do wolf form see invis really see invis? I guess not. So what's the point?

[LightBre]

<DIV>Bfore, the wolf form addes up to the lvl of invis u can see against ur enemy's invis (app, adept, or master). Now it does nothing. Hmmm, so what's the point? It used to be that the ring, eyepatch and the wolf form would all stack together and be able to work off the enemy's invis, but now it looks a mess. They all just say see invis not, without a score of how much they see, so how does this work now? I used to be able to put these on and see through other ppl's invis, but to my surprise when I dueled a ranger, and these items and the wolf form's see invis are all the sudden useless. Hmmm, so what's the point having the see invis in the wolf form even if it doesn't work?</DIV>

[Tuppen]

I think that there is now a difference between see invis  and see stealth.  I might be wrong as I haven't had a chance to actively test this.  Anyone else who can confirm or deny?

[Ravenmi]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Tuppen wrote:<BR> I think that there is now a difference between see invis  and see stealth.  I might be wrong as I haven't had a chance to actively test this.  Anyone else who can confirm or deny?<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>That is correct, we can see invis, not stealth.  And it does work.<BR>

[Ilivdra]

<p>I think our old wolf forms actually said "see stealth" in the descriptions, too. Now that's not there anymore, so I didn't expect to. =) I would like to see a little more on it, but it's not bad considering it no longer uses concentration.</p>

[Spag]

I was able to see a stealth assassin last night, but he was 20 lvls below me.  Not sure if that had anything to do with it.

[Owlbe]

<P>If the assassin was grey to you then you would see him.</P> <P> </P> <P> </P>

[Ilivdra]

<p>Is it only grey, or is there a certain level stealth we can see now based on our level?</p>