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ickari
01-28-2005, 12:55 PM
Is is possible to get upgrades for Sylvan Touch?It's listed as App2 in my spell book but I'm guessing theres no App2 + or Adepts as there is no mastery figure (presumably it keeps scaling).Can anyone confim?

Unmask
01-28-2005, 10:17 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> ickarius wrote:<BR>Is is possible to get upgrades for Sylvan Touch?<BR><BR>It's listed as App2 in my spell book but I'm guessing theres no App2 + or Adepts as there is no mastery figure (presumably it keeps scaling).<BR><BR>Can anyone confim?<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>I've been trying to find the same thing.  None of the sages I've asked have it in their recipe books.<BR>

3cho
01-28-2005, 11:13 PM
<DIV>I believe Sylvan Touch (app2) upgrades can be crafted.  I'm pretty sure I've seen them on broker boards.</DIV>

KnutForkbea
01-29-2005, 12:49 AM
<DIV>I've looked for Sylvan Touch upgrades for the past two months or so on the brokers and have never seen anything. Sylvan Wind (the group HOT) yes, Sylvan Touch, no.</DIV>

Dragonreal
01-29-2005, 01:08 AM
<DIV>If you look at the skill lvls on sylvan touch, you'll see it has no mastery lvl, just a minimum lvl; so it should indefinitely continue to get better as you lvl.</DIV>

Kyralis
01-29-2005, 02:09 AM
Sylvan Touch cannot be upgraded.It's one of the spells that increases in power indefinitely by levelling, but has no upgrade scrolls.

3cho
01-29-2005, 02:40 AM
<DIV>Ah, I stand corrected then.  As one of the other posters suggested, Im probably confusing it with Sylvan Wind.</DIV>

XBr
01-29-2005, 03:25 AM
<DIV>It's really worth paying the $1/month to access the official items database on EQ2Players.com. It lists all items ever found, with complete details. If you search there, you'll see that no Sylvan Touch upgrades have ever been found or made.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Wych <who is still stinging from wasting 1g on a near-useless Sylvan Winds Adept 1 thinking it was Sylvan Touch> </DIV>

Kyralis
01-29-2005, 03:29 AM
Sylvan Winds is still used by me at 50. Now, I have the Master 1 version, but still... don't underestimate the usefulness of that spell, especially when you're as yet too young to have met up with the nasty AOE monsters. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

JackFrost
01-29-2005, 07:15 PM
<DIV>Sylvan Touch is great cause you can use it while running.  It has saved me and and some of my groupmates many times because of this.</DIV>

Kyralis
01-30-2005, 12:24 AM
In the high 40s you get an instant cast group HoT. It's always fun when you have those battles where you have to use Sylvan Touch, the instant HoT and all 4 aggro debuffs... (Yes, happened more times than I care to admit. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> )

Krib
01-30-2005, 01:20 AM
<blockquote><hr>JackFrostAK wrote:<DIV>Sylvan Touch is great cause you can use it while running. </DIV><hr></blockquote>*HUG*OMG, 50 stars for you! <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

naMessiah
01-30-2005, 07:52 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Krib wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> JackFrostAK wrote:<BR> <DIV>Sylvan Touch is great cause you can use it while running. </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR><BR>*HUG*<BR><BR>OMG, 50 stars for you! <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <P>Hmm... *Group hug* :smileytongue:</P> <P>Didn't know that either. That's über info.</P>

XBr
01-30-2005, 10:57 AM
<DIV> <HR> Sylvan Winds is still used by me at 50. <HR> </DIV> <P>Thank you! I feel so much better about that 1g now!</P> <P> </P>

Kyralis
01-30-2005, 11:03 AM
Not to worry. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Our upgrade group heals are, frankly, quite bad- the mana efficiency is poor, and they don't heal *that* much more. Again, I'm using Master 1 of the first one, but still...Group heals are the only thing I'm really disappointed in as far as Warden healing is concerned. Hard to complain about the rest. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Sepp
01-31-2005, 08:22 AM
<DIV>Just for the record, any spell that is granted at App2 cannot be upgraded.  That seems to be the signal for that (Notice your HO starter comes at App2, or used to, the elemental, trauma and noxious cures all at App2)</DIV>

Kyralis
01-31-2005, 08:27 AM
Just to confirm what Sepp said. At the end of Beta they started replacing spells that came at App 2 with names that didnt' have a tier marker, but the've missed a number. SOE seems to slowly be fixing that situation, however.

drews
02-01-2005, 01:12 AM
Yes sylvan touch is very useful even without upgrades. As noted you can cast it while running which I do about once every time I adventure (particularly useful when harevesting at places above your adventure level). Another important use is pulling agro off running friends. That is if someone in your group accidentally gets agro and is running you can use it to pull the agro off of them and onto you. May not seem very useful, however, It can keep them alive especially if they are nearly out of power and you still have some run time left. Dust cloud can also be useful for this (long range, fast cast, but need to be standing still so not quite as useful.)Lorical

Barim
02-01-2005, 09:41 PM
<DIV>I can safely say that sylvan touch is the spell that have saved me [Removed for Content] most times, either in a massive add situation were everyone needs to run or when pulling lots of aggro while running around doing various "run around" quests.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I would not mind these spells, like wisp, subterfuge, gnomish blah blah, and the like get a sligth time reduction though, they are used infrequently enough to be put on 4 or higher hotbar meaning I mostly forget them, touch and wisp are the only ones on the 3 headsup bars I have.</DIV>

Ram
03-10-2005, 09:43 PM
<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#66ff00 size=2>I would still like to see this spell upgradeable somehow. After all it is a druid spell and why just only app 2 on it and there not be anyway to upgrade to Adepts or Masters?</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#66ff00 size=2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#66ff00 size=2>Hopefully this will be fixed before the next expanison, or make a new spell such as a level 51 upgrade to it for the next expanision??</FONT></DIV>

Kyralis
03-10-2005, 11:37 PM
At 48 you get an "upgrade" to Sylvan Touch, a group instant-cast HoT. The two are on different timers, as well.Since Sylvan Touch continues to improve at every level, I don't really see a need for it to be upgradeable with adepts or the like.

Ram
03-11-2005, 08:09 PM
<DIV>Quote:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>At 48 you get an "upgrade" to Sylvan Touch, a group instant-cast HoT. The two are on different timers, as well.<BR></DIV> <DIV> <HR> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#66ff00 size=2>Thanks for that info, I didn't know that.  What level is the spell?  App 2 or Adept 2?  I wonder if this can be upgraded?</FONT></DIV>

Kyralis
03-12-2005, 09:19 AM
Sylvan Embrace is the 48 group instant HoT. It's a little odd, though, looking at the spell now:1) It has no tier marker, indicating that it can't be upgraded.2) It *does* have both a required level (240) and a mastery level (290), indicating that it stops improving at level 58- which is different from the indefinite-improvement of Sylvan Touch.

withtee
03-17-2005, 10:43 AM
<DIV>Now that I think back... that spell always con'd white didn't it? </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I sure feel like an idiot now, but I guess I can stop searching the broker for an upgrade huh?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Great spell by the way... it's saved me/us quite a few times...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>