G1 Wardens

[mikemcmodmi]

<DIV>Heya,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I was on another thread and was wondering if people do things differently so thought I'd ask.  In our raids I'm in G1 and I'm the curer (if there's a druid in G1).  Do you guys also take the job of curing the MT?  I see it as the only upside there is of having no debuffs, we make great curers.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Another question.  Do you G1 Wardens use your group hot?  I never do unless we're 2 tanking and short healers.  Then I know there might be consistent large amounts of damage incoming.  Otherwise never.  It's not mana efficient plus I can get caught up in the 3 sec cast time and miss a cure.  Do you guys do things the same way?</DIV>

[Barand]

Same here for 2 points <div></div>

[gita]

me in G1 and not the "designated" curer.  The teory says yes but.. in my G1 group its the templar who get the cures land first around 80% times. Its really unbeliable saw how FAST that "player" cures. Well its really shocking saw our templar curing lol, not gonna give name but surname its L'cure <span>:smileyvery-happy:</span> Us feel more safe if the 3 healers on G1 do cures as needed, but normally its the templar cure the one who lands first. If i see two cures on MT ill go for the second one cause if go for the 1st one i waste a spell cast for sure. As for the use of group regen i use almost "all the time" i know, i waste heal power, but i prefer to stack more regen on MT and cover/anticipate the AEs who eat, and also use Master 1 from previous tier and not the t7 one, to save power.  C'ant do that (spam group regen) on the tier7 one, cause got oop to fast.<div></div>

[myount]

<P>G1 and designated curer.  The other healers throw a cure if I am in the middle of casting a group HoT or Big Heal, but for zones that mit debuff i constantly cast cures to keep it off the MT.</P> <P> </P>

[MysidiaDrakkenbane]

<P>I'm in G1 frequently and I'm not the main curer, either. Usually in G1: Guardian, Templar, Mystic, Warden, Dirge (or Conj), and Pally. (I say Dirge or Conj, because we've been known to switch out.)</P> <P>My job is to help keep MT/MA standing upright at all costs. I have never been the main healer in G1 and it'd be a little scary considering that I'm level 65 and he's 70.</P>

[Unmask]

<P>I'm usually in MT group but not designated curer.  I generally don't think it's a good idea for wardens to be designated curers personally as we have no upfront healing.</P> <P>Our MT group will usually be Guard, Templar, Dirge, Warden, Dirge and Conj but we switch out as needed.  Defiler and templar lay on their group specials and their slow casting directs are not worthwhilke to cast in MT group so they are not going to be spamming heals the way a warden will.  So I'd think they are better off with the cures. But it's very situational.</P> <P>The only time we really designate a curer anyway is for those mobs that do the really nasty effects (fear, stun, debilitate, and worse).  It'd be nice if we could cure or even dispel charm though.</P>

[xenocyst]

<div></div>We do not use a set curer in our group setup, generally everyone spams cures when they have a chance. If inc damage is low and being soaked up by wards and reactives I end up curing a lot, if it's higher and I'm spamming directs then others pick it up while reactives or wards refresh. Having that sort of flexibility is nice although it occasionally results in no one doing it because we're all busy <span>:smileyvery-happy:</span> In some cases we actually have people outside g1 spamming trauma cures for debilitate and similar type mobs.In terms of the group HoT -- I often stack it up on pull with the single HoT because I'm the only healer that can <b>safely </b>pre-heal. Other than that I generally don't use it unless the incoming damage is so high that all my other timers are down. There are a few situations where a mob isn't debuffed and I end up casting it but it's pretty unusual.Edit: Ugh charm, I'd settle for not getting stuck in combat when the mob dies <span>:smileymad:</span><div></div><p>Message Edited by xenocyst on <span class=date_text>05-11-2006</span> <span class=time_text>11:00 AM</span>

[Unmask]

The good thing about a guardian as MT is that he's not going to hurt anyone if he gets charmed. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Wabit]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Unmasked wrote:<BR> The good thing about a guardian as MT is that he's not going to hurt anyone if he gets charmed. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>i think i'll designate the warden to be the group curer now...

[NimSul]

<P>Hehe you definitly want the monk to be charmed, ours is like a super ninja monk. Hes had several cases of:</P> <P>"YOU try to crush Tank but YOU block"</P> <P>Imagine how that must be :smileyvery-happy:</P>

[mikemcmodmi]

<P>Hum, so the druid isn't always the cure monitor.  I bet that if it's a 'everyone picks it up' then really someone in G1 is stepping up and doing it.  They just haven't been assigned the role and I bet if you ask the other G1 healers you'll find out who.  It'll be the person that when the big damage spike comes in they cure before heal.</P> <P>Interesting, I like how hearing other people do stuff.  Like when a Warden said she/he hit 900 dps in a raid.  Mind blowing.  I'd never thought of anyone else doing cure monitoring and surprised as well.</P>

[Wabit]

as MT i'll ask alot of times what effect is being cured off me i /g...  it does 2 things, shows what effects are on me, and whos curing them...

[xenocyst]

<div><blockquote><hr>mikemcmodmike wrote:<div></div> <p>Hum, so the druid isn't always the cure monitor.  I bet that if it's a 'everyone picks it up' then really someone in G1 is stepping up and doing it.  They just haven't been assigned the role and I bet if you ask the other G1 healers you'll find out who.  It'll be the person that when the big damage spike comes in they cure before heal.</p> <p>Interesting, I like how hearing other people do stuff.  Like when a Warden said she/he hit 900 dps in a raid.  Mind blowing.  I'd never thought of anyone else doing cure monitoring and surprised as well.</p><hr></blockquote>Yea that's what I said. There are times when each person is more free to cure so if you have good healers you can take advantage.Low damage = no regens = me curingHigh damage = spamming directs and regens = others curing as reactives or wards refresh.The end result is that I can heal properly without potentially sacrificing time on the next cure which makes me more effective. If I see a damage spike and I absolutely have to not heal so that I can get a cure off then a lot of my potential is wasted.I'd have to ask the other people in g1 but I suspect the templar is the other main curer as a shammy has more to worry about in terms of maintaining debuffs.</div>

[Sorano]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> xenocyst wrote:<BR> <DIV><BR>I'd have to ask the other people in g1 but I suspect the templar is the other main curer as a shammy has more to worry about in terms of maintaining debuffs.<BR></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Exactly how we do it. The templar cures, the shammy debuffs and I heal. Works well for us. <BR>

[Soliestra]

<DIV>Me and the templar in group typically divide the cures, i take elemental and trauma and he does arcane and nox.....that way no one is overwhelmed when there are too many.....of course if there is more than one, we cover down....</DIV>