Inquisitor and dps/ the battlepriest??

[rito]

<DIV>Ok, I know that we are now the number one dps class in the game, but sofar im  a little disapointed. Level 15 atm, and it takes quite along time to kill the mob. If the mob is a little tougher then usual, or takes a buddy along, i end up with a huge power drain. I seldom die, I can kil the mob, but it takes to long to my liking.  I wonder if this will improve when i level up. I would like to know from other players how they deal with this.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>My profile</DIV> <DIV>I'm a born soloplayer. Ok i admit that there are better solo classes ( I played a conjuror till level 25, a long time ago)  but one of the reasons i choose this classs that I read a few posts here about the "battlepriest". At what level is that?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I love the role of the evil priest, and like the looks of a toon in plate. I like the fact that we have a few dots AND direct damagespells. Been thinkings about a Fury, but all they do is casting Dots until level 20 something, according to the spell list on the fury forum. And with all respect, I cannot see how a nature based priest can be evil. Atm im consedering rerolling into sk. Any ideas, answers or the like?  I would like to know. Thanks people</DIV>

[rito]

<DIV>Sorry what i ment to say is that:   I know that we <STRONG><FONT size=4>NOT</FONT></STRONG> the best dps class in the game</DIV>

[Wanders]

<DIV>You will start to do damage when you get your AA points up. At 100 AA's you will do more damage than most other classes. Basicly only the Tier1 classes will do more damage. On very long trash epic fights, you will find that only necros/conjurers will do more damage than a battle priest inquisitor. Simply because we can keep a very high damage output up without spending power. Where other classes run out of power, we just keep going.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>But until you get your AA skills up, you are pretty much gonna kill slowly. SK's will be better to solo in the beginning, but they also have a hard time before level 45, where they get some life tap/heal skill.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>You will get a spell that will power drain the mob, and give you the power. Harrowing Inquest - at level 45. It will help you keep your power up. Paired with some in-combat power regen items, you will never run out of power.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Get your melee attacks up so they do 100% critical attacks should be your first priority on the AA lines, then  go for the first few combat arts and battle priest skill, then go for the +40% DPS mod AA skill.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Remember that upgrading your weapon to something good is very important. Dont go for anything below legendary. Go for a 2-Hander is the best choise imho. You will be doing most of your damage with autoattack melee damage.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>My AA cleric build is Str/Agi/Sta: 4-4-8 and Inq AA's all in battle line. And I top at around 1300 damage per second on raids where I go all out (ie, no healing) (I'm level 70 with 84 AA's atm)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>--</DIV> <DIV>Rillek, Inquisitor on Guk.</DIV>

[Bithnar]

<P>I got my Inquisitor battle priest up to lvl 23 this weekend with 13 aa's so far and I am liking him a lot.  At first battles last forever but they eventually begin to move quicker now.  I can take on triple ups that are 3-5 levels below me and live with out much of a problem.  I can even be getting hit on by another triple up and survive to kill the one I am attacking and run to tell about it <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>I am using a 2-handed imbued steel maul and it works great.  it will usually proc at least once a fight and sometimes twice.</P> <P>My only gripe is not all of the non-repeatable quests in the Commonlands are giving aa exp :smileymad: so I was hoping for a lot more aa exp but it didn't happen.  I may have to sneek off to Butcherblock and GFay to do some of those quests.  Or I may need to head on into Nek Forest and forget about the quests that are still in my journal from Commonlands.  Any suggestions?</P>

[Echar Elocin]

if your going battle cleric make sure u have 100% melee crits.  all your ca's will crit 100% also u will like it better than now even <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> i know they added aa's to alot of quests prolly overlooked many lowlvl old zone quests best bet imo would be new zones. 

[Bithnar]

Yup Crit line first I am at 4-4-5 Sta line atm and after I get max crits I will either switch to EoF line or start either the Strength or Agility line.

[graxnip]

<div><blockquote><hr>Bithnar wrote:<div></div> <p>I got my Inquisitor battle priest up to lvl 23 this weekend </p><p>Or I may need to head on into Nek Forest and forget about the quests that are still in my journal from Commonlands.  Any suggestions?</p><hr></blockquote>if you are 23 - forget the commonlands - totally hit up nek forest or TS - there are TONS of quests there. the nek beach quests are great for your level.butcherblock also has quests that are lvl appropriate, but not as many as the old world.atm im running through two boxing a conjurer and my lvl 70 inq- my n00blet conj is lvl 25 atm so I am back tracking getting mentored aa for the inq.</div>

[rito]

<DIV>Thanks for the reply. It was helpfull to know there's hope. At what level can you call yourselff a battle priest? In other words: at what is your character so well developed  that you are really a battlepriest? </DIV>

[DwarvesR]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Bithnar wrote:<BR> Yup Crit line first I am at 4-4-5 Sta line atm and after I get max crits I will either switch to EoF line or start either the Strength or Agility line.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>/agree.</P> <P>Get STA to 4-4-8, then get your Battle Cleric.  Convert as many spells to CA's as possible as fast as possible.  They scale as you level, so you won't even need to upgrade the spells that they replace (unless you plan on standing back and casting but. . . you did say Battle Cleric. . . . . ).  Once you have all the spells converted to CA's (included the Strike of Corruption) then start "backfilling" the others up to 5 points.  Once you have your 20 points in the line, get your Battle Cleric, then finish upgrading to 5 points in all your CA's.  From here you want to go back into the KoS tree and get the AGI line to 4-4-8 also.  This will boost your dps by 40% on your auto-attacks, and since you auto-attack a lot. . . . . </P> <P>Until you are getting close to 50 I wouldn't worry about the Enhance: Fanaticism AA, though.</P> <P>After that, pretty much put the points where you want.  Lots of people like the STR tree for the 40% proc of an interupt plus a bit of damage.  Others really like the INT tree or adding more ponts in the STA tree for the increased heal crits.  Up to you what you want to do, though.  As it is in everything, after all <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>I haven't sat down and truly tested it, but I thought I noticed a difference in the damage numbers on my CA's when I have my yaulp + aura up vs when I don't, so it seems that the dps mod is increasing our CA damage numbers too.  If so. . . it helps.  If not, I must have been smoking something that night when I thought I noticed that difference.  As it is, I'll test it when I get on later this morning so I can say definitively whether this is happening or not.</P>

[Calain80]

<blockquote><hr>rito schrieb:<DIV>Thanks for the reply. It was helpfull to know there's hope. At what level can you call yourselff a battle priest? In other words: at what is your character so well developed  that you are really a battlepriest? </DIV><hr></blockquote>I would say, that you can call yourself a Battle Cleric after you reached at least 100% Melee Crit and the Battle Priest AA (The Final Ability in the EOF AA Battle Line).

[dave143256384]

<DIV>one thing i would surgest amongst all of this is, taking the upgrades in AAs for the deaggro skill we take.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>with all this damage, plus the natural tendancy for priests since EoF to pull major agro, your gonna want that skill as good as possible.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>i also took the pious upgrades, again the more hit points the better. and ive maxed the act of conviction boost.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>im not interested in the final abilities aside from battle cleric, and so have spread my points around, and taken the 448 approach in KoS AAs.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>were definitly comming out all guns blazing in this expansion</DIV>

[Dannd]

<P>Playing on a PVP server, and I haven't concentrated on PVP at all - just gaining AA points.  I'm at 22 AA points now, and lvl 30 Inq.</P> <P>I have to say - I never even considered playing an Inquisitor - glad I did.</P> <P>My set up is atm:  STA 4/4/6 (almost there to 100% crit).</P> <P>And I have 7 or 8 points going down the BP line.  I haven't added any points to our Oppression version, so I'll be working on that as well.  I only have 3 points in each of the slots though.</P> <P>But, the thing is:</P> <P>I wear crap armor - but have splurged on a great Fabled one hander and a good shield.  I've adorned the hammer with a proc on it (on top of it's already existant proc).  I have a chance to drain power and add it to mine.</P> <P>My group was in FG yesterday, heading towards the Vault (AA xp goodness).  The tank (a Bruiser) was still locked out, so me, a fury, and a necro went in anyways.  The necro was telling us that he'll pull up his Adept III tank pet.  I kindly retorted, "I'll tank."</P> <P>Much to their dismay and disbelief, they entertained my request.  The end result:  absolute success!  I came back to them with a "Never underestimate a Battle Priest!" to which, they all agreed.</P> <P>Not too many know of our abilities, and I'm learning as I go along.  </P> <P>PVP fights - 1v1 - are usually in my favor.  I took down a Champion twink Dirge (high 20s - already with a Maj'Dul carpet) quite effortlessly.  Fury's are no problem, as with Wardens - two of the most feared pvp'ers in the game right now.  I still get my backside handed to me in group fights (where there's a group, and I'm all by myself).  Monks are not a problem either.  Although, my PVP record may not show it now, just wait - once I get my BP line maxxed out, and my crit and agi lines done, I'll be a force to be reckoned with.</P> <P>It's nice not having to upgrade any of our CAs.  Just our reactives and debuffs.</P>

[Avirodar]

<div></div>In the absence of official tanks, any class in the game is capable of tanking. I've seen almost all do it, myself included.Things change in PVP as you level. Things like resists from high quality armor, good weapons, and total AA's benefit some class types more than others.  Someone you can own with ease at level 30 is fully liable to turn around and beat nine colours of crud out of you at level 60-70.  So in short, if you can slap people around at low levels, dont expect it to remain like that forever. It is liable to change.At the present time, for top end content, Inquisitors fare better than we did in T6.  Sadly, SoE has a long way to go with PvP balance before it can be regarded as a serious part of the game. I am not talking specifically about Inquisitors, but overall as a whole. PvP is all over the place, what class you are playing has a much bigger impact on the result than it should.But ultimately, with history as shown by SoE, what is "best" is frequently subject to backflips and kneejerk reactions, so go with what you think you will have fun with, and enjoy. (After all, fun is the point of playing the game)- Avirodar<div></div><p>Message Edited by Trinral on <span class=date_text>01-24-2007</span> <span class=time_text>12:17 AM</span>

[Norrsken]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Danndak wrote:<BR> <P>Playing on a PVP server, and I haven't concentrated on PVP at all - just gaining AA points.  I'm at 22 AA points now, and lvl 30 Inq.</P> <P>I have to say - I never even considered playing an Inquisitor - glad I did.</P> <P>My set up is atm:  STA 4/4/6 (almost there to 100% crit).</P> <P>And I have 7 or 8 points going down the BP line.  I haven't added any points to our Oppression version, so I'll be working on that as well.  I only have 3 points in each of the slots though.</P> <P>But, the thing is:</P> <P>I wear crap armor - but have splurged on a great Fabled one hander and a good shield.  I've adorned the hammer with a proc on it (on top of it's already existant proc).  I have a chance to drain power and add it to mine.</P> <P>My group was in FG yesterday, heading towards the Vault (AA xp goodness).  The tank (a Bruiser) was still locked out, so me, a fury, and a necro went in anyways.  The necro was telling us that he'll pull up his Adept III tank pet.  I kindly retorted, "I'll tank."</P> <P>Much to their dismay and disbelief, they entertained my request.  The end result:  absolute success!  I came back to them with a "Never underestimate a Battle Priest!" to which, they all agreed.</P> <P>Not too many know of our abilities, and I'm learning as I go along.  </P> <P>PVP fights - 1v1 - are usually in my favor.  I took down a Champion twink Dirge (high 20s - already with a Maj'Dul carpet) quite effortlessly.  Fury's are no problem, as with Wardens - two of the most feared pvp'ers in the game right now.  I still get my backside handed to me in group fights (where there's a group, and I'm all by myself).  Monks are not a problem either.  Although, my PVP record may not show it now, just wait - once I get my BP line maxxed out, and my crit and agi lines done, I'll be a force to be reckoned with.</P> <P>It's nice not having to upgrade any of our CAs.  Just our reactives and debuffs.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Have to chip in, Im the same as you, only lvl 26 with 36 aas. I tank for my group most of the time (Its either me or our warlock). <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR>And, the only thing that actually put up a fight since I got my battlecleric spec rolling is a ca speced warden. Quite nasty bugger. </P> <P>ATM Im working on my crits. 2 more aas to go,a nd after that, I'll go back to EoF and get the last CA (The one at the bottom). <BR>I love bursting stuff to death. Not to mention our interrupts help when figting anything casterish. Such as furies. (Oh? You wanna heal? Nopes, I dont think so...)<BR></P>

[scottman355]

<p>Well, i play a 70 Inquis on Naggy, and lemme tell ya, I created the character because i knew they were in high demand for raids, now i'm loving the class and having a blast in T7 pvp. I have 76 AAs, Battle Line from EoF full, 100% crit chance, Bolt of Power procs 35% of the time atm (loving it). I use a 1h with a decent proc atm (tried the two hander setup for a while and liked it, but Bolt of Power interrupts target plus DIVINE damage--1h gives better chance for THAT PROC ONLY). It's hard to take one of us down, one on one and one on two I can hold my own mostly. I usually DPS when we farm instances, and usually make jaws drop. The other day we trioed OoB with me, a 70 SK and a 67 Bruiser. I put the mana Proc (Chilling Inquest) on the Bruiser, and spread out my STA and mitigation buffs out between us, and hit us all with my DPS buff, switching between heals, autoattacks, CAS and of course Fanaticism, we did well only wiping once. I for one love this class, and can't wait til i get all my pvp gear cuz it will only get better <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>See ya on the battlefield! (I wear the [Removed for Content] pope hat)</p>

[Manopow]

Ok currently i have 27aa, all down the battle line to the AOE CA 5/5. 3 in the reactive and a few remainders. Should i use my free respec to drop all my 5/5 CA to 3/5ish and go 4 4 8 on the first page for 100% crit, then build my CA back up to 5/5 over the next 15 aa lvs. Or would that serve no better then I am now atm, and should I just put the next 15 aa lvls in to the 100% crit line? currently lvl 22 with 27aa I do very well in pve and pvp atm .. but if i could be doing better that would be nice and woth my respec. The next 15 aa lvs are going to be alot slower then the first 27 is why i even think about it.

[graxnip]

if you are happy and you are doing well, then I wouldnt bother. Instead save the free respec to experiment with drastically different AA paths if you feel inclined to at one point. - for example you go 100% into battle priest and str/agi/sta later in the game, you start thinking hmm.. that int line with the shorter cast times and end ability sure look nice and would help me more now that I am raiding than 40% dps i picked in the agi line.. but do as you want, imo 100% crit is extremely important, more so than the CA's I also think that the 15.6% heal crit below that is worth more than filling out str or agi. anyway you look at it there really is no right or wrong, just how you wish to play your toon.

[WizzRog]

<p>Manopow - be careful with your respec - the points allocated into each tree stay within that tree.  Therefore, if you respec your EoF Inq tree, the points will not be available to the KoS cleric tree - i.e. you will not be able to undo the CA AA's and post them into Stat AA's - and vice versa.</p>

[Manopow]

<p>Thanks a Million <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I almost ran in to just this problem.  Guess I have nothing left to debate.  My next 15 aa lvls go in to the first aa tree tward 100% crits.  Just hope i can get there before i reach lvl 30 <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Ultimatum]

After taking a look at the Inquisitor AAs and taking into account the fact that the only class I've never played since EQ2 launched was a healer, I decide to roll one as an alt just to try it out on Venekor PvP server.  Let me say I am MORE than impressed.  I usually dn't level alts past 15 or so because I'm just not an alt type of person, but I am having so much fun that I plan on eventually grinding to 70.  I'm currently 27 with 22 AAs (max crits and I have the first 3 combat art conversions in the EoF tree) and I'm already doing a crapload of damage for my level.  I have already taken out mages up to 6 levels higher than me, and other healers 1-2 levels higher...I made it a point to snag: <img src="http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/7425/getimagephpzw8.jpg" border="0"> and I'm doing about 120-180 a swing its pretty nuts.  Hopefully I can get my hands on a Vraksakin Claw Club when I'm in my 60s to max out my DPS output.  My advice to the OP is to definately stick it out until 25-30 to fully pass judgement on the class, and to get a weapon with a high damage spread because with 100% crits, you'll only hit on the high end and you'll see your DPS soar.