Dorteler

[Tuved2]

<DIV>Dorteler plz go away, you're really an annoying [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot].</DIV>

[Faithes]

Uhh...no comment. Oh and don't be rude! =(. <div></div>

[Gerrie]

only been reading here for 3days and already understand why they call turved a boardtroll <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Tuved2]

When have I ever not been an advocate for the warden class? When have I ever not wanted the best for Wardens? I'm very heated in my defense of wardens and very upset when our class is wronged. If that makes me a troll then so be it.

[netswine]

<span><blockquote><hr>Tuved2 wrote:<div>Dorteler plz go away, you're really an annoying [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot].</div><hr></blockquote> While he is at it, please let him take Especial with him. Every once in a while a forum will be plagued by fervent opponents to reason.  These opponents, perhaps unwittingly, are falling to the old logical fallacy of argumentum ad ignorantiam (argument from ignorance) to convey their opinions (X does not affect me, therefore it is untrue).</span><div></div>

[arielelf]

<div></div><div></div>Tuved...that's just plain rude.  Everyone has a right to their opinion. Even you!  I think you just enjoy the attention so you post rediculous things like this thread just to get people stirred up say to hey look at Tuved he's being a total [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot] again!  What a surprise.  Just when you think people are starting to forget about you, you gotta show back up and say woo hoo, I'm still here. Everyone look at me!  I mean come on what other reason is there for such a stupid post as this.  Sheese. So, in reality I'm playing into it!  I'm a dumb [expletive ninja'd by Faarbot], but I just can't stand it when people are rude for no apparent reason other then to stroke their own ego. <div></div><p>Message Edited by arielelf on <span class="date_text">10-02-2005</span> <span class="time_text">10:01 PM</span></p><p>Message Edited by arielelf on <span class=date_text>10-02-2005</span> <span class=time_text>10:03 PM</span>

[Tuved2]

<DIV>There are simply times when rude is warented.</DIV>

[Ravenmi]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Tuved2 wrote:<BR> <DIV>There are simply times when rude is warented.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>I've seen maybe 2 or 3 posts by you so far that werent' either ignorant and uncalled for, flat out rude, or an obvious troll post to get a reaction.  This doesn't even confine itself to our boards sadly, he's a troll on other people's boards as well.</P> <P>If the Wardens could benefit from any one person leaving it would be Tuved, who supposedly was soo upset he was quitting, of course he never actually did.  Was just another one of his ploys to be the center of attention I'm sure.  </P> <P>Other people on these boards are at least capable of working or dealing with each other.  I sure don't always agree with everyone here but at least its mostly civil and we can see each others points.</P> <P>Hopefully this stupid thread will get Deleted soon.</P> <p>Message Edited by Ravenmist on <span class=date_text>10-03-2005</span> <span class=time_text>08:48 AM</span>

[Tuved2]

Your responses have got to be some of the most entertaining I've ever seen Raven.

[DresdenMalicaster]

<span><blockquote><hr>Ravenmist wrote:<div></div> <blockquote> <hr> Tuved2 wrote: <div>There are simply times when rude is warented.</div> <hr> </blockquote> <p>I've seen maybe 2 or 3 posts by you so far that werent' either ignorant and uncalled for, flat out rude, or an obvious troll post to get a reaction.  This doesn't even confine itself to our boards sadly, he's a troll on other people's boards as well.</p> <p>If the Wardens could benefit from any one person leaving it would be Tuved, who supposedly was soo upset he was quitting, of course he never actually did.  Was just another one of his ploys to be the center of attention I'm sure.  </p> <p>Other people on these boards are at least capable of working or dealing with each other.  I sure don't always agree with everyone here but at least its mostly civil and we can see each others points.</p> <p>Hopefully this stupid thread will get Deleted soon.</p> <div></div><p>Message Edited by Ravenmist on <span class="date_text">10-03-2005</span> <span class="time_text">08:48 AM</span></p><hr></blockquote>Every board needs a resident troll. To the issue, our ability to respond to burst damage is definitely lacking. A 1-1.2k heal on even a 10sec shared timer with VR would go a long way to addressing that issue. We just need 1 big heal.... thats all I would like to see. I like our buffs and the stacking regens (once they work with other classes) are a definite improvement for wardens over what we had pre-combat changes.... we just need that 1 big heal and we'll be set. There is no worse feeling as a healer than seeing the MT sitting in the orange and you can do absolutely nothing about it except rely on the other healers or pray the MT dodges/parries/resists/etc that next big blow. As far as Dorteler goes, I play on Najena with him. He's in one of the most respected guilds, he clearly knows what he's doing and I respect his opinion a great deal. I disagree with him on this issue a bit, but by no means should he stop posting here. When I think of my servers premier Wardens, his name is at or near the very top of that list.</span><div></div>

[Kyralis]

I have respect for Dorteler, though I disagree with him on this issue. At least his posts basically boil down to "give me some concrete evidence", which is an opinion that I can *very* much agree with- rather than the empty-headed shouting that goes on in most of the "omg we sukzors" and "learn to play your class, n00b" camps. I like to think that I've provided at least some evidence for why a healing imbalance really does exist, so hopefully he'll come around. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <div></div>

[Zel]

To be in the high end Guild doesnt prevent of any damned stupidities...Im in the First Raid Guild on Runnyeye, and my guildies and me concluded a thing after somes experiences : Warden is broken ATM for burst Damage Healing. A Templar/Fury/Inqui/Mystic/Defiler can do a job (in Healing) that a warden cant do it... SoE plz Fixes our Stacking isssues (Warden/Warden and Warden/Others) and Tweaks our DH (from 60%Hot 40%Instant to 80%Instant 20%Hot) and Warden is balanced vs Others Healers.