Old Inqy thinking of resubscribing

[RedFeather]

Hello Inquisitor community. I'm an old Inquisitor player thinking of returning to EQ2.I left for a break from the game and picked up another one to play until now.I'm thinking of returning to my inquisitor, but wanted to know if any significant changes have happened to the class since spring.I read that there is a deity system now and possibly new AAs?I also scanned the forums here and noticed people talking about a battle cleric. My inquisitor was made back in 2004 as a troll cleric, because I wanted to be a melee priest! <span>:smileyvery-happy:</span>So I was wondering about whether going that route will actually vary the inquisitor playstyle enough that it'll be a fresh experience from that of when I left.I am also wondering about respecing AAs. I have come to like Guild Wars and continue to play because I am fond of the ability to swap attribute points and skills to yeild a wide variety of playstyles with just one character. If AAs are playing a big role in playstyle and can be respec'd, does this mean that I can vary my Inquisitors playstyle by going back to Freeport and respecing and then go back out and adventure to fill a somewhat different role than earlier that day? That would be very nice if such flexibility is possible.I am about to download the 'play as a fae' trial to see what some of the new content is like also. Hopefully overall I will be drawn back into the wonderful world of Norrath. If I do return, I play on Kithicor as Scauhn and would love to get together and talk.<span>:smileyhappy:</span><div></div>

[inhumanus1986]

Well Redfeather, the EoF expansion for Inquisitors may be something you will like, although the game mechanics may not allow you to be a true battle priest, ill try to explain.AAs in EoF are mostly geared to CA and dps, some debuffs and available tauntsUnfortunately, we cannot respec our AA w/o a price, if we could freely respec, it would be niceAs for Gods, evil ones give out mostly dps boosts, if you want healing boosts or wisdom boosts, you'll have to betrayFae cannot betray atm, so the skill glide is for goodiesAs for the battle priest thing, for soloing its fun, but in groups since DoF, all mobs auto target the healer as you know, add 700 dps and the tank will spend all his time keepiing the mob off the dpsing healer........besides, they would rather have some kickass 2k dps and you healHonestly this is my first MMO, ive truly enjoyed this game, Inquisitors are fun at many levels, but in EoF they have given us no new utility or heal boosts and as i said the battle priest thing does not work in the group game mechanic.Hope this helpsInhumanus Nex70 InquisitorBlackguardNektulous Server<div></div>

[TheSpin]

<DIV>If you originally wanted a battle cleric, that's exactly what you have.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I've been a true AA fanatic and am up to 94AA on my inquisitor (which I created after EoF launch).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Many people on these boards are spending a lot of time complaining about a lack of heal based AA, especially AA that caters toward raiding (inquisitors are generally the melee dps priest and they want a boost to their group heals because many new raid instances are heavy AoE).  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The EoF inquisitor is more of a balance between being a good healer (but not necessarily the best healer), having good utility in group (many nice buffs/debuffs), and doing some fairly decent dps of their own.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>While I usually don't like to tell my own stories on the forums, let me share a personal experience where my I really felt like my class shined in a small group setting.  It was today in the Halls of Fate (heroic instance in KoS, mobs level 68-72)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>We had a guardian, bruiser, assassin, brigand, templar, and myself.  Since templar and inquisitor group buffs are very similar and many aspects don't stack I dropped both of my group buffs and used the concentration slots to buff the four melee classes with a 27% dps/900ish hp buff.  Because I have AA to remove my stifle while using zealotry I put it up immediately after the tank pulled the mob back to the spot he wanted and was still able to use my combat arts and cast cures without dropping it (cures cost more and cast slower, but with 2 healers and chilling inquest on the assassin I had plenty of power).  My zealotry is still the lower level version but buffs about 50int and 38% haste to everyone in the group.  There were a few mobs with enough initial damage, or enough damage throughout that the templar couldn't keep up with the heals, in these cases I focused on heals and may or may not have had time to toggle on zealotry.  It was an ideal situation for me and we couldn't have had an easier HoF run.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>As a solo healer in a group you can still heal well enough for any dungeon/instance in your level range, none of the classes got too much for heals with EoF AA so taking the battle line doesn't take away from your healing ability at all.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I've seen a ton of people come back to the game after being away for a while and everyone has been really happy with the changes.</DIV>

[jago quicksilver]

an inquisitor can be a badass melee priest when specced right, if thats what you want, id definitely resubscribe

[Allowin]

<div></div>if you want to be a melee cleric and do what any scout or mage fighter and most other priest can do better (meaning dps) then yes you should come back to the game.if you want to come back and play your inquis and your looking foward to getting groups and maybe even do a little raiding...then stay with the game your playing unless you want to betray your inquis to a templar. inquis is the new step child of EQ2 and really dont have much of a defined roll other than being able to heal some and waste alot of AA's on melee abilities and the garbage that sony stuck us with.but be warned, with the EOF changes, you wanting to be a melee cleric will take alot of work. they nerfed mitigation and avoidance and now it takes a crap load of agility and + defense to get any sort of avoidance. my inquis has 4500 mitigation but less than 13% avoidance with his setup. i can get higher avoidance by swapping gear and shileds but every point of avoidance i gain i loose  5X the WIS and resist/power.were lack luster healers to beging with (usualy stuck in the dps group so we can debuff and cast fanatacism nonstop) and all we get in the way of AA's does not make that any better. we have garbage choices for diety which dont give us any WIS or healing help....ive retired my inquis after many many hours and alot of plat invested in him to play my alt (70 conj) and havent looked back since. playing him is just 0 fun to me anymore. i was hoping to get some loving in the way of AA's or diety choices with EOF and i was sadly dissapointed.<div></div><p>Message Edited by Allowin on <span class=date_text>01-03-2007</span> <span class=time_text>05:13 AM</span>

[TheSpin]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Allowin wrote:<BR> if you want to be a melee cleric and do what any scout or mage fighter and most other priest can do better (meaning dps) then yes you should come back to the game.<BR><BR>if you want to come back and play your inquis and your looking foward to getting groups and maybe even do a little raiding...then stay with the game your playing unless you want to betray your inquis to a templar. inquis is the new step child of EQ2 and really dont have much of a defined roll other than being able to heal some and waste alot of AA's on melee abilities and the garbage that sony stuck us with.<BR><BR>but be warned, with the EOF changes, you wanting to be a melee cleric will take alot of work. they nerfed mitigation and avoidance and now it takes a crap load of agility and + defense to get any sort of avoidance. my inquis has 4500 mitigation but less than 13% avoidance with his setup. i can get higher avoidance by swapping gear and shileds but every point of avoidance i gain i loose  5X the WIS and resist/power.<BR><BR>were lack luster healers to beging with (usualy stuck in the dps group so we can debuff and cast fanatacism nonstop) and all we get in the way of AA's does not make that any better. we have garbage choices for diety which dont give us any WIS or healing help....<BR><BR>ive retired my inquis after many many hours and alot of plat invested in him to play my alt (70 conj) and havent looked back since. playing him is just 0 fun to me anymore. i was hoping to get some loving in the way of AA's or diety choices with EOF and i was sadly dissapointed.<BR> <P>Message Edited by Allowin on <SPAN class=date_text>01-03-2007</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>05:13 AM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>This looks like someone who picked the wrong class to begin with from reading his post.  </P> <P>Having fully specced in being a melee cleric from the start I couldn't be happier with it.  I haven't gauged my dps against other priest classes...I'd guess we're the best priest dps against a single target with battle spec.  I'm up to par on dps with most fighter classes, plus I can heal well.  </P> <P>As for as mitigation and avoidance, avoidance was nerfed way more than mitigation against heroic mobs.  Heroic mobs get an increased chance to hit you just based on the fact that they are heroic (I hate leather tanks against heroic mobs since eof came out).  This being the case, wouldn't you want to choose the class that has the highest possible mitigation, at least mitigation doesn't get less effective against heroics compared to non heroics.</P> <P>It's not especially difficult to be a melee oriented cleric as far as gear or AA goes.  There's tons of str/wis gear in end-game.</P> <P>Being put in the melee dps groups wihle raiding is also not a bad thing.  Put Chilling Inquest on a scout and you're set for power.  We also have some excellent buffs to increase melee dps in groups.  We were not really designed to be MT healers, but we truly excell in a melee dps group.</P>

[DwarvesR]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> TheSpin wrote:<BR> <BR> <P>Having fully specced in being a melee cleric from the start I couldn't be happier with it.  I haven't gauged my dps against other priest classes...I'd guess we're the best priest dps against a single target with battle spec.  I'm up to par on dps with most fighter classes, plus I can heal well. </P> <P>As for as mitigation and avoidance, avoidance was nerfed way more than mitigation against heroic mobs.  Heroic mobs get an increased chance to hit you just based on the fact that they are heroic (I hate leather tanks against heroic mobs since eof came out).  This being the case, wouldn't you want to choose the class that has the highest possible mitigation, at least mitigation doesn't get less effective against heroics compared to non heroics.</P> <P>It's not especially difficult to be a melee oriented cleric as far as gear or AA goes.  There's tons of str/wis gear in end-game.</P> <P>Being put in the melee dps groups wihle raiding is also not a bad thing.  Put Chilling Inquest on a scout and you're set for power.  We also have some excellent buffs to increase melee dps in groups.  We were not really designed to be MT healers, but we truly excell in a melee dps group.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Absolutely agree.  I'm level 70 and still only have 58 aa's, but I've fully specc'd for melee.  All my heals are ad3 or better and my gear is all at least mastercrafted, with a decent sprinkling of legendary and fabled.  I can solo-heal HoF or the new Obelisk of Blight.  In Crypt of Valdoon I was main healer with a paladin as backup and we did just fine - didn't even lose 1 person ever.  I even managed to solo heal a significant portion of Mistmore Catacombs.  Anyone who says that Inquisitors are "lackluster" healers. . .I don't know what they're talking about.  I log in and my guildies start fighting over which group I have to join, much less the people on my friends list.  Add that I do decent dps with my combat spec and my guild is scout-heavy so I buff the guild groups very well -- I'm very much in demand.  And if I want to solo, I can do that too, and not feel like I'm taking forever to kill mobs.</P> <P>Personally, I love the direction of our aa's.  The only place I feel we may have a *slight* deficiency is in our group heals, but even there I'm usually adequate.  Only place I've really had trouble so far was in Deathtoll, but it wasn't terrible.</P> <P>Odd to think that I nearly deleted this toon at level 30 as "unplayable."  It's far and away my favorite one now.  I have a fury and a defiler also, and I enjoy playing them too, but the inquis is most definitely my favorite.</P>

[RedFeather]

I don't mind not being a great healer. When I first made this character I made him a troll because I was hoping he could be an evil melee priest in platemail. I'm glad they eventually allowed that type of playstyle.I started playing him again last night, but only have 1 AP and need to find places where a lvl 53 can get some more. I really want to mess around with the melee AAs because that's always been the type of character I wanted to shape him into while still being a cleric.Thank you all for your replies. My character's name is Scauhn on Kithicor if you are in my lvl range and want to group or have any advice for me.<div></div>

[TheSpin]

If you want to focus on getting some AA, mentor someone and do low level quests.  There are also a ton of quests to do in DoF areas at 53.

[graxnip]

just run around the world and get all the rediscovery bonuses to start - thats a handful right there.and yes it is mindboggling easy to get and max out your aa if you have a friend to mentor to.<div></div>

[Faelgalad]

<DIV>Look for someone in Level 20-24, mentor him go to Butcherblock, make the Quests there, giving you real nice Achivment <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[RedFeather]

<div></div>I'll try doing that. I did some quests in DOF and managed to get 5 AAs so far. I am going down the battle line first to get the CAs so I can do very quick HO combos without getting interrupted. Problem is I still have my old wand and not enough dough to get a hammer yet. A few more quests I'll try buying a hammer.<div></div><p>Message Edited by RedFeather1975 on <span class=date_text>01-06-2007</span> <span class=time_text>06:37 PM</span>

[Skargr]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> TheSpin wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE>Having fully specced in being a melee cleric from the start I couldn't be happier with it.  I haven't gauged my dps against other priest classes...I'd guess we're the best priest dps against a single target with battle spec.  I'm up to par on dps with most fighter classes, plus I can heal well.  </BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>I was under the impression that Inquisitors had the lowest DPS of the healers? I'm fairly new to the game though so am likely to be off target with this. How do Inquisitors compare to Defilers for DPS/Utility?</P> <P>I'm looking for a class that I can solo with but also jump into guild group to heal when we're short of a healer.</P> <P> </P> <P> </P>

[Norrsken]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Skargrim wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> TheSpin wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE>Having fully specced in being a melee cleric from the start I couldn't be happier with it.  I haven't gauged my dps against other priest classes...I'd guess we're the best priest dps against a single target with battle spec.  I'm up to par on dps with most fighter classes, plus I can heal well.  </BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>I was under the impression that Inquisitors had the lowest DPS of the healers? I'm fairly new to the game though so am likely to be off target with this. How do Inquisitors compare to Defilers for DPS/Utility?</P> <P>I'm looking for a class that I can solo with but also jump into guild group to heal when we're short of a healer.</P> <P> </P> <P> </P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>At the moment, by inqy far outdpses my defiler (But I havent finished respeccing my defiler for dps, sooo... <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> ).<BR>The defiler feels like he has more utility though (Better have, spending twice as long buffing should [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] well be worth it!)</P>

[RedFeather]

I think the question of what a priest's dps is, is really dependent on the target. If the target uses lots of CAs against an inquisitor the reactive damage spells we have can make a big difference.I still play a game called Guild Wars, so I'm starting to draw from things I've learned in that game. There are several professions in the game where the dps they are capable of depends on the situation and the enemy they are fighting. An elementalist is the highest dps against groups with average AL, but I found the mesmer had the best dps against targets with very AL that matched the type of skills the mesmer had with them.I'm guessing that Everquest 2 is similar in that an inquisitor has better dps against a single melee type target than a defiler would?I dont' know very much about all the different types of mobs and priests to know what each ones ideal target in fights is.<div></div>

[Norrsken]

<div><blockquote><hr>RedFeather1975 wrote:I think the question of what a priest's dps is, is really dependent on the target. If the target uses lots of CAs against an inquisitor the reactive damage spells we have can make a big difference.I still play a game called Guild Wars, so I'm starting to draw from things I've learned in that game. There are several professions in the game where the dps they are capable of depends on the situation and the enemy they are fighting. An elementalist is the highest dps against groups with average AL, but I found the mesmer had the best dps against targets with very AL that matched the type of skills the mesmer had with them.I'm guessing that Everquest 2 is similar in that an inquisitor has better dps against a single melee type target than a defiler would?I dont' know very much about all the different types of mobs and priests to know what each ones ideal target in fights is.<div></div><hr></blockquote>the large chunk of my dps as an inqy atm comes from CA and 100% crits, and a big hammer. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> So I do the same damage to most mobs.When facing a well geared tank in pvp, I t takes 4 rounds of CAs to drop them, whereas a scout goes down in 2.</div>

[TheSpin]

<P>Inquisitors are probably the best dps priests against a single target.</P> <P>All I use in most solo situations is my reactive heals and my combat arts.  Anything else and it is probably not worth the power/time it takes to cast.</P>