off the illusion.  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[Chron]

<P>Let me just say  A BIG THANK YOU!!! to the dev team for fixing this.. I bow down to you..</P> <P> </P> <P>Oh by the way for those that don't know the Command to stop lion Graphics is <FONT color=#ff0000>/Hide_illusions</FONT></P> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks again <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>