Symmetry and other +s to heals

[Dillin]

<DIV>Does anyone know if these stack at all?  Like will Symmetry IV stack with Symmetry IX or any other of the additional heal amounts.</DIV>

[frostbane]

<DIV>yes they will stack...but the problem is they are normalized now.  So +30 healing spread across 6 ticks of a regen is only +5 each tick.  So at +90 symmetry you'd have a whole +15 per regen tick....</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If you ask me these are just a whole slew of items that benefit the other healers much more then us, especially since there are better cloaks (FT 3), better off-hand and ranged items and what not that will give more wisdom/power then ones that might come with + heals!</DIV>

[Fingolfin2]

<P>They are also normalized against cast times, since we cast fast the effect is reduced.</P> <P> +30 heal adornments only heals +30 on a 3sec cast spell.<BR>On a 1.5 sec cast spell its +15, then spread across the tics.</P> <P>They dont take into account recast timers for some reason either </P><p>Message Edited by Fingolfin2 on <span class=date_text>12-20-2006</span> <span class=time_text>01:00 PM</span>

[Isard]

<P>So basically they are a complete waste of adornment space and you are better off having FT or other effect items, seeing as its a rare day indeed that +5 to a heal is going to make the difference in a tough fight, even if it is a long fight.</P> <P> </P>

[Cale2281]

<P>I notice that in my heal over time spells the first tick is heavily frontloaded when my sym items are on.  So on my single target regen the first tick may be 699 and all the others are around 650 or something.  </P> <P>It makes me laugh that people complain about +5 per tick to a heal but go crazy over 2 extra points of mana every 6 seconds...+ to heal crit doesn't increase your heals that much either but it is something extra.  </P>

[frostbane]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cale2281 wrote:<BR> <P>I notice that in my heal over time spells the first tick is heavily frontloaded when my sym items are on.  So on my single target regen the first tick may be 699 and all the others are around 650 or something.  </P> <P>It makes me laugh that people complain about +5 per tick to a heal but go crazy over 2 extra points of mana every 6 seconds...+ to heal crit doesn't increase your heals that much either but it is something extra.  </P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>No what matters to me is that over the course of a raid i lose SOOOO many ticks of regen it's sad that i can still be top 3-4 in heals.  So what matters to me is that at the end of the fight when it's looking like a toss up whether you will win or not, your tank is spiking...i want to know that when i reach back to go into heal my A%*  off mode to keep the tank up that i'm going to have the power to do it.  Adding an extra 5-10 to a tick isn't going to help me, being able to chain cast heals (including expensive group ones) will.  Having to stack 3-4 + heal items to even get myself to near 20 a tick extra healing isn't worth it when i could use those slots to get myself probably 20 or more FT from those slots!<p>Message Edited by frostbane on <span class=date_text>12-20-2006</span> <span class=time_text>05:41 PM</span>

[Cale2281]

i'm not saying FT isn't worth anything but I think the relative merits of FT1 or SymIV are pretty indistinguishable.  Also, I've yet to run across an instance where I had to choose between +heals and FT.  win win and put +heal adornment on a FT item. 

[HVA]

<DIV>FT is capped at some point. Cant remember where though. Maybe someone can help ?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>And what powerregens goes into this cap ?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>FT gear ?</DIV> <DIV>Spirit of the bat ?</DIV> <DIV>Powerregens from groupmembers, i.e. chanters ?</DIV>

[Cale2281]

<DIV>The power regen cap is around 104 (give or take a couple)... basically 1/2 that can come from gear (flowing thought) and 1/2 can come from spells (bard song, spirit of the bat, etc).  Gear and adornments that proc a power increase aren't included under the power regen cap though. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Aditu (our guild genius and ACT guru) did some testing with Symmetry and +heals and the increase to heals seems to be capped at 100% of the original spells value.  With master spells in t7 that makes it virtually impossible to cap with the gear I've seen so far.  Maybe there is a healing pulse XX or M out there I don't know about.  Also, some gear shows symmetry but the effect is healing pulse so it may be a difficult thing to see with mouseovers.</DIV>

[CanibusSmoka]

<DIV>okay im playin on a pvp server right now, but im sure this still applies... people are monsters too <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV>the thing i have been working towards is the crit heals. so far everyone that has been testing the +heal ticks it isnt enough of an improvement, yes maybe some1 will go purple and bounce back but the sec they get up they are gonna get smacked again and most likely die that hit.</DIV> <DIV>go for FT and heal crits -- if u crit u'll get more heal than adding + per tick</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>