I need some tips on Raid Healing.

[excellion]

I got into a raid guild a few weeks ago, and I have been doing pretty well in terms of raid healing. We do mainly tier 6, and some of the starter tier 7 such as Labs.Anyway, im level 64 now. Whenever we parse healing, I am usually in second place. Right behind the level 70 Warden.I can't feel though, as if I could be healing much more then I am right now.Heal Spells:Grand Restoration Master IIGlorious Intercession Adept IIIGrand Amelioration Adept IIICrucial Intercession Adept IIIWord of Atonement Adept IIIGlory of Combat Adept IIIHealing Debuffs:Mark of the Celestial Adept IIIInvoluntary Restoration Adept IIIUsually from the beginning of the fight, I let loose a Glorious Intercession on the MT. Then, assuming he's not in need of more healing, I cast MotC and IR on the mob. Mark of the Celestial at this level heals for 41 a tick, and Involuntary Restoration heals for around 225 a hit.So 20% of the MTs hits are giving him 41 health every 2 seconds, and 225 for hitting. Ontop of that, he has a 10% chance to heal himself and his group for around 445 with Glory of Combat. Ontop of that, whenever he's hit my reactive goes off. Healing him for around 450 health.This doesn't count crits, and my heal crit chance in a raid is around 34% from my AA and empathic aura.My grand restoration crits for 2.4k and my grand amelioration crits for 1.2k.I would say I crit around 40% of the time.When my group needs healing, I let out a WoA, which heals everyone for around 900. When it crits it heals for around 1.2k.So far I havn't had any complaints about my healing. Infact, it's usually when I die that we end up wiping.Am I doing everything I can to keep these people alive? Or is there some master Templar tactic I am missing?

[Kyom]

From my point of view you do pretty much what we are supposed to do.However I do some things a bit different: I cast reverence on the tank during the pull - it doesn't create aggro and he will be taunting during the pull anyway. I only cast reactives once he is a bit damaged because then it actually goes off and heals (otherwise it just goes off but doesn't heal if he is full health and that to me is waste of power <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />)I also cast Spurn as soon as possible. It is not direcly linked to the healing but it will help to get the mob down faster = less power used on healing.I wouldn't cast Glory of combat on the MT but on a dps (possible one that duel wields). Chances are your tank has a shield or a 2h which means his hits are pretty slow and the chance lower then someone hitting fast and with two weapons for the heal to go off).Other then that I don't think I would do anything different. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />But then every fight is incredibly different and we need to pre-act and can't really react that fast.Something that doesn't directly apply to raid but more to group situations:If you are in KoS where your MT mostly body pulls - it's kind of important to cancel your reactives if they are still up when he pulls. Once more reverence is a nice way of healing the tank a tiny but during the pull before you can cast reactives to not get aggro.<div></div>

[Timaarit]

Reverence does create aggro so you better hope the taunt lands. I myself dont precast that anymore since I got killed a few times because the taunt (that healed the MT also) got resisted and I got aggro. <div></div>

[Kyom]

Never EVER got aggro with reverence while doing HoF and PoA where the tank was body pulling about 90% of the time.Couldn't it be that your reactive was still up on the MT when he pulled again?<div></div>

[Timaarit]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Kyomih wrote:Never EVER got aggro with reverence while doing HoF and PoA where the tank was body pulling about 90% of the time.Couldn't it be that your reactive was still up on the MT when he pulled again?<div></div><hr></blockquote>Yes I am certain. I have learned not to precast reactives in a raid. You might have just been lucky with the resists (no taunts resisted that is).<div></div><p>Message Edited by Timaarit on <span class=date_text>09-14-2006</span> <span class=time_text>06:16 PM</span>

[Kyom]

Reverence is not a reactive - it only heals the tank if he uses power not if he gets hit.I might have gotten lucky since the time I got reverence then - I didn't actively check but I have been grouping with different tanks and during different situations and like I mentioned I never ever got aggroed while using Reverence. It would be interesting to get some more feedback on this though. I really do wonder if it was just luck in my part.<div></div>

[Timaarit]

<blockquote><hr>Kyomih wrote:Reverence is not a reactive - it only heals the tank if he uses power not if he gets hit.I might have gotten lucky since the time I got reverence then - I didn't actively check but I have been grouping with different tanks and during different situations and like I mentioned I never ever got aggroed while using Reverence. It would be interesting to get some more feedback on this though. I really do wonder if it was just luck in my part.<div></div><hr></blockquote>Well, for what I have seen, sometimes timeline goes like tank taunts, gets resisted, gets hit, retaunts and grabs aggro, Reverence heals and you wont get aggro because tank has created hate. Or tank gets hit, taunts and is healed. I have seen this; tank gets hit on pull, tank taunts and gets healed, taunt is resisted and I get aggro and die. But the hate created by Reverence is really small, so if tank builds up any aggro, it wont create enough against the templar.<div></div>

[Whitemane]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Timaarit wrote:<BR>Reverence does create aggro so you better hope the taunt lands. I myself dont precast that anymore since I got killed a few times because the taunt (that healed the MT also) got resisted and I got aggro.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Yeah that "RESISTED" abover their heads makes me reach for the detaunt button .. heheh Im not always quick enough

[Whitemane]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Kyomih wrote:<BR>Never EVER got aggro with reverence while doing HoF and PoA where the tank was body pulling about 90% of the time.<BR>Couldn't it be that your reactive was still up on the MT when he pulled again?<BR><BR><BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>No He is correct. Reverance can get you agro.</P> <P> Its actually pretty hard to get agro with reverance but it can be done especailly with Body pulls. Remember what has to happen to get agro from reverance is that </P> <P>i) the Tank has to already be hurt as it wont heal if they are at full health</P> <P>ii) Has to spend power</P> <P>iii) The mobs have next to no hate on them as Reverance only heals for 210% of power spent so its not that big of heal. So if he cast a buff or something like that chances are your reverance is going to move you up a spot but its a body pull followed by a taunt that gets resisted it can get ... Messy.</P> <P>If been pasted by this a couple of times now. Its really really really hard to do but it can happen.</P> <P>Gemmas</P><p>Message Edited by Whitemane on <span class=date_text>09-14-2006</span> <span class=time_text>09:13 PM</span>

[Whitemane]

<P>Good Advice here's my 2cp</P> <P>Reverance Can get you agro =D ( see other post) so careful there. I do precast it alot as its Fairly safe experience will tell you when/ what you can get away with.</P> <P>Also I would cast Glory of combat on the MT especailly if its a zerker unless you need another Holy redoubt to up a squishy types HP ( like a lower level mage say for example ) 2 Reasons here First of the Proc nerf actually nerfed Glory of Combat pretty good. It no longer procs near as much as it used to.Almost to the point where its not that useful ( Almost ) Also in my experience the only  scouts you are likely going to have an your MT group is a dirge and well they are usually casting spells/rezing so its pretty much wasted there. ( but yeah if youve an assasin or swashy sure by all means ).  And finally your MT is the least likely to bite it through a mis jousted AoE etc.. ( With sheild buckling your Tank is prolly using a bucker and a low delay weapon at near 100% haste & dps mod as well)</P> <P>At 64 though any t7 Raid Mob AoE is probably going to kill you outright so be ready for that. Max Heal range is your Friend =D.  Expect, as you raid, to die. ALOT. repeatedly. over. and over and over. again. But once you finally kill the UBER_MOB_01 with 23 of your close personal friends its pretty fun =D and that is what its all about ;P</P> <P>Gemmas 70 Templar Exalted</P> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Kyomih wrote:<BR>From my point of view you do pretty much what we are supposed to do.<BR><BR>However I do some things a bit different: I cast reverence on the tank during the pull - it doesn't create aggro and he will be taunting during the pull anyway. I only cast reactives once he is a bit damaged because then it actually goes off and heals (otherwise it just goes off but doesn't heal if he is full health and that to me is waste of power <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />)<BR><BR>I also cast Spurn as soon as possible. It is not direcly linked to the healing but it will help to get the mob down faster = less power used on healing.<BR><BR>I wouldn't cast Glory of combat on the MT but on a dps (possible one that duel wields). Chances are your tank has a shield or a 2h which means his hits are pretty slow and the chance lower then someone hitting fast and with two weapons for the heal to go off).<BR><BR>Other then that I don't think I would do anything different. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><BR><BR>But then every fight is incredibly different and we need to pre-act and can't really react that fast.<BR><BR>Something that doesn't directly apply to raid but more to group situations:<BR>If you are in KoS where your MT mostly body pulls - it's kind of important to cancel your reactives if they are still up when he pulls. Once more reverence is a nice way of healing the tank a tiny but during the pull before you can cast reactives to not get aggro.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>

[Zabumt]

<DIV>Also remember that at level 64 you still haven't received your upgraded single-target, group or stun reactives.  Those will increase your healing output substantially.  On top of that at 70 you get your upgraded group heal.  When I was raiding full-time, if I worked at it, I could beat just about any healer out there in terms of parsed healing.  Granted the healers on my raids might not have been on top of their game... so take that with a grain of salt.  But you will get better over the next 6 levels.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[EQPrime]

<P>Isn't glorious intercession level 68?  How are you casting it at level 64?</P> <P>Once you hit 70 I suggest trying out Focused intercession if you're in the MT group.  I rarely used the level 50 version but I've really grown to like it lately.  I notice a huge difference when it's up.</P>

[Nari]

I think he was saying that you don't have it yet.