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Attryn
01-23-2006, 03:30 PM
<div>As Wardens, how do you all find healing in the 50s?  I've played a Fury to 60, and my Warden is now 44.  So far I love my Warden; my buffs are excellent, in many ways better than those of my Fury, I like the quick casting nukes, the numbing spores line, etc.  The only real concern I have is this: How am I going to find healing in the 50s?</div><div> </div><div>As a Fury, I find that I use my ancient heals quite often.  Back Into the Fray can be hard to time properly, but can provide a very nice boost when you get behind.  Hibernation I generally use just prior to a pull and find that the extra heal it puts out on the group can make a real difference, and can give me time to cure some of the effects (usually a stifle) that hits the tank early in the fight.</div><div> </div><div>I've looked at the Warden heals 50+ and I'm not seeing much that I don't already have.  Obviously on non-epic mobs, the damage mitigation from the Duststorm line will likely make a difference, but I'm not seeing anything that'll really help me deal with those flurrys and spells.  I see that at 58 we get a tree/pet heal, but don't know how much that heals for, I don't suspect it's significant.  So tell me, have I just become a lazy healer with my Fury, leaning on those ancient spells?  Or are there healing stategies out there to discover in the Warden's spell line that I haven't seen yet?</div><div> </div><div>Thanks in advance.</div>

Nebbeny
01-23-2006, 03:48 PM
<div></div><p>I have no problem healing in the 50's whatsoever, the tree isn't significant, but it does help you be lazy <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> at 56+ i was able to keep a 60 swashy up fighting in a trio with a wizzy in silent city, mobs just weren't popping fast enough for us :smileyvery-happy: , I picked single target regen at m2, and have group regen at m1, which helps alot.  Till i got to 60, my 46 big heal was adept3 and healed fine till it was replaced at 60.</p><p>So yeah, in my opinion your just lazy in leaning on your ancient spells and wardens heal fine using the spells we get, just keep them at adept1+ and use duststorm, with our power we can keep it up in a normal group with no problem</p>

Larsbohnstedt
01-23-2006, 05:58 PM
<div></div><div></div><p>As someone who raids regularly, I can say that a 60 Warden's a very effective healer, most specifically in raids where there's already plenty of people with those big direct heals.</p><p>What I bring to the raid is, first and foremost, the biggest healer power pool and the very useful HoT-spell  Wild Growth (Master II version).  With or without power-regen buffs, this alone keeps me right up there with the other healer classes (we parse all numbers after each raid). What makes me no. 2 or No. 3 in total heals is the Tree, direct heals and our spores. I also, as opposed to some other healers, got time to toss in a wolf pack for damage every now and then. And it never hurts to cast those death-prevention spells if you're in the MT group.</p><p>We're not as 'flashy' as most.. in fact, I can fully understand why Furies & Inquisitors seem to be so popular on LDL these days. But at the end of the day, when the parser shows that I've healed for 550k+ in Gates whereas almost everybody else healed for less than 450, not only I but others as well will know that a well-played Warden is just as capable a healer as everybody else.</p><p>Oh, and we kick [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] in duels <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Message Edited by Larsbohnstedt on <span class="date_text">01-23-2006</span><span class="time_text">05:00 AM</span></p>

Dragonreal
01-23-2006, 08:55 PM
<div>The reason you as a fury lean on your ancient spells is because you have to, plain and simple; that's why you got what you got. Wardens don't get spells like that because we don't need the extra healing power; we have what we need in our normal spell lines, so as long you keep duststorm up (hell don't even need it 100% of the time; I used to just cast it when things started getting rough) you'll be fine.</div>

Mor
01-23-2006, 09:51 PM
Actually, as a Fury you get pretty much the same bread and butter spells we do plus Hibernation and Back Into the Fray.    We did get the short end of the stick on the 50-60 spells.  That said we can still keep a group healed and, if you're the designated regen-caster for your raid, keep up with heals on the MT as well. The tree is nice -- and in the right situation can heal for a <i>very</i> significant amount.  But AoE's kill it very easily.   And it appears to be absorbing wards, which is counterproductive to say the least.<div></div>

Unmask
01-25-2006, 02:34 AM
<div></div><p>I generally thought that hibernation is a reasonable trade off with the tree (extra group hot vs extra grp heal) - iirc one has a 10s delay and the other can be killed so both have their downsides.</p><p>It's the tradeoff between back into the fray and tunare's watch that I felt we got somewhat shafted on (I bought m1 of tunare's watch on the fence for around 4p - listed for 2.5p i think - and received a tell later saying something to the effect of "omgthankyouthankyouthankyou&quot<img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>