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Procter
02-20-2005, 03:11 AM
Can anyone that has this spell tell me what the instant and HoT effect heals for please. I have Natures Caress (Master I) and Sylvan Waters (Adept I) But the Natures Caress is still significantly more powerful than the Sylvan Waters. Will update to adept 3 if its becomes more powerful than the Natures Caress, but i'd rahter not gamble a rare on it till I know for sure.

Frametree
02-20-2005, 03:15 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Procter01 wrote:<BR>Can anyone that has this spell tell me what the instant and HoT effect heals for please. I have Natures Caress (Master I) and Sylvan Waters (Adept I) But the Natures Caress is still significantly more powerful than the Sylvan Waters. Will update to adept 3 if its becomes more powerful than the Natures Caress, but i'd rahter not gamble a rare on it till I know for sure.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> I'd love to know too.  Btw, what does Sylvan Waters do at Adept 1?  I'll get Sylvan Waters tonight.

Frametree
02-20-2005, 03:20 AM
<DIV>Oh, also, what did you pick for level 40 training?  Isn't there a nature's caress like option?  What does it do, if you know?  I haven't respec'd yet.  Chose Woodone's, the buff.  Not a lousy option, but not sure it's the best one.  Did it knowing we'd get to respec at some point.</DIV>

Procter
02-21-2005, 07:55 AM
Does no one know?

Raider Hat
02-22-2005, 08:47 PM
<blockquote><hr>Frametree wrote:<DIV>Oh, also, what did you pick for level 40 training? Isn't there a nature's caress like option? What does it do, if you know? I haven't respec'd yet. Chose Woodone's, the buff. Not a lousy option, but not sure it's the best one. Did it knowing we'd get to respec at some point.</DIV><hr></blockquote>At lvl 45 the lvl 40 training version of Nature's Embrace heal for almost 1k not including the few ticks after. Very impressive.

Frametree
02-22-2005, 10:08 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Raider Hater wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Frametree wrote:<BR> <DIV>Oh, also, what did you pick for level 40 training? Isn't there a nature's caress like option? What does it do, if you know? I haven't respec'd yet. Chose Woodone's, the buff. Not a lousy option, but not sure it's the best one. Did it knowing we'd get to respec at some point.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR><BR>At lvl 45 the lvl 40 training version of Nature's Embrace heal for almost 1k not including the few ticks after. Very impressive.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Oh I see.  The training is a version of NE rather than NC.  Sounds like it outheals adept 3 NE by enough to make this a genuine option for the level training choice.  I'm torn. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR>

Raider Hat
02-24-2005, 08:22 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Procter01 wrote:<BR>Can anyone that has this spell tell me what the instant and HoT effect heals for please. I have Natures Caress (Master I) and Sylvan Waters (Adept I) But the Natures Caress is still significantly more powerful than the Sylvan Waters. Will update to adept 3 if its becomes more powerful than the Natures Caress, but i'd rahter not gamble a rare on it till I know for sure.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> Back on subject now...anyone know what Sylvan Waters adept 1 and 3 heals for???

Frametree
02-24-2005, 09:18 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Raider Hater wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Procter01 wrote:<BR>Can anyone that has this spell tell me what the instant and HoT effect heals for please. I have Natures Caress (Master I) and Sylvan Waters (Adept I) But the Natures Caress is still significantly more powerful than the Sylvan Waters. Will update to adept 3 if its becomes more powerful than the Natures Caress, but i'd rahter not gamble a rare on it till I know for sure.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> Back on subject now...anyone know what Sylvan Waters adept 1 and 3 heals for???<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Yes, partly.  At 43.4, my adept 1 sylvan waters healed 425 +191, and then ticked four times at 127.  I wonder myself about the adept 3.  My adept 3 NC healed at that same level: 435+243, then 162 x 4.  So I don't use the SW yet, really.  And you've reminded me that I want to test it at 44 now, too.  So I'll post that when I know.<BR>

Raider Hat
02-24-2005, 11:45 AM
<DIV>Bah, I love to know where you got that Sylvan Waters adept :smileyhappy:</DIV>

shtychk
02-24-2005, 09:24 PM
<DIV>I got it from the Broker <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

Ram
02-24-2005, 09:40 PM
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#ffff00 size=3>Quote:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#ffff00 size=3></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#ffff00 size=3>At lvl 45 the lvl 40 training version of Nature's Embrace heal for almost 1k not including the few ticks after. Very impressive.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#66ff00 size=2><STRONG>Yeppers, I took that training pick and I am still using it at level 45 and with only one more major single target heal spell from now to 50 that we get around 47 or 48, I will always be using this spell. </STRONG></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#66ff00 size=2><STRONG></STRONG></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#66ff00 size=2><STRONG>This is one training spell at 40 you do not want to miss!!!</STRONG></FONT></DIV>

Frametree
02-24-2005, 09:45 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Raider Hater wrote:<BR> <DIV>Bah, I love to know where you got that Sylvan Waters adept :smileyhappy:</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <P>I bought the app4 when I got the spell, having never seen an adept for SW on the broker.  Not 10 minutes later, after scribing the app4, I saw one.  I bought it.  It was cheap, too.  Woot.</P> <P>So nobody has the info for Adept 3 Sylvan Waters?  Surely sombody has sprung for it by now.  </P>

Frametree
02-24-2005, 09:48 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Ramia wrote:<BR> <DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#ffff00 size=3>Quote:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#ffff00 size=3></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#ffff00 size=3>At lvl 45 the lvl 40 training version of Nature's Embrace heal for almost 1k not including the few ticks after. Very impressive.</FONT></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#66ff00 size=2><STRONG>Yeppers, I took that training pick and I am still using it at level 45 and with only one more major single target heal spell from now to 50 that we get around 47 or 48, I will always be using this spell. </STRONG></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#66ff00 size=2><STRONG></STRONG></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#66ff00 size=2><STRONG>This is one training spell at 40 you do not want to miss!!!</STRONG></FONT></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>I'm still up in the air (and haven't /respec'd).  But this does sound tempting for sure.  What's the 47 or 48 single target?  I can look up the name, and will, but normally I can't tell which "line" of spells it falls in.  I think if it's verdant rapture (maybe that's it), it's in the NE line.  But I can't remember now my reason for thinking that.  So maybe I'm wrong.  If it is an NE upgrade, I wonder how it compares with the lvl 40 training version of NE.  <BR>

Ram
02-25-2005, 09:11 PM
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#66ff00 size=2>Once I hit 47 or 48 and get it I can let you know unless some one can post the information who is already at the correct level and can compare the difference. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#66ff00 size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#66ff00 size=2> I already have the ink all ready for a Tier 5 spell and  once I get the Adept 1, I might as well use it on this upgrade since that will be the best Direct healing spell that a warden will have, why not have a adept 3 for it?  </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#66ff00 size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#66ff00 size=2>I am just hoping that level 47/48 spell adept 3 will be healing for some major HP and not just a few HP over the training spell or I will be quite upset.</FONT></DIV>

Frametree
02-25-2005, 09:55 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Ramia wrote:<BR> <DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#66ff00 size=2>Once I hit 47 or 48 and get it I can let you know unless some one can post the information who is already at the correct level and can compare the difference. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#66ff00 size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#66ff00 size=2> I already have the ink all ready for a Tier 5 spell and  once I get the Adept 1, I might as well use it on this upgrade since that will be the best Direct healing spell that a warden will have, why not have a adept 3 for it?  </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#66ff00 size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#66ff00 size=2>I am just hoping that level 47/48 spell adept 3 will be healing for some major HP and not just a few HP over the training spell or I will be quite upset.</FONT></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> I guess, come to think of it, that the spell must be in the NE line, since Sylvan Waters is our level 40s NC-line spell.  Anyway, Ramia, I posted some information in the Training Hot thread (that has 3 pages now).  Info about the training spell at 50, anyway, that I found in another thread.  Maybe it's interesting.