Inquisitor as my new character... opinions?

[Goddslayer]

Hey, after trying out my friend's warden I'm really interested in starting a healer. I'm very drawn to the healing in EQ2 for some reason. I've always been good at keeping people alive and I did **mods 4 teh win!!1!** well on the druid for only having played him once. After researching all the healers in the game, I decided that I really liked the - debuff and it's easier to heal - aspect. For that it was really only shaman or inquisitor. Though all my friends play in Qeynos, the Templar seems to get shafted compared to you guys, I don't like their spell line one bit. I also just never really liked shamen.So Inquisitor it is. I'd like to know what some of you that have played to the current higher levels think of the class, not just on it's own as a healer but compared to a Templar, or compared to a druid or shaman type. I have the means to get most of my adept 1 spells right now for the character, so I know I can be formidable. I pretty much have my heart set on this character, I just want to hear what the Inquisitor players think of the class so far.

[scorn]

<DIV>If I had to do it again I'ld strongly consider a Drood/Shaman, they seem to be in alot of need where I group.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I also believe Inquisitors got the shaft on healing  -- the 6 second group heal stinks, basicly worthless.  Our single heal over time, and our combat heal are pretty much our bread and butter. Other than that theres not much to talk about.. Abject Blessing doesnt buff like you'd expect. </DIV>

[Mortainio]

<DIV>Do not listen to this disenchanted heritic.  We inquisitors are a very power full and very import part of our Overlords Might.  mind you there are a few spells that have problems but things always change and we have only just started. i my self before this game have never played a healer. i started a inquisitor for the most important reason , because i think they are kool, and i havent been disapointed yet.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>i very much enjoy rooting out and crushing all blasphemers agianst the Overlord.  mind you we heal differnt then what you might think a healer to do. we crush the offensive and defensive ablity of our foes while protecting our slaves...er um faithfull followers . However being the wrathfull lot we are we also are more then happy to expidite any heritics demise with clensing fire and morningstar in hand.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The key is play that wich sounds the most fun and you cant go wrong , the healers if anything are actually rather well balanced. So if you feel like covorting around the woods with other tree loveing, flee infested mongrels , then fine be a druid. If you feel like casting your lot with a bunch of bones tossing , ghost worshiping pagans, fine be a shaman. However none of them will ever compare to the might of the Overlords iron fist that is the Inquisition.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Shat in the H]

<blockquote><hr>scornny wrote:<DIV>If I had to do it again I'ld strongly consider a Drood/Shaman, they seem to be in alot of need where I group.</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>I also believe Inquisitors got the shaft on healing -- the 6 second group heal stinks, basicly worthless. Our single heal over time, and our combat heal are pretty much our bread and butter. Other than that theres not much to talk about.. Abject Blessing doesnt buff like you'd expect. </DIV><hr></blockquote>Have you strongly considered, getting past lvl 20 before giving your baseless opinion?

[scorn]

<DIV>I'm level 33 at time of posting. Please click my name before you make assumptions that I'm <20. </DIV><p>Message Edited by scornny on <span class=date_text>12-12-2004</span> <span class=time_text>05:13 PM</span>

[scorn]

<DIV>I do understand Mortainious' perspective, being a role playing one. Mine was purely based on abilitys given.</DIV>

[Yo]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> scornny wrote:<BR> <DIV>Our single heal over time, and our combat heal are pretty much our bread and butter. Other than that theres not much to talk about <HR> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>LOL</DIV> <DIV>Another Lev 33 Inquisitor that does not know how to play his class.</DIV>

[MacAll]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Yong wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> scornny wrote:<BR> <DIV>Our single heal over time, and our combat heal are pretty much our bread and butter. Other than that theres not much to talk about <HR> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>LOL</DIV> <DIV>Another Lev 33 Inquisitor that does not know how to play his class.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>I love arrogant children.  By definition, if he made it to 33, he knows how to play his class.  He may not play it the way YOU do, but he's not on the "most deaths" list, so obviously he's doing something right.  You're not there, so maybe it's YOU that doesn't know how to play your class?  Lots of assumptions you make there, and you show the truth in the old adage about making assumptions.  He's been your level, but you've never been his, therefore your perspective is inferior to his...bugger off.</P> <P>That said, I do disagree with scomny.  I'm almost lvl 33 (on hold while I catch my crafting up a bit) and, while my healing is as effective as most Templars I've played with, my debuffs and DoT's are viciously effective.  I solo reds regularly, non-stop, without exception or fail, which is something I've not seen other classes be able to do for over 10 levels.  I've stepped into a group that had Templar and defiler/fury healers, replaced BOTH (they had to leave) and allowed the group to pick up an additional dps to move faster through spawns.</P> <P>I can understand him not liking the profession, but that doesn't make it ineffective.  I can't log in without getting 10 /tells to join groups, and that's before my LFG flag even goes on, and it's certainly not because of my personality or popularity :p</P>

[Griza]

<DIV>Ok...what am I doing wrong here?  I will humble myself before my fellow inquisitors and ask them for guidance.  I understand that alot of people have their own way to play...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Currently I am a 23rd lvl Inquisitor 16th lvl Scholar</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I can hold my own in a fight with a good working group, but my solo skills leave something to be desired.  I have finished all AQ's, but can not yet wear my breastplate.  I wield a 2 handed hammer character crafted and got some really good buffs on it..much better than the weapon I was using.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I have Adept 1 for Admonishing Strike, Combat Heal, Inequity (sp), And Adept 3 for SS and BoV, all others are App3</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I guess my question is this...How do I solo these ^^ mobs?  What is it that I am doing wrong?  I eat character food/drink and still run into problems with Mana when Solo'ing.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Ack!  Help <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[MacAll]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Grizart wrote:<BR> <DIV>Ok...what am I doing wrong here?  I will humble myself before my fellow inquisitors and ask them for guidance.  I understand that alot of people have their own way to play...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Currently I am a 23rd lvl Inquisitor 16th lvl Scholar</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I can hold my own in a fight with a good working group, but my solo skills leave something to be desired.  I have finished all AQ's, but can not yet wear my breastplate.  I wield a 2 handed hammer character crafted and got some really good buffs on it..much better than the weapon I was using.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I have Adept 1 for Admonishing Strike, Combat Heal, Inequity (sp), And Adept 3 for SS and BoV, all others are App3</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I guess my question is this...How do I solo these ^^ mobs?  What is it that I am doing wrong?  I eat character food/drink and still run into problems with Mana when Solo'ing.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Ack!  Help <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV>First, you're an Inquisitor, do not humble yourself here or these people will eat you alive.  You want to be humble?  I recommend the Templar forums.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Second, you're lvl 23, so you're doing a great job, don't sweat it.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Last, Inq's really can't solo easily until AQ6 because of AC.  Hit your AQ's, keep your jewelry white to yellow, and use player-made food.  I was unable to solo effectively at all until lvl 25, then suddenly I was VERY effective.  Our smites leave a lot to be desired for dps, as well as our melee, but when you start getting your DoT's (I have 3 at 32) you become a beast <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>As for soloing ^^ mobs, I can't do that either as (I believe) those are group mobs which assume you're in a group of 3 or more folks and they hit like a ton of bricks.  I can solo red solo mobs, but green ^^ group mobs still give me a rough go for it and aren't worth the downtime.  I can take a 25 sec downtime between red solo mobs, but the group mobs leave me totally empty of health and mana, so I tend to just skip them.</DIV>

[Griza]

<DIV>:smileywink: gotcha!  I retract my humbleness and will strike down any of those that speak of it again.  I will remain strong and steadfast for my fellow inquisitors.  Those Templars be damned, I would not join their ranks if they rolled me in honey and hung me from a tree near the kodiaks in NF!  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I appreciate the tips...I have pretty much done everything you suggested except for one small thing....I really need to upgrade my misc inventory...rings/jewlery/etc.  Perhaps it's time for me to hang up my armor for a day or two and craft some items to be sold on the market...then I can afford those items.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>thanks for the opinions!</DIV>

[MacAll]

<DIV>It can seem trivial, but 2 rings + earring, + neck + waist + 2 wrists can be 100's of AC + all the stats they bring.  Make friends with a jeweler and get the latest you can wear, orange stuff preferably, as that will last you the longest.  Once you get to 25, there are a number of really nice drops that will fill in the gaps and keep you from going broke on the stuff, but the player-made jewelry is very nice.</DIV>

[Beribo]

I actually have to agree with Yong.If you base your opinion of the Inquistor class off of the heals we get and compare our heals to other classes then you probably are not playing the class tot he fullest potential. If you say our bread and butter spells are BoV and Combat Heals then you probably are not playing the class to its full potential.As an Inquistor our heals are only part of the complement of spells we get. We get really nice debuffs, which effectively mean you have to heal less, it shocks me how many Inquistor's do not place importance on their debuffs.Its early in the game, so I do expect people to have a huge learning curve. The people I can not stand are the close minded people at this point of the game and think that there is only 1 way to do things. So sick of hearing "We cant do that without a Coercer" /rude; /disband.

[Yo]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <P> <HR> </P> <P>MacAllen wrote:</P> <P>By definition, if he made it to 33, he knows how to play his class.........  but he's not on the "most deaths" list, so obviously he's doing something right. <HR> </P></BLOCKQUOTE> <P>a) Having a high level char doesnt say anything.</P> <P>b) There is no char called "scornny" anywhere... so he is not on any list anyways.</P> <P> </P> <P>But back to topic.</P> <P>Making assumptions about a class by talking about 2 of its spells?<BR>That's way off track.</P> <P>The Inquisitor is NOT the Cleric from EQ1, which most people seem not to understand.</P> <P>Saying that the our "heal over time" (we don't have one... he is talking about BoV which is a reactive heal) and "combat heal" are our bread and butter may be his way to play... but it is NOT our bread and butter.</P> <P>Our "bread and butter" consists of reactive heals, direkt heals, debuffs, dots and so much more.</P> <P>Limiting our class to these two spells is like drinving a Porsche in the first gear only.</P> <P>If he is of the opinion.... he does not know his class. fullstop.</P> <P>There are different ways to play a class, but leaving essential spell lines out of your strategy does not make this way to play a good way.</P> <P>Making it to 33.......... so what. Allways in a group and a backup healer on his side. Whats the difficulty?<BR>BTW I am 24... my char can be found in eq2players... why am I not 33 or higher? Because I am also a crafter at level 28.... so who is making assumptions here MacAllen?<BR></P>

[Gronker]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Yong wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <P> <HR> <P></P> <P>MacAllen wrote:</P> <P>By definition, if he made it to 33, he knows how to play his class.........  but he's not on the "most deaths" list, so obviously he's doing something right. <HR> <P></P></BLOCKQUOTE> <P>a) Having a high level char doesnt say anything.</P> <P> <HR> </P></BLOCKQUOTE> <P>You have to understand that those that reach 'high levels' or access locked 'prestigeous' zones etc will typically belittle those that didn't to somehow show that their time was well-spent.  Having a high level char does say you've played the game for quite a while - could be a long while if you are lousy and have died alot.  But playing 24/7 will eventually get you to that level as EQ2, much like EQ1, is "level proportional to time played".  And when one spends that much time with that great density, they often feel the need to 'reward' themselves with indisputable arguements like "I"m better than ____ because I've done it and _____ hasn't" - and often get quite defensive about it when revealed.</P> <BLOCKQUOTE> </BLOCKQUOTE>

[Woz]

<blockquote><hr>MacAllen wrote:<BR><BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Grizart wrote:<BR><DIV>As for soloing ^^ mobs, I can't do that either as (I believe) those are group mobs which assume you're in a group of 3 or more folks and they hit like a ton of bricks. I can solo red solo mobs, but green ^^ group mobs still give me a rough go for it and aren't worth the downtime. I can take a 25 sec downtime between red solo mobs, but the group mobs leave me totally empty of health and mana, so I tend to just skip them.</DIV><hr></blockquote>I agree that sometimes the downtime between green/blue^^ mobs is irksome. But they *are* totally soloable, and the advantages to doing so are that you get the bonus xp from defeating a group encounter by yourself, and you also get those nice occasional chest drops with Adept/tradeskill scrolls in them.6 of one, half-dozen of the other. I see a lot of folks post that they aren't very happy with the soloing skills of Inquisitors. (I'm not saying you are.) Personally, I think Inquisitors are terrific soloers, able to take down a lot of encounters that other classes cannot. (Might be a lot of downtime between, but that's life.)/off-topic-two-cents

[MacAll]

<DIV>I love my soloability, it's better than it ever was for clerics in EQ1, and I drop mobs many of my same-lvl peers can not.  I was just relating my experiences that I have a really hard time dropping group mobs and can drop 3 oranges in the time it takes me to drop a green group, including recovery in both situations, and I seem to get more exps from the oranges.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Just my experiences.</DIV>