Serious buff issue, SOE please look into.

[Timber13]

<div></div><div>Yesterday we tried a couple Tier 7 raids, earlier that week I bought the Protection of the Oak master for the nice extra mitigation that goes on the main tank.</div><div>Once in the main tank group, there was no difference with his mitigation when my spell was up, our defiler cancelled his mitigation buff and the group had 160 more mitigation. There is a serious stacking issue with our spell, a master mitigation buff should overscribe an adept3 mitigation buff and not the way arround. Please SOE fix this issue and here are some screens with the proof. First picture is the one with all buffs up, templar, defiler and warden one. Second picture is the one with only Warden and Templar buff up. At the right you can see which buffs are up.</div><div> </div><div><div>EDIT:</div><div>The defiler in that group had his Tier 5 spell as master I, so the bug most likely will be that EQ2 see his T5 master one and my T7 master one as the same quality, if SOE fix this the problem will most likely be solved.</div></div><div> </div><div> </div><div><img src="http://users.pandora.be/damme/without.JPG"></div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><div><img src="http://users.pandora.be/damme/with.JPG"></div><div> </div><p>Message Edited by Timber13 on <span class="date_text">03-07-2006</span><span class="time_text">04:17 AM</span></p>

[Timber13]

<div>Meh guess no wardens care about this bug /sad :smileysad:</div><div>Anyway it won't let me stop by saying that SOE still hasn't fixed this spell in <a target="_blank" href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=tup&message.id=111">http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=tup&message.id=111</a></div><div>This bug also seems to happen with fury T5 master mitigation buff, don't have ss collected for this one cause will get lost in the mass anyway.</div><div>Hope more reply as they ding and discover this very annoying bug special in raids.</div>

[slayerwarrior]

<div></div>yea not to many care :smileysad: sad but true

[Rappy]

I havent been able to confirm this myself, that said...  Probably best on the combat and spells discussion forum mate.. the devs just dont look here <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div>

[Barand]

thanks for reporting this, i have done the testing with a mystic that haden't upgrade it spell and his buff was overwriting mine. We loose 200 mitigation that way.<div></div>

[Oakum]

<div>We care, the only thing that may make this be discounted as a  major issue for some is that its brought up as a raid issue which is a small minority of all players. Very vocal minority but a minority. If it was said as simply, when grouped with anothor healer our buffs superior buffs are being blocked by theirs when its two tiers lower then it might be getting more attention. The start of the post can make it seem like its only a "raider" concern when its not.</div><div> </div>

[iceriven2]

<div></div>I care but this is something they known about since way before the combat changes.  I trio'd a lot with a zerker and mystic way back when then game was around 4 months.   Mystic buff always over rided my wardens mitigation buff. Even then.

[mindygoth]

<div></div><p>Well I for one care - alot.</p><p> </p><p>I am getting so sick and tired of buffs etc not stacking with other classes, but they never seem to do anything about it.  The only thing that makes even a little bit of sense to not allow to stack is stuff from the same class - ie. Warden plus Warden.  Otherwise what's the point of filling a raid up with a nice range of classes to get the best benefit from a wide range of buffs, when you get random stuff from completely different classes cancelling out your buffs....  I've even seen half a buff get cancelled - eg. if I have something that increases physical mit and magical mit, then the physical portion of the buff gets cancelled, but the magical stays on, when I was grouped with a mystic.</p><p> </p><p>We raided a T7 zone the other night.  I was the only Warden in the raid, and there was a couple of Furys who were higher lvl than me - I was down to 2 single target heals I could use, with my main one constantly coming up "Would not take effect" because the higher lvl Fury had something that clashed - even though they weren't in my group in the raid.  I got soo frustrated, as the raid leader is shouting "spam those heals!" and I'm sitting there waiting for one of my other 2 heals to re-pop, meanwhile watching the MT's health disappear through the floor.  I felt seriously useless and ready to just give up.</p><p> </p><p>But we just keep getting told it's "working as intended".  Even though I can remember the update notes from a live update way back that said even spells from the same class should stack, complete with a described example of how it would work.  But it has never worked that way at all.</p><p> </p><p>I think people are just weary of complaining and getting nowhere.</p><p> </p><p>Faeth, 66 Warden, Kithicor</p>

[Naelora]

<div></div><font size="2">The Fury heal clashing with our Greater Chloroplast line is the Greater Bloodflow line.  I have been /bug-ing this for months to no avail.  So Wardens, I have a charge for you: /bug the heck out of it until SOE fixes it.</font><div></div><p>Message Edited by Naelora on <span class="date_text">03-12-2006</span><span class="time_text">02:04 PM</span></p>

[Kyralis]

Unfortunately, they're not going to fix the heal issue because they don't feel that it's broken; the non-stacking is "working as intended" for them...<div></div>

[Naelora]

<font size="2">How on Norrath's green grounds is that "working as intended" when the intent was for no heals to have stacking issues (or was I misreading that update long ago)?</font><div></div>

[Supernova17]

<span><blockquote><hr>Naelora wrote:<font size="2">How on Norrath's green grounds is that "working as intended" when the intent was for no heals to have stacking issues (or was I misreading that update long ago)?</font><div></div><hr></blockquote>Cleric and Shaman single target Reactives and Wards haven't stacked since Live Update 13 and this was an intended change, so it would follow that Druid single target regens don't stack either.And that Templar is raiding with an Adept1 HP and Mitigation buff (Gallantry).....should be kicked!!! <span>:smileytongue:</span></span><div></div>

[Vaylan77]

<div></div>i often wandered if it works correctly when i for example group with another warden and i have the master spell and he only the adept one. both symbols apear on my list, so both are active what is stupid. i never checked though which one (of course it must be the higher one) is really active.

[DionysosTom]

<div>this bug is ingame for a long time now</div><div> </div><div>I ve seen this bug in T5 before DOF release.</div><div> </div><div> </div><div>Well I ve made  at that time a report of a bug and  there was a discussion on that bug but no devs  took part of it.</div><div> </div><div> </div><div>I forgetabout it for several months even if I think it was still there, and  1 month ago I ve seen once more that bug :/</div><div> </div><div> </div><div>YOu need to be carefoul on who is doing the buff and in which order to be sure to have all the buff with the correcxt value :p</div><div> </div><div>That s totally crazy I agree but It s SOE ^^</div><div> </div><div>And you must know that moving  and   beeing out of range  of buff will prolly generate once more the same bug :/</div><div> </div><div> </div><div>TOmas</div>