New Warden Questions

[G]

I am a lvl13 Warden(Just bought the game actually) and I am confused on a few things.I read the Warden FAQ.1) <font size="2"><b><font color="#ffff00">Apprentice 2 </font>     </b>Purchased from NPC vendors in CitiesShould I be using the majority of my money towards this or look into gettin crafted armor instead?  Or try to buy Adept 1 from brokers?2) Should I be trying to harvest these rare gems for Adept 3?3) I am on a PvP server and I am about to hit 14... any advice on what to upgrade to Master 2?  I was thinking either:</font><font color="#ffffff" size="2">(12) Regrowth </font><font color="#ffffff" size="2">- Single Target Regen </font><font color="#ffffff" size="2">[19 Greater Regrowth] </font><font color="#ffffff" size="2">(14) Winds of Renewal</font><font color="#ffffff" size="2"> </font><font color="#ffffff" size="2">- Group Regen</font> <font color="#ffffff" size="2">[28 Blessings of Earth] </font><font color="#ffffff" size="2">     Dunno, so much about the game I have no idea about =p</font><div></div>

[Arielle Nightshade]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Gop wrote:<BR>I am a lvl13 Warden(Just bought the game actually) and I am confused on a few things.<BR><BR>I read the Warden FAQ.<BR><BR>1) <FONT size=2><B><FONT color=#ffff00>Apprentice 2 </FONT>     </B>Purchased from NPC vendors in Cities<BR><BR>Should I be using the majority of my money towards this or look into gettin crafted armor instead?  Or try to buy Adept 1 from brokers?<BR><BR>2) Should I be trying to harvest these rare gems for Adept 3?<BR><BR>3) I am on a PvP server and I am about to hit 14... any advice on what to upgrade to Master 2?  I was thinking either:<BR><BR></FONT><FONT color=#ffffff size=2>(12) Regrowth </FONT><FONT color=#ffffff size=2>- Single Target Regen </FONT><FONT color=#ffffff size=2>[19 Greater Regrowth] <BR></FONT><FONT color=#ffffff size=2>(14) Winds of Renewal</FONT><FONT color=#ffffff size=2> </FONT><FONT color=#ffffff size=2>- Group Regen</FONT> <FONT color=#ffffff size=2>[28 Blessings of Earth] </FONT><FONT color=#ffffff size=2>     <BR><BR>Dunno, so much about the game I have no idea about =p<BR></FONT> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Welcome to the game, baby wolflet <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  </P> <P>Here's my 2 coppers worth:</P> <P>1)  Don't buy an Apprentice 2 if you can avoid it.   Try and get Adept 1 of your spells AT LEAST.    Try and get the best quality of everything you can afford.  </P> <P>In my opinion, on a PvP server, your money should go to armor first, since the mitigation will keep you alive and the stat bonuses will give you more power, even if your spells are not the highest quality.    If you at all can, work to upgrade both armor and spells, but if you have to pick between them at first, I say go armor.  You can have master spells, but if they killed you like a hot knife through butter, it doesn't matter how good your heals are.</P> <P>2)  Absolutely harvest rares to get your Adept 3's - my advice is upgrade your spells before you upgrade your rings and whatnot (rare stones make both items), heals first.</P> <P>3)  For your 14 Upgrade choice, I'd pick Winds of Renewal.  As you can see Regrowth upgrades at 19 ..which is not far down the road for you, tier 2 (10 - 19) goes fast.  If you are PvPing either solo or with a group, your group regen is always the spell you can use even if taunted off a single target.  </P> <P>What I mean by this is:  the other side's job is to make sure you don't heal.  If you have someone targeted (single target) to heal, and the other side's tank taunts you, you will lose that target, have to regain it, and lose that time casting.  A group regen, however, will heal even if no one single person is targeted.  Plus the Master 2 quality of that regen is nice, and it will not be upgraded for 14 levels - also very nice to have it for that long in Master 2.</P> <P>If you are on the Freeport side..welcome <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  If you are on the Qeynos side....welcome too...but level fast, little tasty morsel!  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>Regards, <BR></P>

[G]

<div></div>Thanks for the reply Ariel.  I am on the Qeynos side so I have more ppl to fight.On the Armor subject should I just go to the broker? Vendor or try to find a Player to make me some armor?I tried lookin up Adept 1 Spells on the Broker... WOW.  Ppl wanted like a few G's for them.  I dont even have 1G!I just read about harvesting rares.. I dreally dont even know how that all works yet.  Is that the "?"s you see in the ground and can harvest?Ive tried lvling in The Cave or something but constantly killed by like a full group of lvl14 all day =DAlso does our Food/Water Spell ever become decent?  I was looking at the OOC Regen it provides and its worse than the food/water my toon started with!  Im so tempted to buy food/water from a vendor but moneys tight!  I was thinking maybe I should take up a tradeskill but I am just so lost.<div></div><p>Message Edited by Gop on <span class=date_text>10-07-2006</span> <span class=time_text>12:45 AM</span>

[MullenSkywatcher]

<div></div><div><blockquote><hr>Gop wrote:<div></div>Thanks for the reply Ariel.  I am on the Qeynos side so I have more ppl to fight.On the Armor subject should I just go to the broker? Vendor or try to find a Player to make me some armor? <font color="#ffff00">Broker armor baaaaaad.  Quest and player made armor gooooood.</font>I tried lookin up Adept 1 Spells on the Broker... WOW.  Ppl wanted like a few G's for them.  I dont even have 1G!  <font color="#ffff00">If you havent picked a tradeskill yet, Sage or Tailor are good for you, as you can make your own spells and armor and maybe make some money also.</font>I just read about harvesting rares.. I dreally dont even know how that all works yet.  Is that the "?"s you see in the ground and can harvest? <font color="#ffff00">The ?s are for collection quests, they can also sell well (for the rarer ones) on the broker.  The harvest nodes are the roots, dens, rocks, shrubs, and schools of fish that you can harvest by clicking on them.  They give you the items you need for tradeskills and sometimes cough up a rare harvest that can be used to make better spells/items/etc.</font>Ive tried lvling in The Cave or something but constantly killed by like a full group of lvl14 all day =DAlso does our Food/Water Spell ever become decent?  I was looking at the OOC Regen it provides and its worse than the food/water my toon started with!  Im so tempted to buy food/water from a vendor but moneys tight!  I was thinking maybe I should take up a tradeskill but I am just so lost.  <font color="#ffff00">Summoned food is barely better than no food and doesnt get upgraded...  Maybe in EoF...</font><div></div><p>Message Edited by Gop on <span class="date_text">10-07-2006</span> <span class="time_text">12:45 AM</span></p><hr></blockquote><font color="#ffff00">Listen to Ariel....Ariel is wise....Ariel is smart....if you have to choose between listening to Ariel or me....listen to her!  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />P.S.   You had me at "I read the Warden FAQ"...  (wipes a tear of joy away from his face)</font></div><p>Message Edited by MullenSkywatcher on <span class=date_text>10-07-2006</span> <span class=time_text>07:30 AM</span>

[tass]

I really wouldnt chose a pvp server to learn the game as it can be a pain somtimes. But if you must one of the most important things to learn as a healer is ooc healing of urself. This will say ur life countless times while en enemy wastes all his power and then u can kill em. ooc healing for other peeps is 1 of those bonuses you can do but most of the time I was a warden I just said screw it and let lower peeps fight there own battles. Nothing I hate more than a freep with an end game healer attached so I usually didn't do it to them.<div></div>

[Arielle Nightshade]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> holystones wrote:<BR>I really wouldnt chose a pvp server to learn the game as it can be a pain somtimes. But if you must one of the most important things to learn as a healer is ooc healing of urself. This will say ur life countless times while en enemy wastes all his power and then u can kill em. ooc healing for other peeps is 1 of those bonuses you can do but most of the time I was a warden I just said screw it and let lower peeps fight there own battles. Nothing I hate more than a freep with an end game healer attached so I usually didn't do it to them.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Do this while it lasts....I don't think the out of encounter or out of group healing mechanism is going to be around for the rest of the game...just my insight on it.  It's probably the one of the biggest complaints the devs get.   "Immortal Healing" is the worst mechanic available in the game - where the lvl 70 is out there healing the level 20's so they can get faction and status they couldn't otherwise get because they suck.   (Side note:  when we see an immortal healer on our alts, we usually kill them, camp, get on our mains and kill them again.   We disapprove of the mechanic..<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> )</P> <P>That rant over....(what I meant to say is: dont' get used to it as an available mechanic...it works if you are attacked, but not if you attack first.  ...for now)</P> <P>What I might do, if you are out harvesting a lot, but are not sure you want to tradeskill:  Find someone who does the skill you need and offer to trade harvests for armor, spells, jewelry,etc.  Many, many tradeskillers, especially on the Qeynos side would prefer not to harvest cause they get killed all the time.  If you are more adventurous, and are out getting what they need, you could have a very nice trade arrangement going.  (Before someone jumps on me...it's not a Qeynos criticism...its, as the OP said...Qeynos gets beat up more).</P> <P>Don't buy vendor armor.   (Vendor being different than broker...).. If you examine it, you will notice it doesn't have any stat bonuses - unlike most dropped or crafted does.  If you get a piece of dropped armor with no stats on it...sell it.  We fondly refer to it as 'vendor trash'  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Try and get equipment that has SOME stats on it.  Whatever you can afford.  Sell EVERYTHING you bring in that you don't need.  </P> <P>If you start crafting and are making things in the 10-19 and 20-29 range, you might find you make a lot of money.  Lots of people are making alts and level locking them to PvP.   So you wouldn't have to grind a tradeskill to 70 in order to finally see some profit. </P> <P>And thank you for reading the Warden FAQ.  It was written just for you...and you have made Mullen a Happy Warden.../hugs</P> <P>P.S. No. The food/water summon spell never become decent.  Ever.   Buy or make your own food.  Even lower tiered food (1-9) crafted..is better than the Summon Food and Water spell.  And if anyone (past level 5) asks you to summon them some food and water...in a group...type /leave  LOL.   (ok maybe I exaggerate, but not much).</P> <P>P.P.S.  Hard to comment about good places to level solo - Some wardens are able to solo easily, I hate being solo.  As a matter of fact, if you EVER see me solo...something just went horribly wrong.   The best thing to do is shop around, start meeting people, and get into a good group.  Group PvP is why I came to my server (abandoning a 62 Warden and Templar on PvE... <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  ) - if you just want 1v1 pvp, try rolling a character on a non PvP server to try it out...you can Duel there, and solo level to your heart's content without getting ganked.<BR></P><p>Message Edited by Arielle Nightshade on <span class=date_text>10-07-2006</span> <span class=time_text>11:39 AM</span>

[MullenSkywatcher]

<blockquote><hr>Arielle Nightshade wrote:<div></div> <div></div> <div></div> <p>And thank you for reading the Warden FAQ.  It was written just for you...<font color="#ffff00">and you have made Mullen a Happy Warden.../hugs</font></p> <hr></blockquote> Someone read the FAQ and then Arielle gave me a hug!  (Better than winning relic!) FYI, Halflings don't give hugs, we give /HUGGLES!!  (Especially while wearing the class hat!)<div></div>

[G]

Thanks for all the help so far.  I think I am going to take up whatever cooking is for better food/water.  Wouldnt mind tailoring for some decent leather but oh well.....I have a new character trait to choose which is based on resistances... for PvP which is the most important resist to focus on.?  I realize all are important but is there 1 resist is particular I should focus on.  Like in EQ I know Magic was the biggest to avoid snares/root/etc.<div></div>

[Arielle Nightshade]

<DIV>It depends on what you are fighting.  Cold and Heat is not such a necessary resistance to choose, since that's what Wardens buff the best.  I realllly hate telling you how to make yourself invulnerable to enemy attack since you are Qeynosian.   I will say:  Who are you fighting..and what is the damage they do the most?  That's the resistance you should have....</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I juuust can't...say...more!! GAH!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>::grin:::</DIV>

[G]

<div></div>Ill figure it out before I pick that trait then =O  Magic or Disease!!=(Well I hit 20.. needless to say "Protector of the Forest" is SO annoying.  The constant barking !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<div></div><p>Message Edited by Gop on <span class=date_text>10-07-2006</span> <span class=time_text>05:36 PM</span>

[Arielle Nightshade]

<DIV>eek..no!  We LOVE our wolves!!  Grats on 20, welcome to the Pack <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />    </DIV> <DIV><BR>Type /hide and you will look like yourself, but still have the wolf protection and see invis qualities in place.   In a lot of cases, to wander around PvPing looking like a wolf means you could have just cut to the chase and named yourself "Killme Im'Thehealer"     <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[G]

Oh much better /hide.I gave up on tradeskills =O  I think Ill stick to the game before I take one up.I went with the Disease Mit since there was no magic option.  <div></div>

[originator]

<DIV>Lol i didnt nkow about the /hide <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> i been runnin around in ant in wolf form since ive had it lol. maybe thats why i'm not a destroyer yet <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />. </DIV>

[Arielle Nightshade]

<P>Oh no..LOL.   </P>

[originator]

<DIV>Lol dont laugh <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />. I got my first peace of pvp gear today though out of North Freeport. [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] 7500 faction points -.-. Im also trying to find the guy in N Freeport so i can convert a couple masters i have, but i cant find him.</DIV>

[Arielle Nightshade]

<DIV>You guys don't forget to start looking at your Achievement Skill lines.   Look at "Skills" in your menu and get at least the first one.   Make sure you get a good look at what each path does, so you can allot points to the next skill on the fly - cause you've already chosen how you are going to go.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>You get Achievement points from exploration discoveries, killing nameds, doing quests, and turning in collections.   There are some nice things there for PvPers...take a look at the FAQ to see...if you can't quite figure it out in your User Interface.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Arielle Nightshade]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> originator wrote:<BR> <DIV>Lol dont laugh <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />. I got my first peace of pvp gear today though out of North Freeport. [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] 7500 faction points -.-. Im also trying to find the guy in N Freeport so i can convert a couple masters i have, but i cant find him.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>He's in NFP across from the Jade Tiger Inn. Go through the gate from West Freeport, turn right the first time you can.  There's kind of a little strip mall there, he's about 4 doors down on the right.  Called Oracle someone......and grats on your first piece of PVP gear...a milestone YAY.</P> <P><BR> </P>

[originator]

<DIV>Yeah... i havent done much exploration. Ive killed a few names here and htere because they were there. I just mainly been pvping lol. Just hit 650 kills today <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />. I still think im going to take the Int/Sta lines...but not sure which ones to take on them.</DIV>

[Arielle Nightshade]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Gop wrote:<BR>Oh much better /hide.<BR><BR>I gave up on tradeskills =O  I think Ill stick to the game before I take one up.<BR><BR>I went with the Disease Mit since there was no magic option.  <BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>There are many people who can't stand tradeskilling.  And there are some that can't stand adventuring and love tradeskills.  My advice stands to find one of those and ask if you can make a deal to trade raws for items.  Most of them will do it...but find nice ones.  Don't put up with crap from anyone....gathering is as important as making the thing, IMO.<BR>

[originator]

<DIV>Ahh okay then ill try to find it. I logged out somewhere int aht strip mall but sitll havent found him lol. When i take my break from work and go home ill atempt to search again!... [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] cant even find the guy when im in the proximity of him thats pretty bad <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />.</DIV>

[originator]

<DIV>I mine alot on my assassin i usually sell the rares so i can get cash to buy gear. But adepts are usually a decent price. It's the adep 3's and masters that are hard to find and are insanely priced.</DIV>

[Arielle Nightshade]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> originator wrote:<BR> <DIV>Ahh okay then ill try to find it. I logged out somewhere int aht strip mall but sitll havent found him lol. When i take my break from work and go home ill atempt to search again!... [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] cant even find the guy when im in the proximity of him thats pretty bad <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>An assasin friend said that he was standing right in front of 'where he should be' and he was gone...then all the sudden he poofed into place.  So if you go into the Oracle shop...wait a sec and he'll be drawn in.  Some weird graphics bug.</P> <P><BR>Also, check your PM's.    I sent you a message re: AA's <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR></P>

[originator]

Aye I did. I also sent you a message back <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />. Ok i'll wait for him to see if he comes. I have been noticing alot a lil lag on servers lately. Maybe because fo the live event? With everyone doing that stupid gnoll thing.

[Arielle Nightshade]

Awesome...Agi's a very good choice.  That's what I took  ::Grin:::

[originator]

<DIV>Yeah i hear its greatness for a warden :O. I want a bow!</DIV>

[G]

There is a six part progressive quest starting at level 20 for wardens, rewarding you with a different piece of armor for each completed quest<font color="#ffff00"><b>For Qeynos Wardens</b></font><font color="#ffff00">:</font> South Qeynos, under the tree on the east side. Selwyn Oakheart will give you quests for all your armour pieces.  <a target="_blank" href="http://eq2.ogaming.com/db/quests/SelwynsErrandsPartI.php"><span>http://eq2.ogaming.com/db/quests/SelwynsErrandsPartI.php</span></a>Is that worthwhile to do?  It seems in most games stuff from quests is usually pretty crappy so before I go trek off and do this I just wanna make sure the rewards are worthwhile!<div></div>

[Arielle Nightshade]

<DIV>Yep..well worth it.  Every single piece has Wis on it.  There are many Wardens who have worn some of those pieces well past when they might have gotten other armor because of that.  It's a fun quest line.  Well..it's fun the first time.  After that, you'll never do it again...and will run screaming <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Kind of a rite of passage.  You want to be able to look newer players in the eye and say "I did those quests, you whippersnapper!! Uphill..in the SNOW!!"</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Also, for a lot of it, you'll need a group.  1. because some of the mobs are groupish and 2. all of it is in overland zones where you may come across PvP.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>P.S.   Selwyn is not now, nor will ever be a PK.   Sorry.  She's never a killable NPC.  More's the pity........</DIV><p>Message Edited by Arielle Nightshade on <span class=date_text>10-07-2006</span> <span class=time_text>09:19 PM</span>

[originator]

<DIV>Yeah its worth it. especially if you aren't loaded and cant buy twinked out armor. That armor does a decent job until lvl 30 at least i hear it does. Id do it but im to lazy to do the quests haha. Besides im lvl 29 now almost 30. Got there from pvping, but yeah id say the AQ's are a decent thing to do.</DIV>

[Suite]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> MullenSkywatcher wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR><FONT color=#ffff00>Listen to Ariel....Ariel is wise....Ariel is smart....if you have to choose between listening to Ariel or me....listen to her!  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR><BR>P.S.   You had me at "I read the Warden FAQ"...  (wipes a tear of joy away from his face)<BR></FONT></DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><FONT color=#ffccff>Beware of Ariel... Ariel is Freep!... Ariel is deadly! ... if you have to choose between meeting Ariel in game and running... <FONT size=5>RUN!!!!!</FONT></FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#ffccff>Be safe, fellow Qeynosian!</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#ffccff>Suite</FONT><BR></P>

[MullenSkywatcher]

<blockquote><hr>Suite wrote:<div></div> <blockquote> <hr> MullenSkywatcher wrote: <div></div> <div><font color="#ffff00">Listen to Ariel....Ariel is wise....Ariel is smart....if you have to choose between listening to Ariel or me....listen to her!  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />P.S.   You had me at "I read the Warden FAQ"...  (wipes a tear of joy away from his face)</font></div> <hr> </blockquote> <p><font color="#ffccff">Beware of Ariel... Ariel is Freep!... Ariel is deadly! ... if you have to choose between meeting Ariel in game and running... <font size="5">RUN!!!!!</font></font></p> <p><font color="#ffccff">Be safe, fellow Qeynosian!</font></p> <p><font color="#ffccff">Suite</font></p><hr></blockquote>(Over the waterfall leading to Hidden Refuge) Arielle: *cuts off Mullenn's paw Mullenn: AAAAARRRGGHHHH! Arielle: Suite never told you what happened to your mother Mullenn: She told me enough!  She told me you killed her! Arielle: No Mullenn.... I AM YOUR MOTHER! Mullenn: No.  It can't be.  That's no true!  That's impossible! Arielle: Search your feelings Mullenn, you know them to be true! Mullenn:  NOOOOOOOOOOO! *thows himself off the waterfall to the rocks below* Arielle:  All too easy... <div></div>

[G]

Started the Armor Quest... needless to say found out cant solo the runecasters at lvl21 =OBut at least when I was killing the 12 Clerics I only got owned about 8 times by PK's<div></div>

[Arielle Nightshade]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> MullenSkywatcher wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Suite wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> MullenSkywatcher wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR><FONT color=#ffff00>Listen to Ariel....Ariel is wise....Ariel is smart....if you have to choose between listening to Ariel or me....listen to her!  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR><BR>P.S.   You had me at "I read the Warden FAQ"...  (wipes a tear of joy away from his face)<BR></FONT></DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><FONT color=#ffccff>Beware of Ariel... Ariel is Freep!... Ariel is deadly! ... if you have to choose between meeting Ariel in game and running... <FONT size=5>RUN!!!!!</FONT></FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#ffccff>Be safe, fellow Qeynosian!</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#ffccff>Suite</FONT><BR></P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>(Over the waterfall leading to Hidden Refuge)<BR><BR>Arielle: *cuts off Mullenn's paw<BR><BR>Mullenn: AAAAARRRGGHHHH!<BR><BR>Arielle: Suite never told you what happened to your mother<BR><BR>Mullenn: She told me enough!  She told me you killed her!<BR><BR>Arielle: No Mullenn.... I AM YOUR MOTHER! <BR><BR>Mullenn: No.  It can't be.  That's no true!  That's impossible!<BR><BR>Arielle: Search your feelings Mullenn, you know them to be true!<BR><BR>Mullenn:  NOOOOOOOOOOO! *thows himself off the waterfall to the rocks below*<BR><BR>Arielle:  All too easy...<BR><BR><BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Poor Little Mullen...he had such a peaceful, sleepy existance there on the desert planet of the Sinking Sands...../sigh.   ::narrows eyes::: and..Suite....shouldn't you be LEVELING, Missy?  /cracks whip.     Oh, also, please try to become at least a Champion, ASAP, ok?  Thank you so much <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>GoP...uuuuse the forrrrce....gettt a groooooooup!!!!!!!!   <BR></P>

[G]

Up to this point ive been super frugal and just have been using my conjured food =O  Was hoping to figure out tradeskills to make some food/water but ..................... too busy trying to figure out other stuff instead of gathering stuff to make food.Do most of you just buy your food/water from a vendor?<div></div>

[originator]

<DIV>no... no i dont lol. my alt is a provisonary so yeah i have leet food and drink lol. wootles. i use the wisdom/power regen drink and the agi/health regen foods. they help. most dont uset hem but i do since i have a provisionary.</DIV>

[Arielle Nightshade]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> originator wrote:<BR> <DIV>no... no i dont lol. my alt is a provisonary so yeah i have leet food and drink lol. wootles. i use the wisdom/power regen drink and the agi/health regen foods. they help. most dont uset hem but i do since i have a provisionary.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>One of my tradeskills is a Provisioner too...you can pretty much make your food for free if you gather the raws yourself, so it's a good trade to have.  I have alts that do other things, too, but Provisioner is kind of a necessary trade to have, IMO.    </P> <P>Here's one of those situations where you can make a harvesting agreement.  Many provisioners will trade you food for raws - usually 50% worth for the raws you give them, although it depends on the provisioner.  If you can't stand tradeskilling, ask in the crafting channel if anyone wants a harvester.  LOTS of provisioners (myself included, since my provisioning alt is a lvl 10 adventurer) would jump at the chance.   If you don't mind taking the harvesting risk on the PvP servers, they'd happily cook food for you that also helps level their tradeskill.  It's pretty much win/win.</P> <P>But short answer:  Try and get crafted food.  There are one or two quests that give good food too, but they are not repeatable (in most cases) and good food and drink are an on-going requirement.<BR></P>

[originator]

<DIV>yeah talk to moomba in common lands she gives u food but yeah... its not that great... but try to get provisionary made food... i know on venekor it doesnt sell well because well nobody buys food lol.</DIV>

[Nexiia]

<b><font color="#6633cc">Which is logically the most obvious option for the smart players, since all the cool kids dont need out of combat hp or power regen and buying any of it would be incredibly expensive! maybe put it on the xmas list!              ~</font></b><div></div>

[Arielle Nightshade]

<DIV>I have always had a provisioner as a crafter....and am constantly amazed when a lvl 70 says: "Food gives a stat bonus?!!?"  I'm like...uh.../leave.  LOL    Casters particularly say "Oh, I only need drinks..I don't ever eat food".  I'm like  Ok...w/e.   I like the extra bit of stats, personally.   </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I guess it makes 'em tougher to not need food or drink?   LOL.   </DIV>

[G]

Slowly but surely workin on my tradeskills.. up to lvl7! And workin on that AQ, up to the 4th Quest.Next up is to figure out how to get my 1st AA point!<div></div>

[Arielle Nightshade]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Gop wrote:<BR>Slowly but surely workin on my tradeskills.. up to lvl7! And workin on that AQ, up to the 4th Quest.<BR><BR>Next up is to figure out how to get my 1st AA point!<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Yay, grats!  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Double check and make sure you don't have your first AA point already.   Simply because if you have done AQ's to the 4th one, you have been a ton of places and killed a Named or two that might have dinged that point.    (Unless the AQ folks fall into that baffling category of Nameds that dont' give AA....which, I suppose, is possible....).  <BR></P> <P>I say this not to question your intelligence, but because I have wandered around with up to 3 unallocated points because we had been moving so fast I forgot I got them. (hm. Maybe we need to question MY intelligence...hm........./ponder)</P><p>Message Edited by Arielle Nightshade on <span class=date_text>10-09-2006</span> <span class=time_text>08:46 AM</span>

[G]

Other than Antonica only place I have been is FMG, TS and SH.  Its kinda funny when I group with other ppl and they start throwing out acronyms I have to tell them I have no clue what they are talking about.But doing the AQ in SH some ppl helped me and I got a Master Spell Book(Dirge I think) which they told me is worth a decent amount on the Broker.Luckily this one guy showed me how to get my house and helped me out a bunch with showing me how to get started on tradeskills cuz I was pretty lost.<div></div>

[Arielle Nightshade]

<DIV>LOL  about the acronyms for everything.   All my characters until this server have been Qeynos (which is why my friends and I went Freeport...to try something different).  Someone asked me to meet them in LS...I zoned into Lavastorm, which has always been MY "LS"...they meant Longshadow Alley.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[G]

Off Warden Topic... when I mouse over my AA it says requires KoS.  We bought EQ2 from direct2drive.com from the eq2 website.  Is there a way to tell what xpacks you have?<div></div>

[MullenSkywatcher]

Your Station Account details page should have all the expansions and adventure packs that are linked to your account.  In a month you'll get the EoF expansion which has everything except the adventure packs.  As a side note about acronyms, you get used to the eventually.  When I came back to EQ I had the hardest time figuring out what the hell people were talking about too! <div></div>

[G]

<div></div>Hrm, I dont see anything on my account page so I guess that means I have no xpacks.  =(Gues that means I need KoS, Adv 1,2,3 and DoF.... look at my acronym skills.Today I also took the boat for the first time to TS.  60silver just for a ticket!  I have like 4gs total. I got in a group in TS and I had to have them explain to me how to take the boat cuz someone took me to do the griffon quest in TS yesterday.<div></div><p>Message Edited by Gop on <span class=date_text>10-09-2006</span> <span class=time_text>02:42 PM</span>

[Arielle Nightshade]

<DIV>Yeah. but from TS you can get to Nek, EL, LS and EF!!!!  (LOL (teasing you) )  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>You do need the adventure packs.  You have to have KoS in order to start accruing AA...so you want to get at least that if you can. Splitpaw is a fun pack to have, and Bloodlines is vastly underrated - fun zone, good xp... a well-spent $4.99, IMO.</DIV>

[Dragonreal]

I would wait to get the xpacks if I were him/her... even kos because at the lower lvls, aaxp comes fairly slowly aside from the first point (and our starter abil, while nice, isn't really a make or break you thing), but if s/he waits to get the xpacks, they'll come bundled with eof for like 40 bucks.<div></div>

[originator]

Yeah if you're wanting your first aa point i hope you have kos or it is never going to happen lol.

[G]

s no way I can affor to buy any Adept I spells.... I could afford some Apprentice IV versions.. should I upgrade to those if they are available on the broker?<div></div>

[Arielle Nightshade]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Gop wrote:<BR>s no way I can affor to buy any Adept I spells.... I could afford some Apprentice IV versions.. should I upgrade to those if they are available on the broker?<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Yes.  Again...find a sage that will trade you spells for harvests.  That is a good way to afford upgrades. Upgrade your spells the best you can...if that's AppIV, then definitely..just upgrade when you can.  Harvest for rares too and make that arrangement with a sage (or level one yourself...you can have a crafter that never adventures).<BR>

[G]

<div></div>So I harvested some rares today for the <font size="2">Tier 2 (Level 10-19)  Rough Coral or </font><font size="2">Silver Cluster.. any suggestions on which spells to upgrade? (I picked the 2 healing spells at 12 and 24 for my masters)</font><div></div><p>Message Edited by Gop on <span class=date_text>10-10-2006</span> <span class=time_text>09:04 AM</span>

[Jayad]

<P>It depends on if you group, solo, or are pvp, but for PVE group warden probably:</P> <OL> <LI>The single HOT</LI> <LI>The group HOT</LI> <LI>The single (big) direct heal</LI> <LI>Your debuff/dot & nuke</LI> <LI>Group mitigation buff</LI> <LI>Shapechange (for mitigation)</LI></OL> <P>If you have M2 then you don't need to upgrade the others.  I would also have a bias towards upgrading your more recent spells.  A spell from 7 levels ago isn't going to be around nearly as long.</P>

[G]

So I started to look into crafted armor and I about lvl 32 so I was going to get the Tailored Woven Engraved Set made.For a helm I was going to do the quest from the Warden FAQ:Level 30+ Enchanted Lands, Deputy Nettlebrine on the steps down from the dock.   <a href="http://eq2.ogaming.com/db/quests/StartofSomethingBig.php" target="_blank">http://eq2.ogaming.com/db/quests/StartofSomethingBig.php</a>The difficulty is there isnt a good db with items from tradeskills, EQTraders is ok.Any suggestions on crafted jewelery around lvl32 I can look into?  Also looking at crafted jewelery they all seem to have no resists... do you prefer going to do quests for jewelery with resists or just go with crafted?Thanks<div></div>

[originator]

Lucky you. I cant seem to harvest coral for [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />.

[Arielle Nightshade]

<DIV>Gop you are blowing me away with your attention to detail for finding this stuff out <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'd Farm Nek Castle and kill Nameds in zek for the Ring of the Warmaster - +9 str, +8 STA, +7 Wis, 33 health, 39 power, 105 disease, 140 heat, 140 mental,   wearable at 30, good till about 50 (seriously).    I got server discovery of it Once Upon a Time when I was just a kid /tear.    It dropped off of Catapult Operators in the front yard in Zek...I didn't even know what a master chest was, or what Fabled meant.....<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  (how quickly we go from Innocent to Loot hore, huh?  LOL) </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>It remains my favorite - my first fabled, first master chest, first discovery.....I still have it <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[MullenSkywatcher]

You can try this site for equipment searches  <font color="#ffff00"><a href="http://www.eq2idb.com/index.php" target=_blank>http://www.eq2idb.com/index.php </a> <font color="#ffffff">Unfortunately, you cant do a generic search for all jewelry, but you can do ring, wrist, neck, etc.  Also give mob drop information.  There is an ingame version that you can download, but I've just used the web based search.  Good site.</font> </font><div></div>

[MullenSkywatcher]

I think the warden FAQ is wrong, and in tier 2 you can only use the rough coral for the adept3 recipies.  I'm at work now and cant confirm in game, but if I'm reading EQ2 traders corner correctly, it got changed somewhere along the line (prolly when rare loams were introduced).  I'll confirm when I get home.  Hopefully no one was too affected by this, but if you bought a whole bunch of silver clusters off the broker because they were cheaper than corals, I do certainly apologize.  <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <div></div>

[G]

Well went harvesting today in EL.. and was running for my life most the time from some big eyeballs.  But I did get one Rough Opal!Yea I like to read a lot of stuff so hopefully I dont waste my time or money on stuff that I dont need or need to be doing.<div></div>

[Arielle Nightshade]

<DIV>Grats on the rare! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  I love getting rares <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Depending on how you are doing with your other spells, I might consider spending that opal on Spirit of the Bat.  It's the spell that comes from the Bloodlines adventure pack, but you don't have to have it to get it.   </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The spell increases agi by 18.4,  your power pool by 98, and then has an in-combat power regen of 9.4 per tick.  It's one I use all the time, either on myself or on an agi-based class (like scout...) or a brawler (who benefits greatly from the agi buff)  to increase thier power pool and in combat regen.    If you only have one opal, that's the one tier 4 spell you will use till 70.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Or you could blow it on a heal ::grin:::</DIV>

[originator]

<DIV>from  a pvp stand point blow it on the heals! or get an adept 3 version of a nuke</DIV>

[G]

To this point my PvP XP has been getting jumped harvesting.  Me standing there.. pop a hp/power regen totem and just heal myself till they run out of power while I spam /dance.  Then start attacking and then they run while resisting my App I nukes and root.So I was going to use the rare on my lvl35 root when I get there.  Lvl31 now.  But Ill look into that spell you where talking about.<div></div>

[originator]

<DIV>just buy adept versions of your spells. they're not that expensive as other classes</DIV>

[Arielle Nightshade]

<DIV>....and get a group!!!!     PvPing solo is fine, if you like it, but a group is where PvP is really a blast - especially for a Warden.</DIV>

[G]

<div></div>Well I do group for xp and a few times I have went in a preformed PvP group.  But 90% of the PvP I encounter is when I am out harvesting solo.  I think I harvest 75% of the time I play cuz I am broke and need rares to make gear/spells or try to sell.  I think I have only received about 2-4 rares(ones that count... not including the flowers/teeth that i seem to get all the time!!!!!!)I also just joined a guild today!  So I am working on 2 heritage quests to start working on my SP to buy a mount someday!Hahahaha.. I did waste 12g today on the coins for the gargol illusion.  I just had to have it once I saw it!I dunno some of the Adept I spells always seem to be overpriced on the broker.I have an off topic question.. I read an AA FAQ but Im kinda confused.Do you get AA XP for ANY non-repeatable quest?<div></div><p>Message Edited by Gop on <span class=date_text>10-15-2006</span> <span class=time_text>06:25 PM</span>

[originator]

erm u wasted 12 g on what lol?... id be wasting gold on adept spells. saving for your jewerly, and trying to get master crafted armor imo. [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] what am i talking about i dont even have mastercrafted armor, but thats because its all pvp fabled armor <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div>