View Full Version : Is Inquisitor a good duo choice?
DoomWaffle
10-14-2006, 04:00 PM
<DIV>Hi all.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'm fairly new to Everquest2 and my highest character is 27. My brother and I want to start a duo up so we can level and quest together. He has selected Bruiser and at first I chose Defiler.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The bruiser is lapping things up, but occasionally gets spike damage (likely unlucky hits past his massive dodge chance) and my defiler's heals cant keep up with it. It doesnt help much when im also killing myself to keep him alive when i might get aggro!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Defiler also doesnt seem to help at all in encounter battles. We are only level 14 at the moment, but I have nothing that affects an encounter except a 5 minute recast fear spell. My debuffs dont seem to do much <img src="/smilies/1cfd6e2a9a2c0cf8e74b49b35e2e46c7.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Can some inquisitors come forward and reveal the advantages and disadvantages of the class? If any of you have duo experience could you help me out? Thanks!</DIV>
You should be fine with inquisitor, though I prefer to heal plate tanks because they take less damage so it's easier to keep them green with reactives and direct heals. The dps buff should be very helpful on the bruiser.<div></div>
Baynne
10-14-2006, 07:58 PM
bruiser/defiler duo i have heard rocks. i havent played it myself but the reasonig behind it mostly is the wards. the bruiser doesn't get hit as much as other tanks due to high avoidance, but when they do get hit they really feel it. this being the case, wards are more effective at mitigating the damage then a regen or reactive heal would be. that and you can seriously debilitate enemies. take a look at the spell list and see what you get later on. inquisitor is really good for a plate tank like a berserker because the reactives can better heal the lesser damage taken due to higher mitigation. and druids are good healers for crusaders because both classes in that duo can heal and/or ward. lvl 14 is really low to judge the effectiveness of your class. however if you are not having fun perhaps change is in order. i wish you best of luck with your duo.<div></div>
DoomWaffle
10-14-2006, 10:01 PM
<DIV>Aye i was thinking about the Wards. Do the shaman rely heavily on the wards as barriers so they can get their heals off? Or are they powerful enough later on to use them above healing at all?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I choose defiler because I played shaman in EQ1, and enjoyed the versitality of the class. Clearly it has been divided into two in EQ2, with the mystic taking the healing/buffing side, and the Defiler the debuff/DoT side! (i want em all!)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I think I'll get to 20 and beyond before I make another judgement, then I have my doggy pet and in combat regeneration, which will be helpful for those damage heals!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks for input so far <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>
GuardianKing
10-15-2006, 12:35 AM
Being able to Debuff the Cr@p out of stiff while Keeping mob from Damaging your Bruiser bud is keen. <div></div>
Baynne
10-15-2006, 04:45 AM
wards and debuffs are primary mitigations that reduce the need to cast an actual heal. shaman heals are not very efficient so it is better to block the damage altogether. <div></div>
BlackFlowe
10-15-2006, 11:50 AM
Yeah, Inquis and a Bruiser can duo just fine. Instead of a single target reactive, you'll want to use 'instant heals' when the damage spikes occur. The single or group reactive can give you a little buffer to keep the tank alive there if things get nasty, but overall it doesn't mix with that style of tanking (high avoidance, not so high mitigation of damage). <blockquote><hr>DoomWaffle wrote: <div>Hi all.</div> <div> </div> <div>The bruiser is lapping things up, but occasionally gets spike damage (likely unlucky hits past his massive dodge chance) and my defiler's heals cant keep up with it. It doesnt help much when im also killing myself to keep him alive when i might get aggro!</div> <div> </div> <div>Defiler also doesnt seem to help at all in encounter battles. We are only level 14 at the moment, but I have nothing that affects an encounter except a 5 minute recast fear spell. My debuffs dont seem to do much <img src="/smilies/1cfd6e2a9a2c0cf8e74b49b35e2e46c7.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div> <hr></blockquote>
Owwiee
10-15-2006, 06:43 PM
I started out Duoing a Brigand/Fury but quickly learned I hated the Fury. I am now working an Inq up (58 ATM) and is so much easier. The Inq can take a few hits if I get an add and I don't have to worry about him folding after one hit. He never runs OOP and the debuffs and Dmg are nice.
jago quicksilver
10-15-2006, 10:17 PM
at level 14 a defiler is not a very good class, dont have any of your really good wards yet, which are without a doubt the best in the game. Clerics dont really go well with brawlers at all in my opinion, because they depend on a class taking damage to heal them with their reactives. Since a Brawler wears leather, every time they get hit it is gonna be for more than a plate class, making reactives very uneffective. i would stick with the Defiler, or go with a fury, those 2 classes would fit the dup best, with fury being the best, because their HoTs dont depend on a person getting hit, and they can do some good damage, making it easier on the duo overall.
LokiHellsson
10-16-2006, 10:37 PM
<DIV>The fury heals better and delivers far more DPS. The DPS vs. groups is especially notable when he reaches level 55 and gets Ring of Fire. He also brings a decent group invis to the party, so you don't have to spend time/money on chameleon totems for all the tanks and clerics and shamans.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The fury has lower mitigation. He doesn't debuff mob output. He doesn't have Chilling Inquest, so he doesn't proc power drains.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I've run an inquisitor to 70 and a Fury to 62. The Fury is far better when it comes to name-farming in RoV, RE, OOLS, and SoS because of the DPS and the group Invis. The Inquisitor is just not able to keep up. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>In a raid, my Inquisitor heals at a lower rate (according to the raid-wide parse) than the Fury and does a lot lower DPS. The top healers in our guild might be doing 36K healing while my Inquisitor is lucky to top 20K in the same encounter. The fury will be over 30K. And that Fury is 8 levels lower and doesn't have the T7 heals Ad3'd/Mastered that my Inquisitor has. Oh, and my Inquisitor's wearing 3 fabled t7 pieces on the left side, a fabled t6 weapon and the rest of the gear is t7 legendary or t7 mastercrafted. The Fury is nowhere near so well equipped.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So, if you're duo-ing or raiding, run a Fury. All the rest of the healers are just silly except for some narrowly defined situations.-+</DIV>
jago quicksilver
10-17-2006, 01:10 AM
a raid needs more than just 1 type of healer.also, furies only really heal better ni big AE battles, and when they are grouped by themselves. their Group HoTs+ hibernation is an unrivaled force when getting a group back to full.
scivias
10-17-2006, 09:58 AM
<div></div><div><blockquote><hr>LokiHellsson wrote:<div> </div> <div><i>I've run an inquisitor to 70 and a Fury to 62. The Fury is far better when it comes to name-farming in RoV, RE, OOLS, and SoS because of the DPS and the group Invis. The Inquisitor is just not able to keep up. </i></div> <div><i> </i></div> <div><i>In a raid, my Inquisitor heals at a lower rate (according to the raid-wide parse) than the Fury and does a lot lower DPS. </i><font color="#ffff00">Out of curiosity, you havn't gone the dps-associated AA lines with your inquisitor, right? Cause honestly, there is no fury on my server I havn't beaten dpswise or in pvp, which by all means shouldn't be possible, if what you claim is true. </font><font color="#ffff00"></font><font color="#ffff00">When you have the gear and know your class dps is, in most cases without larger groups of mobs, rather higher than furies, especially since you don't have to spam you heals, and don't run out of power quite so far.</font><font color="#ffff00"></font><i>The top healers in our guild might be doing 36K healing while my Inquisitor is lucky to top 20K in the same encounter. The fury will be over 30K. And that Fury is 8 levels lower and doesn't have the T7 heals Ad3'd/Mastered that my Inquisitor has. </i> </div><font color="#ffff00">Now that's just crap <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> In a good Raidsituation you just can't beat a shaman/cleric, especially if they're in the "fat kid"-group.. but since you seem to take chars lvl 62 with you, I guess you do more like fun-raiding then real raiding .. I've never ever seen a druid outheal a shaman / cleric zonewide in a real raidsetup <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></font><hr></blockquote></div><p>Message Edited by scivias on <span class=date_text>10-16-2006</span> <span class=time_text>10:58 PM</span>
Facedown
10-19-2006, 03:35 PM
Bruiser + Defiler combo will always out last bruiser/inquisitor at 70. Defilers really dont come into their own until low 30's. By then, you can duo what most groups of 6 can do fairly easily. Later on the wards are enough to let the bruiser not ever get hit.Though you are right, defilers lack ae group encounter abilities but our single target debuffs are uber. <div></div>
Kelson
10-20-2006, 12:10 AM
<P>I see that you don't think your debuffs are all that great on your Defiler. I have high 30s Defiler and his debuffs rock! Just give it time. We do get an AoE disease debuff and a buff you can put on the Bruiser that can proc a DPS debuff on anything that hits him. It's not technically an AoE debuff, but in effect it works like one and you don't have to recast it. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Defilers have enough debuffs to turn a single target into a drooling infant in short order. If it's a group of heroics, it can be a challenge to keep all the debuffs up on everything, though.</P> <P>Also the wards are very VERY nice, especially for a Brawler, as others have said.</P> <P>Here's something that hasn't been mentioned about Defilers yet: their instant heals are awesome! Since they take a combination of health and power to cast, you can use them more often without going out of power. Also, your wraith form gives you a nice in combat health regen that offsets the health component of your heals, so you basically get to heal very cheaply! (Note that your instant heals are pretty much the same as Templar instant heals, but just cost about half the power since you also spend about half the power cost in health to cast them). Defilers are VERY efficient instant healers. Also, later on in the game, Defilers can power tap groups of mobs to gain power for their group.</P> <P>So, I think your Defiler will do quite well. Now, I don't think an Inquisitor is a bad choice, either. Your reactives (your main heal types as a Cleric) won't work as well for a Brawler as stated above, but you do get some nice DPS buffs that would work wonders for your Brawler's DPS, as well as proc buffs and some debuffs and DoTs. I haven't played an Inquisitor yet, but he's next on my alt list to create <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I'm sure either would work well and have good synergy (with the exception of the reactives not working ideally).</P>
Spider
10-21-2006, 06:33 AM
<P>yer bro shoulda have gone with zerker </P> <P>an inquis,zerkeeer duo owns </P> <P>good zerker with a good 2 hnder for dps and sword and board for the hard hitting stuff and an inquis to debuff and heal </P> <P>my friend and i duo'd like this for quite some time </P>
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