Help Me Pick

[Aekisu]

I spend the majority of my time grouped for XP on a PvP server. Should I select:Nature's EmbraceProtection of the Season'sWarden of the Forestas my specialized training?

[nierika]

<P>the heal, the heal, the heal... the heal?  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>all other factors being equal (assuming they're all the same level ie adp3), i'd choose nature's embrace hands down.  the extra few points on the buffs aren't really going to make or break anything, but the extra few points on the heal might.  my second choice would be protection of the seasons, since you're mostly grouped and not solo - the group mitigation isn't too shabby.</P> <P> </P>

[Timber13]

    I'd take Nature's Embrace, you rolled a healer and healers should perfectionate what they are good in, healing <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Protection of the Season should be upgraded to adept3 thought and Warden of the Forest is good if you are a big solo player, but then I wonder if it's worth to spend that much gold on such a spell that you will use only a few days till you get your upgraded version. <div></div>

[Aekisu]

Ah yes, a healer. I've tried many classes since bringing EQ1 online but I keep coming back to a healer. Must be in the genes.Being a healer in PvP group sucks unless you are in one of those rare groups where every one watches out for each other. I find though that in most cases it's every person for himself and the cloth and leather wearers are the first ones to fall.I was looking at the mit PotS & WotF brings, imagining myself surviving the trashing I received by an unexpected gankingYour reminder that I'm a healer put my thinking back on track.Thanks for the response.<p>Message Edited by Aekisu on <span class=date_text>09-05-2006</span> <span class=time_text>10:35 AM</span>

[Arielle Nightshade]

<DIV>70 PvP Warden here...Dreadnaught some days, Champion others.   </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'd pick Warden of the Forest.   You can Adept 3 your heals and they will be quite functional.  Indeed, you are a healer...but WotF on top of mastercrafted armor gives you near- plate mitigation.   If you are dead, it doesn't matter what heals you have mastered.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Unless you are a Qeynosian Warden...then I say..pick the heal.  ::grin::</DIV> <P><SPAN class=time_text></SPAN> </P><p>Message Edited by Arielle Nightshade on <span class=date_text>09-05-2006</span> <span class=time_text>12:47 PM</span>

[nierika]

<DIV>I was going to add a disclaimer that I don't do PvP (although I'd like to... I hate getting smacked in the Peat Bog, though, and I don't have the patience to level after getting killed 5 times in a row) so the WotF might have been a better choice simply FOR the mitigation bonus.   What the difference between M2 Protection of the Seasons mit bonus over Warden of the Forest?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Aekisu]

<blockquote><hr>Arielle Nightshade wrote:<div></div><div></div><div></div><div>70 PvP Warden here...Dreadnaught some days, Champion others.  </div><div> </div><div>I'd pick Warden of the Forest.   You can Adept 3 your heals and they will be quite functional.  Indeed, you are a healer...but WotF on top of mastercrafted armor gives you near- plate mitigation.   If you are dead, it doesn't matter what heals you have mastered. </div><div> </div><div>Unless you are a Qeynosian Warden...then I say..pick the heal.  ::grin::</div><p><span class="time_text"></span> </p><p>Message Edited by Arielle Nightshade on <span class="date_text">09-05-2006</span><span class="time_text">12:47 PM</span></p><hr></blockquote>Interesting since my first thought was to pick WotF as my specialized training.And, just to set the record straight, Q's are only good for one thing. Fertilizer to make the grass grow greener around Freeport. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Warden of the ForestAppIFocus 13.5Phy mitigation 150MasterFocus 25Phy Mitigation 281Protection of the SeasonsAdaptMagic mit 99Phy mit 297MasterMagic mit 136Phy mit 408<p>Message Edited by Aekisu on <span class=date_text>09-05-2006</span> <span class=time_text>04:45 PM</span>

[Bong_water]

<blockquote><hr>Aekisu wrote:I spend the majority of my time grouped for XP on a PvP server. Should I select:<hr></blockquote>Move to a PvE server<div></div>

[Arielle Nightshade]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Aekisu wrote:<BR><BR>...And, just to set the record straight, Q's are only good for one thing. Fertilizer to make the grass grow greener around Freeport. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR><BR> <P><BR>  <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>:: pours a goblet of Faydwer ...looted from a dead Koada'dal, salutes the new Warden::::   That's what I like to hear!   Well met  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR><p>Message Edited by Arielle Nightshade on <span class=date_text>09-06-2006</span> <span class=time_text>10:42 AM</span>

[Arielle Nightshade]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> nierika wrote:<BR> <DIV>I was going to add a disclaimer that I don't do PvP (although I'd like to... I hate getting smacked in the Peat Bog, though, and I don't have the patience to level after getting killed 5 times in a row) so the WotF might have been a better choice simply FOR the mitigation bonus.   What the difference between M2 Protection of the Seasons mit bonus over Warden of the Forest?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Running a VERY close second to the Mit of WotF is the Focus...in Master 2, it's like...27 or 28 (at that level).   Protection of the Seasons offers mit, as well, but when you are the Main Target in many PvP fights, that focus is very handy.    A stunned or interrupted healer is not healing.   Again - you can have all the mastered heals you want, but if you can't cast them - it doesn't matter.</P> <P>If killed, cast wolf first, buff the rest of the stuff as you can (since we have eleventy billion buffs that are needed ...both self and group...we can eat through the immunity timer just buffing) - and you have at least enough personal protection to get back to your group and/or to safety.  <BR></P><p>Message Edited by Arielle Nightshade on <span class=date_text>09-06-2006</span> <span class=time_text>01:48 PM</span>

[Aekisu]

<blockquote><hr>Bong_water wrote:<blockquote><hr>Aekisu wrote:I spend the majority of my time grouped for XP on a PvP server. Should I select:<hr></blockquote>Move to a PvE server<div></div><hr></blockquote>Thanks for the great adviseI found it easier to;Pick Warden of the Forest as a Master IIUpgrade Protection of the Seasons to Master IUpgrade Natures Embrace to Master IMitigation is now 1100+ and a heal that packs a punch<p><p>Message Edited by Aekisu on <span class=date_text>09-06-2006</span> <span class=time_text>03:53 PM</span>

[Arielle Nightshade]

<DIV>^ ^ ^    :: psst:::  group with this guy  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[Spag]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Arielle Nightshade wrote:<BR> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Unless you are a Qeynosian Warden...then I say..pick the heal.  ::grin::</DIV> <P></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Awe, come on now, where's the love? <P>Wish we would have ended up on the same PvP server, it could have been interesting now that I have betrayed  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>Maybe I should roll yet another warden  :smileywink:</P><p>Message Edited by Handsoff on <span class=date_text>09-07-2006</span> <span class=time_text>01:43 PM</span>

[Arielle Nightshade]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Handsoff wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Arielle Nightshade wrote:<BR> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Unless you are a Qeynosian Warden...then I say..pick the heal.  ::grin::</DIV> <P></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Awe, come on now, where's the love? <P>Wish we would have ended up on the same PvP server, it could have been interesting now that I have betrayed  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>Maybe I should roll yet another warden  :smileywink:</P> <P>Message Edited by Handsoff on <SPAN class=date_text>09-07-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>01:43 PM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>That would bring your total to ...400 Wardens played to date??  LOL...</P> <P>I would feel very bad about killing you.      </P> <P> </P> <P> </P> <P>For a second.</P> <P> </P> <P><BR> </P>

[Tevilspek]

<div><blockquote><hr>Bong_water wrote:<blockquote><hr>Aekisu wrote:I spend the majority of my time grouped for XP on a PvP server. Should I select:<hr></blockquote>Move to a PvE server<div></div><hr></blockquote>Thankyou for this stella contribution to the discussion, as we all know we shouldn't group on a PvP server... Especially as a Healer.. o.O. hehe.Thankyou fellow Wardens for the very good points raised.I'd have just gone ahead and got the better heal without thinking about it before, but am thinking about it now.. (after some guy was advertising the M1 Heal for 35g last night >.&lt<img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />.Does a +10(?) Focus increase really help that much to stop interupts etc? Or is it one of those 1 in a 100 chance things? As in, would one notice a decent improvement when getting beat on in PvP between an Ad3 or M1 version and the M2 one - adding into that the extra Mit - or would the extra HP from the heal be more of a lifesaver...I thought I'd made up my mind, just dunno now! <span>:smileyvery-happy:</span></div>

[Spag]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Arielle Nightshade wrote:<BR> <BR> <P>That would bring your total to ...400 Wardens played to date??  LOL...</P> <P>I would feel very bad about killing you.      </P> <P>For a second.</P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Yeah if I were to roll another that would be #5, almost considering it now.