Should I master Crucial Intercession or Greater Intercession at 44? Agonizing decision.

[SpineDoc]

<DIV>44 temp.  I am agonizing over whether to master my single or group reactive.  A lot of healers are telling me to master the group one, but I see myself still primarily healing with my single reactive if the group knows how to fight.  Honestly the group reactive takes so long to cast I usually only use it on pre-pulls or if there are adds.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Can anyone give me some insight as to what my role as a healer will be for the next 10 levels and if I should get the group or single reactive.</DIV>

[rollando]

<P>Mmh, post CU  I've used direct heals much more than reactives - I chose the fast direct heal as Master 2 at 44, and it was a very good decision.</P> <P>At 54, you get a new single target reactive heal you can choose as master II, and you'll still use your level 43 group reactive. So, if you still want to pick up a reactive heal as level 44 master II, go for the group one. </P><p>Message Edited by rollando on <span class=date_text>11-13-2005</span> <span class=time_text>10:30 AM</span>

[AzraelAzgard]

<DIV>Upgrading the group reactive to master 2 will give you more potential raw healing power as its 9 heals compared to 5 but also its across 6 targets compared to 1.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Between single or group reactive, Id take group.</DIV>

[Cowdenic]

<P>Whatever you do try to get the other one master 1 or barring that minimum adept 3.</P> <P> </P> <P>Good luck.</P>

[Kiara-]

<DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#cc99ff>If you find that you use the single target more then take that one.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#cc99ff></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#cc99ff>Use whatever fits your personal healing style and makes you more effective.  Everyone heals differently, and so what spells each person upgrades to what level will similarly differ.</FONT></DIV>

[Truffor]

I took fast direct heal. If you really want to take a reactive, choose solo one. Best ratio power/heal and fast <div></div>

[SpineDoc]

<P>LOL so far every master 2 choice has been suggested!  I do not raid that much, but primarily fight in groups, almost never solo unless it is with my RL brother Paladin.</P> <P> </P> <P>So for a primarily group player, what is the best choice from 44 to 54?</P> <P> </P> <P>(PS If I could predict the future then I would know what type heals I need for 44 to 54)</P> <P> </P> <P>Thanks much for the input guys, just want to be the best healer (or at least the best temp healer).</P>

[Wildi]

<P>I didnt use group intercession much until I realized how good it was.  You get a large amount of heals that anyone in your group can trigger and it is really fairly mana-efficient.  I have hotkey'ed to my right click button (on a 5 button mouse) I use it so often along with manastone right after I cast it.</P> <P>Trust me, get the group, you will get use to the long cast time and it works really well.</P> <p>Message Edited by Wildill on <span class=date_text>11-13-2005</span> <span class=time_text>03:44 PM</span>

[OlaeviaTraisharan]

Can someone explain to me why you would take the group version over the solo version? I rarely if ever have to use the group version, and I group quite often. I guess I could see this from a raiding standpoint, but seeing as how I don't really do that often, what's the point? It's a long cast time with less healing per hit reactive than the single target. I just never had the use for it except on pulls where it was uncertain as to who would yank the aggro early on. <div></div>

[AzraelAzgard]

<P>Read my reply thats why.</P> <P>Both spells sat next to each other at Master 2 the grp is more powerfull.</P> <P> </P> <P>Total healing say 400 a hit single would be 2000 healing, group would be 3600 healing and the group reactive can heal anyone in the group while its up for be focused on 1 person. Rather my grp reactive the one able to heal anyone especially mages was the one with the bigger heals. In terms of 5 seconds its not that much longer than single target large instant but its lots more healing and potential healing and you can always precast it.</P> <P>But whichever you choose, reactive stacking is the way to win hard fights using your mana best. Our instants while large in general but slower to cast and slower to recast arent supposed to be our main form of healing, they are mana intensive and intended as a backup when the reactives cant cope alone and the tank needs a quick boost.</P>

[OlaeviaTraisharan]

It just seems like a waste. I mean if you don't need to toss up a group reactive, then the rest of the group doesn't get hit and the healing buff is gone, which means that you could have saved mana, time, and healed more by casting the single on the tank. Correct? I don't like making these kinds of decisions on the spells <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I'm very indecisive and don't want to screw up. <div></div>

[AzraelAzgard]

<DIV>When you get into a decent fight with possible AEs and adds you'd wish it was your group reactive that was the M2 with the healing power and potential across the group <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I always keep grp reactives up vs decent stuff as you never know what may happen, mage gets hit for half their hp that reactive healing them could save them from the next hit killing them, give you time to save them <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[Ragamor]

<P>I think you should take what fits your personal healing style. For myself I chose the single reactive as Master2, however of course my first rare went to the group reactive Adept 3. I had the expereince that I used the single target reactive more often than the group one, so I chose that combination.</P> <P> </P> <P>Cheers,</P> <P>Raga</P>

[OlaeviaTraisharan]

<DIV>*nod*</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>It may be that at my level (41) I have not encountered many situations that require the group reactive just yet.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I do have a rare set aside for a level 40-49 spell. I need to find many more though HAH! I've found the Feerrott to be wonderful when it comes to finding harvesting nodes.</DIV>

[BenEm]

Personally I took the single target reactive . Why because its by far and away my most used spell .   Your 4 main healing spells should be the 1st upgades to adept 3  .  I want to say at lev 44 the Single target reactive @ master II heals about 290 when triggered .  My group reactive @ adept 3 heals about 250 when triggered .

[OlaeviaTraisharan]

<DIV>You know the sick part? I've never gotten Adept 3's... </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I leveled so quickly that I didn't want to waste the rares. Instead, I've stockpiled the rares for my husband's Necromancer LOL <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I do plan on getting Adept 3's in my late 40's though. That's a must. I just have to find the darn rares! Lunch hours are great for this. Sometimes it's lovely having a work computer that runs the game better than your home computer <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[Kendricke]

<P>I'm often the only healer, or at least one of two healers for hard group or small raid situations.  I tend to use the group reactive on most, if not all pulls, so I chose Crucial Intercession for my Master II.</P> <P> </P>

[BenEm]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Kendricke wrote:<BR> <P>I'm often the only healer, or at least one of two healers for hard group or small raid situations.  I tend to use the group reactive on most, if not all pulls, so I chose Crucial Intercession for my Master II.</P> <P> </P> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>That one still kills me ! I cant dare throw a Group reactive before a pull unless I am ok with getting the Aggro  , Not as bad with the single target  reactive but I still win aggro just easier to get it off ..dosent quite generate the hate the group reactive does . I guess my pally needs to get those taunts to masters because at adept3  I cannot pre cast a reactive and he is 2 levs higher than me .  Now one thing I did notice is a guardian 10 levs higher can pull back hate fast but I still got it and he used hate spell to pull . My single target reactive is master 2 all other spells adept 3 . Any suggestions on that ?

[javis]

<P>I chose the GI for my master 2, I would make sure you get CI to adept 3. I also had GI at adept 3 so I weighed the numbers and chose single. Here is why, it casts faster and less mana. I play with fairly seasoned players and we hardly get too chaotic where my CI is really benefiting everyone unless we are fighting AE mobs. I usually use CI to supplement GI to reduce spike damage on higher level Heroics and named. That combo worked really well for me up to 54.</P> <P>At 54 you get Master GI then at 56 get an adept 3 FI </P> <DIV>Cheers,</DIV> <DIV>-Izzy</DIV>

[SnowKnight]

<P>Easy to answer : Who takes the hits most of the time? One target (ie the main tank). What heals for more, for less power? Single target reactive. Theres your answer. Just get the other to ad3, rubys are dirt cheap anyways. As for upgrading the grp one so you can have two masters at 54? Good Idea, but the group heal gets replaced at 56 anyway.</P>

[Suite]

<P><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#ff9999>I would go with the single target reactive and buy an adept 3 for the group reactive and direct heals unless you raid frequently (several times a week). In that case, I would consider the group reactive.</FONT></P> <P><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#ff9999>Suite / Eliana (54 templar)</FONT></P>

[Kayle]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Suite wrote:<BR> <P><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#ff9999>I would go with the single target reactive and buy an adept 3 for the group reactive and direct heals unless you raid frequently (several times a week). In that case, I would consider the group reactive.</FONT></P> <P><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#ff9999>Suite / Eliana (54 templar)</FONT></P> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>What Suite and Snow said.  The only thing I do now is help out in raids and still I find I made the best choice by going Master 2 with the single reactive and leaving the group intercession at adept3.  I also did it because I can cast several single reactives if I want to and keep more people in better health.

[Arielle Nightshade]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Kaylena wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Suite wrote:<BR> <P><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#ff9999>I would go with the single target reactive and buy an adept 3 for the group reactive and direct heals unless you raid frequently (several times a week). In that case, I would consider the group reactive.</FONT></P> <P><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#ff9999>Suite / Eliana (54 templar)</FONT></P> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>What Suite and Snow said.  The only thing I do now is help out in raids and still I find I made the best choice by going Master 2 with the single reactive and leaving the group intercession at adept3.  I also did it because I can cast several single reactives if I want to and keep more people in better health. <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>agree..agree....   I have been very happy with upgrading single heals/regens first, group heals/regens next, buffs 3rd and damages only if I have spare rares hanging around.   With a good tank, the only reason you need a group heal/reactive/regen is because of AE, and that doesn't always happen in every fight.  However, focusing on healing said MT does happen every one.</P> <P>My 2,<BR></P>

[SpineDoc]

Thanks so much guys.  I chose the single reactive, and brought my group reactive up to adept 3.  I am 45 now and am happy with the way it is turning out.

[Bloodf]

<P>I use the single reactive every fight like most do. Only on tough fights I throw on the group reactive as well. The group reactive has saved my group from wiping many, many times. Also, you have your emergency single reactive ready just in case.</P> <P>None of this should affect your decsion though. You need to research the skill/spell lists for the class 40-60 and see which master will be most of an ugrade and still usable at the highest level.</P> <P>Blood.</P>

[Zabumt]

<DIV>Glad you got your choice straightened out.  As a late note, I chose the single-target instant heal as my master spell.  Why?  Because, on a raid, I'm using my instants mostly if I'm not in the MT group.  Usually, the MT group has a Templar or Inquisitor in it to do single-target and group reactives.  So, no need for me to have my reactives at master level unless I'm one of many Templars to be chosen for the task.  Me casting a Master 2 single-target reactive on the main tank just makes the MT Cleric think that his reactive has dropped and cast it again.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If you never raid, sure go ahead and do one of your two reactives.  Otherwise, I think the wise choice is the single-target instant.  Since that heal (by far) is the most used spell on any raid I've been on where I haven't been in the MT group.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Cowdenic]

<P>except there is little reason to have Templar in MT group now.</P>

[Phidget]

<P>Take into account the future as well.  At level 54, you will get a single target upgrade, AND a master option for it.  You do not get another group upgrade until 56 and no master option.  This means the group one will have better longevity, while you can just get an AD3 of the single target one.</P>