So help me out here, has inquisitors dps improved with KOS ?

[AODNai]

<DIV>Hello,</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I havent played the game for awile, i have a lvl 50 Inquisitor. Has the Inqusitors dps impoved ? i quit playing eq2 becuse i could not solo quest or just hunt some blue mobs when i was waiting for a group.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I hear that there is a light in the tunnel with the new aa's with KOS ?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks</DIV>

[The-Fourm-Pirate]

If inquisitor DPS was what you wanted, you got it. We can get up to 100% melee crit, a 40% melee proc, a few new AA combat arts and we can convert our nukes into CAs, so we can get 100% crit on them.

[AODNai]

wow sounds very intressting, thanks

[Wanders]

<DIV>Inquisitors do awesome dps. We can take blue heroic nameds down solo.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I have found the following KOS AA's buildup to be the most effective for me:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>4-4-8 in STA, STR and AGI lines.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>This will give you 100% critical melee attack.</DIV> <DIV>This will give you 40% added DPS modifier.</DIV> <DIV>This will give you a 40% proc that interupts and do damage.</DIV> <DIV>Yalp (the first AA) will give 20% DPS and 20% haste, and (10 or 20 - cant remember)% double attack</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Combined with my 2-handed staff I can do some serious damage, with pure auto attack melee damage. (I use a staff with 108 Damage rating from AoAx2) - I parse around the bards and enchanters on our raids (zone wide), where I use fanatism on trash and do dps, and stay at max range on most named encounters, just healing and debuffing. In instance groups, I am often doing top dps, if I'm 2nd healer - and at the same time add tons of dps the rest of the groupmembers.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>When you start getting EoF AA's you will be able to do even better - with AA abilities like Battlepriest and Enhanced Fanatism without the stifle. Most of the EoF AA tree is centered around more dps to us. (Which you already know if you read some posts in this forum) - I like it, but some people think we are broken and what not. We can still heal very well, but there is no doubt that we really shine if we are a 2nd healer in a group.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>But until you get some AA's to distribute, its not gonna be funny to solo.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Rillek, 70 Inquisitor of Guk</DIV>

[Avirodar]

<DIV>Inquisitors do not do "top DPS", we simply have -some- DPS. We're quite a way behind druids, and the shamans can pump some out some DPS with this expansion as well. Being able to solo blue heroics is nothing new, mob pending. And mob pending, yes, we can do it.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If an Inquisitor is parsing the same as an Enchanter on raids (who should be doing zone wides of 900+) at this point of time, either the Enchanter is slacking horribly, or I call bs. Doing the same DPS as bards is not much to write home about... (But still fun to give the bard lip if you beat them on a zone wide, they hate it)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Taking 4/4/8 in the KoS AAs on Str/Agi/Sta lines is great if you want to be a casual instance runner, or a buffer that needs to be put in with another healer who spec'd for healing to raid. It's not so great if your guild intends to raid EoF successfuly.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So I guess it depends on the stage of the game you are at, and how far you intend to go on the raid scene. Over time, some high end raiding Inq's have made scathing comments about Inq's who spec for DPS and neglect healing enhancements. I think its great, more power to them, if it's what makes them happy, it is good thing.   I am just glad they did not make the decision for my AAs.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>But ultimately, and in fair question... If you wanted a solo-competent class, why would you choose a healer? If you want great DPS, why not make a scout, summoner, or sorcerer? Sacrificing what you're meant to be, for a little bit of something that you're not, seems hollow.</DIV>

[Bayler_x]

<div><blockquote><hr>Trinral wrote:<div>Inquisitors do not do "top DPS", we simply have -some- DPS. We're quite a way behind druids, and the shamans can pump some out some DPS with this expansion as well. Being able to solo blue heroics is nothing new, mob pending. And mob pending, yes, we can do it.</div> <div> </div> <div>If an Inquisitor is parsing the same as an Enchanter on raids (who should be doing zone wides of 900+) at this point of time, either the Enchanter is slacking horribly, or I call bs. Doing the same DPS as bards is not much to write home about... (But still fun to give the bard lip if you beat them on a zone wide, they hate it)</div> <div> </div> <div>Taking 4/4/8 in the KoS AAs on Str/Agi/Sta lines is great if you want to be a casual instance runner, or a buffer that needs to be put in with another healer who spec'd for healing to raid. It's not so great if your guild intends to raid EoF successfuly.</div> <div> </div> <div>So I guess it depends on the stage of the game you are at, and how far you intend to go on the raid scene. Over time, some high end raiding Inq's have made scathing comments about Inq's who spec for DPS and neglect healing enhancements. I think its great, more power to them, if it's what makes them happy, it is good thing.   I am just glad they did not make the decision for my AAs.</div> <div> </div> <div>But ultimately, and in fair question... If you wanted a solo-competent class, why would you choose a healer? If you want great DPS, why not make a scout, summoner, or sorcerer? Sacrificing what you're meant to be, for a little bit of something that you're not, seems hollow.</div><hr></blockquote>The nice thing about achievements is that we do have meaningful options on how to enhance our characters' abilities.As for "sacrificing what you're meant to be, for a little bit of something that you're not":  If you look at the achievement costs and benefits, you'll find that for the same number of points, you get very small extra benefits for trying to improve your healing, whereas you get large benefits for trying to improve the areas where inquisitors are traditionally poor.  That's by design.  You have the option to become a little bit better at healing, or a lot better at other things.Personally, I am a raid healer (and always in the MT group, too, since we can't team up with Templars on PVP servers).  But I'm also a group healer, and a solo healer, and a PVPer.  My achievement choices are fairly balanced between those rolls.  Maybe some day certain raid content won't be available to my alliance due to my choices, but in the mean time, I'm enjoying raiding *and* all the other aspects of the game.</div>

[Robbpilot]

<P>The bad thing about this is that if you want to do decent DPS, you have to diminish your healing ability.  You also don't get that DPS until you have a substantial amount of AA points accrued.  Further, if you want to do best DPS, you would equip vanguard instead of plate to increase your STR, which would lower your WIS, which would further diminish your healing.  So, if you [Removed for Content] your healing, you can attain a DPS that is still lower than other healers who already outheal you.  This doesn't sound like such a good deal to me... that's why I'm playing my other toons mostly now.   When I want to heal, I log onto my inquisitor, who is geared and skilled as a healer.  Needless to say, his melee DPS is pathetic since the expansion hit.</P> <P> </P>

[sunyata39]

<div><blockquote><hr>Robbpilot wrote:<div></div> <p> Needless to say, his melee DPS is pathetic since the expansion hit.</p> <p>-----</p><p></p>I must be missing something, how did expansion decrease inquis dps?</blockquote></div>

[Avirodar]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <P></P> <HR> <P>Bayler_xev wrote:</P> <P>The nice thing about achievements is that we do have meaningful options on how to enhance our characters' abilities.<BR><BR>As for "sacrificing what you're meant to be, for a little bit of something that you're not":  If you look at the achievement costs and benefits, you'll find that for the same number of points, you get very small extra benefits for trying to improve your healing, whereas you get large benefits for trying to improve the areas where inquisitors are traditionally poor.  That's by design.  You have the option to become a little bit better at healing, or a lot better at other things.<BR><BR></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>It more or less comes back to what I said in my prior post. If you want to play a healer, play a healer. If you want to play a DPS, play a DPS. Templars and Inquisitors have never had significantly strong DPS, because it's meant to be our job/design to heal. (Albeit, KoS AA lines and the inclusion of high avedam 2 handers can add some DPS, but personally, I dont see why it was neccessary)</P> <P>There are some decent AA's in the Inquisitor tree for people who are unguilded or smaller guild casual players, or raiding Inquisitors who do not raid the new EoF content.  For Inquisitors trying to raid the new EoF content, the new AAs are primarily a combination of broken and/or useless. For casual non-raiding players, it can take an awful lot of time to accumulate 80+ AAs, making them semi-redundant. For guilds that do not persue much of the new EoF content, fair enough, I guess they dont need their healers to heal the best they can heal...</P> <P>90% (or more) of Inquisitors  that get 100 AAs over the first couple/few months are going to be the raiders. What is sad, is there is very little in the way of EoF AA that will help for raids that are not already on farm status / cruise control. From my perspective, I did not want any "EoF AA help" to kill the same old trash that has been dying with ease over the last 7-8 months. I wanted "EoF AA help" for coping with the new tough EoF stuff, and sadly, that help is absent aside from relatively minor upgrades to a couple of debuffs. That is why I do not regard my choices as meaningful. They do not cater to EoF raiding Inquisitors (which I am).</P> <P>- Avirodar, 70 Inquisitor of Dissolution, Nektulos Server.</P>

[TheSpin]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Trinral wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <P>For casual non-raiding players, it can take an awful lot of time to accumulate 80+ AAs, making them semi-redundant. For guilds that do not persue much of the new EoF content, fair enough, I guess they dont need their healers to heal the best they can heal...90% (or more) of Inquisitors  that get 100 AAs over the first couple/few months are going to be the raiders. </P></BLOCKQUOTE> <P>- Avirodar, 70 Inquisitor of Dissolution, Nektulos Server.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>I seem to be quoting, or responding to a lot of your posts lately Trinral.  I don't mean any offense and am just offering a second opinion and am trying to be constructive, please take no offense.</P> <P>While I'll keep my feelings on the rest of your post to myself, I do have to say that this is a very false statement.  AA experience is not best gained by raiding end game content.  AA is best earned by doing quests that are of appropriate level, and that can start as early as level 10.  I rolled my inquisitor on Nov. 17, just a few days after EoF came out.  He is level 59 and has 82 AA and it's because I've taken time to quest with him.  Even a level 70 player has the option of mentoring other players and joining them for lower level quests and recieving AA for them.</P> <P>I agree that AA can be earned on raids very quickly, but to say that is the 'best' way to earn aa is just not true.  I'll easily have all 100 aa by the time I hit 70.<BR></P>

[ericshaitan]

<blockquote><hr>TheSpin wrote:<div></div> <blockquote> <hr> Trinral wrote: <div></div> <blockquote> <p>For casual non-raiding players, it can take an awful lot of time to accumulate 80+ AAs, making them semi-redundant. For guilds that do not persue much of the new EoF content, fair enough, I guess they dont need their healers to heal the best they can heal...90% (or more) of Inquisitors  that get 100 AAs over the first couple/few months are going to be the raiders. </p></blockquote> <p>- Avirodar, 70 Inquisitor of Dissolution, Nektulos Server.</p> <hr> </blockquote> <p>I seem to be quoting, or responding to a lot of your posts lately Trinral.  I don't mean any offense and am just offering a second opinion and am trying to be constructive, please take no offense.</p> <p>While I'll keep my feelings on the rest of your post to myself, I do have to say that this is a very false statement.  AA experience is not best gained by raiding end game content.  AA is best earned by doing quests that are of appropriate level, and that can start as early as level 10.  I rolled my inquisitor on Nov. 17, just a few days after EoF came out.  He is level 59 and has 82 AA and it's because I've taken time to quest with him.  Even a level 70 player has the option of mentoring other players and joining them for lower level quests and recieving AA for them.</p> <p>I agree that AA can be earned on raids very quickly, but to say that is the 'best' way to earn aa is just not true.  I'll easily have all 100 aa by the time I hit 70.</p><hr></blockquote>I'll agree with that one.  The quickest way to get AAs is by mentoring and killing named or by doing quests.  Something the casual non-raider can do easily.  Can anyone say collection quests FTW?<div></div>