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jago quicksilver
08-31-2006, 01:13 AM
<div></div> Ok, i know that we wear plate and all that good stuff, but lately i've been thinking about grabbing one of the Chitinous leather Tunics from MO for more power regen, since we have so many hostile spells. its a kinda big hit in mitigation, but i think that the extra power would be worth it. im trying to compile a set of gear that will make me literally have infinite power, and this would be a really strong piece to it. anyone think that wearing leather for a proc like this is stupid?here is a pic of said tunic for those of you who dont know what it is.<img src="http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h129/Arozi/EQ2_000111.jpg"><div></div><p>Message Edited by jago quicksilver on <span class=date_text>08-30-2006</span> <span class=time_text>02:14 PM</span>
ericshaitan
08-31-2006, 01:27 AM
<div></div>Nothing wrong with using leather. I currently have 2 Plate helms, one relic, and I still use this leather due to the stats. And again There are not many good bracers in the game besides relic so right now these leather ones are my current choice over blackcoat. Remeber you shouldn't be tanking. Just look at the stats vs. mit. if they are far enough apart for you, go for it. I mean come on.... How many of us worn GEBs for 2 years? <img src="http://img175.imageshack.us/img175/5709/leatheroe2.jpg">
Audabon
08-31-2006, 01:31 AM
<P>honestly you would be better off buying a stack or two of the grandmasters potions.. Grandmasters essence of Clarity, +56 POW every 5 sec for 30 sec....recast is 2min 45sec and it's IN-COMBAT regen... keep your mit on the plate and keep some of these on hand. theres two kinds clarity and power.. power is an instant one.</P> <P>We arent DROOODS. </P> <P>We wear plate proudly <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P>
jago quicksilver
08-31-2006, 01:38 AM
i always use clarity potions, hearts/wood from summoners, manastone, that lame helm from scaleborn, my spiritise censor, Stein of the everling overlord, vessel of fyr'un, and the Signet of replenishment, though i only use them when needed. if our class can use it, i do. i just want enough power proccing armor (along with chilling inquest) to never have to even worry about mana, with the 3 pieces that i know of that we can get from t7 raids, i think that along with chilling inquest, i can proc so much power i can never have to worry about FT or any power regen items ever again. well, at least until level cap is raised.
Audabon
08-31-2006, 05:28 PM
yeah i 2box my necro and inquisiter and the ruiny hearts are enough to keep my lizard going as things bash on my pet. I use the potions if im in a hardcore group or t6 raiding.. havent had an issue raiding in courts or when we did lockjaw so its all good <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> (Litany of Anguish M1 dropped for me in courts too<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> )
jago quicksilver
08-31-2006, 08:35 PM
yeah, t6 zones arent bad, but when you have a 6-8 minute fight things could get ugly depending on how much damage peple are taking.<div></div>
Power has never been a problem for me either, and I'm constantly debuffing, dotting, and nuking when I'm not healing. Chilling Inquest is one of my favorite spells! I also use <IMG src="http://images19.fotki.com/v22/photos/8/876498/3421217/mapcapcuirass-vi.jpg">and <IMG src="http://images19.fotki.com/v22/photos/8/876498/3421217/HonorofPantrilla-vi.jpg">
Shailen
09-21-2006, 07:12 PM
<P>between the FT7 on the blackcoat shoulders, and the FT7 wrist item, and the honor of pantrilla, power generally isn't a problem for me. I also have boots of the devout, the relic helm, the madcap curais, and the FT3 forearms out of nizara. Add in the pris2.0 and I can hit the item regen cap pretty easily (0.75 x level). Power tends not to be a problem. Most of the time I usually raid with just the shoulders, wrist, boots, pris 2 and honor.</P> <P>All this while keeping convert up ever minute of every raid.</P> <P>I carry a lot of alternate gear on me for PvP, but I still try to avoid downtiering if at all possible. There is a TON of good cleric gear, one proc probably isn't worth downtiering. Then again if you're on a blue server and you can get the item, there's really no reason not to just keep it around in case.</P>
Allowin
09-22-2006, 05:21 PM
have a brigand or swashy in your group and you will never run out of power....chilling inquest ftw!!!<div></div>
Shailen
09-22-2006, 06:04 PM
<div><blockquote><hr>Allowin wrote:have a brigand or swashy in your group and you will never run out of power....chilling inquest ftw!!!<div></div><hr></blockquote>Inquest is definately great, but by itself I find I can't maintain convert 24/7. I need a very sizable chunk of in combat regen gear on top of it. Together though the power regen makes it possible to keep convert up almost all the time and that ups our healing output significantly.</div>
Spider
09-23-2006, 01:05 AM
if your that short on power then your wis is WAY too low
Cepheus80
09-23-2006, 07:55 AM
<P align=left>You should get the hammer from the 3 Princes encounter as well imo. It has a power proc similar to this one. I guess i should also mention that chilling inquest (pain of confession) counts as a hostile spell. Sooo yea, whoever you put the proc on has a chance to proc you power from weapons/armor like these as well =). Neat huh?</P> <P align=left> </P> <P align=left>Gregos 70 Inquisitor -Nagafen server </P> <P align=left>Rigel 70 Inquisitor- Kithicor server </P> <P> </P> <P> </P> <P> </P><p>Message Edited by Cepheus80 on <span class=date_text>09-22-2006</span> <span class=time_text>09:05 PM</span>
Shailen
09-23-2006, 08:07 PM
<div><blockquote><hr>lspiderl wrote:<div></div>if your that short on power then your wis is WAY too low<hr></blockquote>my power in my most common raid gear is 5439. I can get it higher, but thats balancing resists and a few procing items.Power is NOT an issue for me in that set up. However, when PvPing I often spec out most of my FT gear for better mit/resists. Since PvP fights don't last as long and the defense is more important. I know that on these fights, if they go long and I have convert up, inquest itself isn't enough. I run out of power much faster than I would in a comparable raid fight (where I can go 3,4,5 minutes without running out of power).</div>
Spider
09-23-2006, 10:23 PM
<DIV>ok mind u im lvl 45 ( just got it last night woot) im in all ebon (vangard for the extra agi ) and all ruby wis/int jewelery </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>now in a pvp fight unless it goes WAY long i almsot NEVER run out of power </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>they thing is knowing when to use what u cant just spam all ur stuff and hope for the best your not a brigand or assasin </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>its not about skill mashing get ur reactive up and recast only at half health when it does the most for ya </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>get of fyour reverse damage shields and recast whenever they drop </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>use your all damage mitigation debuff and your heat dot/divine debuff ( keep that on them as well) while bangin on them with a good 2 hnder while running yaulp and your dps buff ( right now i got a total 43 % dps 20 % haste 20 % to double attack </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>and either your will win or you will loose (dependant mostly on timing and interupts ) but u will win a LOT more than u loose </DIV> <DIV>and while there are exceptions to this this is the primary way u will need to handle most pvp solo or duo on an inquis </DIV>
Shailen
09-25-2006, 05:17 PM
<div><blockquote><hr>lspiderl wrote:<div>ok mind u im lvl 45 ( just got it last night woot) im in all ebon (vangard for the extra agi ) and all ruby wis/int jewelery </div> <div> </div> <div>now in a pvp fight unless it goes WAY long i almsot NEVER run out of power </div> <div> </div> <div>they thing is knowing when to use what u cant just spam all ur stuff and hope for the best your not a brigand or assasin </div> <div> </div> <div>its not about skill mashing get ur reactive up and recast only at half health when it does the most for ya </div> <div> </div> <div>get of fyour reverse damage shields and recast whenever they drop </div> <div> </div> <div>use your all damage mitigation debuff and your heat dot/divine debuff ( keep that on them as well) while bangin on them with a good 2 hnder while running yaulp and your dps buff ( right now i got a total 43 % dps 20 % haste 20 % to double attack </div> <div> </div> <div>and either your will win or you will loose (dependant mostly on timing and interupts ) but u will win a LOT more than u loose </div> <div>and while there are exceptions to this this is the primary way u will need to handle most pvp solo or duo on an inquis </div><hr></blockquote>On the high end, I've found that the "banging on them with a 2hnder" is far more of a liability than a benefit.That plays right into most classes style for fighting you. I'd rather use a shield. The one from QC adds 142 mit and has resists across the board. I definately turn melee on, so I get some hits when the person gets in close, but I only when them coming in to hit me once I have at least vengeance and repentance on them. Just because we can take hits, doesn't mean we should be trying to get hit. We can do plenty of ranged DPS, use that to your advantage.If its a mage I'll drop the shield for a 2hander (I keep it hotbarred), because there it does make sense to get in and do the extra DPS. Most mages drop very fast with the extra damage and they won't be hitting you in melee.If its a priest its a 50-50 call on the 2 hander. Most priest fights turn into a power competition and the FT14 on the pris2 is nice during those. Use heresy to up your spell DPS, and try to keep them on the defensive burning power. Get in and melee with a fast proccing weapon to try to get power drains off.I'm sure there's other ways to do this, but in straight up 1v1 I'm about 25-2. I've also had plenty of 2-1s against lower cons (greens mostly) that I also won.</div>
Bayler_x
09-25-2006, 05:35 PM
<div><blockquote><hr>lspiderl wrote:<div>ok mind u im lvl 45 ( just got it last night woot) im in all ebon (vangard for the extra agi ) and all ruby wis/int jewelery </div> <div> </div> <div>now in a pvp fight unless it goes WAY long i almsot NEVER run out of power </div> <div> </div> <div>they thing is knowing when to use what u cant just spam all ur stuff and hope for the best your not a brigand or assasin </div> <div> </div> <div>its not about skill mashing get ur reactive up and recast only at half health when it does the most for ya </div> <div> </div> <div>get of fyour reverse damage shields and recast whenever they drop </div> <div> </div> <div>use your all damage mitigation debuff and your heat dot/divine debuff ( keep that on them as well) while bangin on them with a good 2 hnder while running yaulp and your dps buff ( right now i got a total 43 % dps 20 % haste 20 % to double attack </div> <div> </div> <div>and either your will win or you will loose (dependant mostly on timing and interupts ) but u will win a LOT more than u loose </div> <div>and while there are exceptions to this this is the primary way u will need to handle most pvp solo or duo on an inquis </div><hr></blockquote>Meiling -You make a lot of posts telling people how they should be playing and how easy it is to win if they do this and that. And your insights are generally pretty good for the low and middle levels. But please recognize that the game changes in the higher levels. So accusing veterans like Shailon of mindless button mashing and poor gear choices is fairly inappropriate.By all means, keep participating in the discussions. We do want to hear what you have to say. But please don't be so quick contradict and belittle the other members of the community - especially when they're talking about situations with which you have no experience.</div>
utkCREW
09-25-2006, 07:02 PM
<FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#ff9900 size=2>I'm a snobish plate wearer, but if the effects on things are fairly amazing, then I don't have a problem switching to a lighter armor type, but I don't like [Removed for Content] off my chain and leather healer friends by outbiding them in the dkp for THEIR armor type.</FONT>
Shailen
09-26-2006, 01:03 AM
<div><blockquote><hr>Bayler_xev wrote:<div><blockquote><hr>lspiderl wrote:<div>ok mind u im lvl 45 ( just got it last night woot) im in all ebon (vangard for the extra agi ) and all ruby wis/int jewelery </div> <div> </div> <div>now in a pvp fight unless it goes WAY long i almsot NEVER run out of power </div> <div> </div> <div>they thing is knowing when to use what u cant just spam all ur stuff and hope for the best your not a brigand or assasin </div> <div> </div> <div>its not about skill mashing get ur reactive up and recast only at half health when it does the most for ya </div> <div> </div> <div>get of fyour reverse damage shields and recast whenever they drop </div> <div> </div> <div>use your all damage mitigation debuff and your heat dot/divine debuff ( keep that on them as well) while bangin on them with a good 2 hnder while running yaulp and your dps buff ( right now i got a total 43 % dps 20 % haste 20 % to double attack </div> <div> </div> <div>and either your will win or you will loose (dependant mostly on timing and interupts ) but u will win a LOT more than u loose </div> <div>and while there are exceptions to this this is the primary way u will need to handle most pvp solo or duo on an inquis </div><hr></blockquote>Meiling -You make a lot of posts telling people how they should be playing and how easy it is to win if they do this and that. And your insights are generally pretty good for the low and middle levels. But please recognize that the game changes in the higher levels. So accusing veterans like Shailon of mindless button mashing and poor gear choices is fairly inappropriate.By all means, keep participating in the discussions. We do want to hear what you have to say. But please don't be so quick contradict and belittle the other members of the community - especially when they're talking about situations with which you have no experience.</div><hr></blockquote>I think you may have just read it a little differently. I didn't really read it as him being hostile. I mean he says at the begining he's only level 45, so things much change.I can't really recall much about level 45, but I know as I leveled solo PvP becomes easier.</div>
The-Fourm-Pirate
09-27-2006, 05:40 AM
I'd say go with whatever floats your boat, in raiding plate only means you last a few seconds longer, and you only have that issue if you're pulling aggro. And I have no problem spamming heals to death with adept 3 harrowing inquest at 51 as long as i have a decent melee dps in my group (yeah, I don't update my sig often).
Echar Elocin
09-27-2006, 10:31 AM
<DIV>i think the helm from roost x2 far outclasses the relic helm Hardrock Barbute its in idb dont feel like posting pic as an alternative and still have decent ft</DIV>
Spider
09-28-2006, 02:45 AM
<P>wasnt meaning to be hostlle in any way just to let u know i just ahve a strait forward way of saying things that sometimes comes across wrong so pls if i say something that may seem hostle just politly let me know and i can clarify </P> <P> </P> <P>ive stated all along that im not lvl 70 only the high 40's range but even with all the gear changes and and addition of one or 2 spells things are mostly the same at this level </P> <P>now if i was still in the low 30's yeah id agree its a completely different game but at this point im at the bottom end of the end game ( currently 46) and ive done a LOT of studding of skills , and armor and such at those levels </P> <P>now some of my insights might be incorrect at times and im gladly proven wroung or shown another way on those things but tht said sometimes what i refer to is correct it just doesnt ahve the same meanings because im on a pvp server</P> <P>when it comes to group things we only have half the classes and we ahve to be ready for fighting other players as well as mobs which is COMPLETELLY differernt set ups from pve and requiers much more flexability </P> <P> </P> <P>also pls pardon my typing skills as i am dislexic and its kinda hard to type in structured sentances and with proper spelling </P>
Robbpilot
10-10-2006, 12:50 AM
<P>Doesn't getting your wisdom as high as possible reduce the relative power cost of healing by increasing the effectiveness of your heals? I've been operating under that premise, looking for armor with good mitigation, but also good wisdom stats. You might end up with better power regen, but having to cast more heals if you let your wisdom slip in your pursuit of regen. If I use inquest on a class that attacks a lot, then it is pretty hard to run out of power as it is. I think that's an advantage we have over some of the other healers who may have more burst healing ability... we can hang in there for a long, long time.</P> <P>The only other thing is that trying to solo in leather would be brutal... so you'd need plate as well unless you are fortunate enough that you never have to solo.</P>
jago quicksilver
10-10-2006, 02:12 AM
<div></div>wisdom increases the power pool of priests, and gives any class resists. nothing more... it doesnt make your heals cost less at all. this only has 2 less wisdom than what my last piece had, and either way i have my wisdom capped.edit: im also looking at this from purely a raid point of view, i dont give a [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] about soloing.<p>Message Edited by jago quicksilver on <span class=date_text>10-09-2006</span> <span class=time_text>03:13 PM</span>
Allowin
10-11-2006, 09:15 PM
<div><blockquote><hr>jago quicksilver wrote:<div></div>i dont give a [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] about soloing.<p>Message Edited by jago quicksilver on <span class="date_text">10-09-2006</span> <span class="time_text">03:13 PM</span></p><hr></blockquote>OMGZ!!!1!one!how dare you talk down about soloing in this game. do you not know this game is geared towards the people who solo...and rightfuly so. why should somebody have to work hard and put the time into joining a raid guild. and put the long hours into raiding and learning the skills to work well in a group. and how to play/deal with other people. to put the time and effort into doing these things so they can aquire the gear to prove they did something?who cares about meeting other people and joining up to go do a quest or explore a zone or instance? why should somebody have to play more than a few hours a week to get uber gear? it so stupid that a solo player should have to camp a named mob to get access to a instance zone, or have to kill a mean heroic mob to get to a new zone or finish a HQ. all those heritage quest that are hard and require you to actually do something and interact with other people in this game to finish is just plain stupid. nobody in this game should have to join forces with another friend to down a foe in combat. its not right that just because you dont have a life and play this game 40+ hours a week that you should get uber gear and master spells and i, only playing 3 hours a week have to settle for legendary or player crafted gear.dang it, im a person too. i should be able to skip all that stupid camping named mobs, and working on quest, joining a raid guild and putting my time in. i, as a solo player, should not have to spend the precious little time i have to play sitting in a zone waiting for a mob to spawn so i can kill him. or having to actually ..../gasp talk to another player in this game. and god forbid i should actually have to join forces with another one of those players to finish a quest or progress towards a zone...the new features in this Eof expansion will be nice. to solo players who dont like to, or wont, group witn people will enjoy this.the new /summon_uberloot command will be usefull to said solo players.after all, this is a msporpg...right?Massive Single Player Online Roll Playing Game/rantoff</div>
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