appropriate attire

[XI]

<div></div><p>Im almost afraid to ask this as people will start back in on the fury vs warden vs templar thing (shout out to those forgotten healers), but why with the changes are we still wearing plate amour aside from stats?  I don’t solo much so I am not to worried about my dps (though i did get a severe thrashing the other day trying to duel for the first time), and it seems to me as though templars can still heal as well as other archetypes, if not as well as before.  Why though if we can inflict any discernable nuke or melee damage do we need heavy amour?  Were not in there with the mob were back with the casters 10 feet away to avoid aoe's.  It therefore seems to me if this is to be our station in life so be it but give us some nice light amour with +wis stats.  I know people are going to say for when we get argo from spells now but seriously ill be damned if I still don’t die nearly as fast as the coercer standing next to me.  at least they can hope to mez the thing.  On a tangent I was recently told that mez and stun spells get useful after 50 is this really the case because at lvl 48 my sign line and prostrate are seemingly junk.</p><div></div>

[Timaarit]

No, they dont get more useful after lvl 50. Prostrate upgrade (lvl 53) has a bit longer duration but that is that and Sign line isn't upgraded untill next expansion (lvl 62). If something comes to your way after mt is dead, disable autoattack, cast harmony and run. <div></div>

[Kayle]

<DIV>n/m, I have to get to sleep.</DIV><p>Message Edited by Kaylena on <span class=date_text>11-02-2005</span> <span class=time_text>12:39 AM</span>

[Caethre]

<DIV>OOC.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Well, for a start, many of us do solo *a lot*.</DIV>

[Sural_Argonus]

<DIV>Not really sure what you mean by "Appropriate attire"</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Priests have always had the ability to wear heavier armor, even back in D&D.  </DIV>

[SenorPhrog]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> XI13 wrote:<BR> <P>Im almost afraid to ask this as people will start back in on the fury vs warden vs templar thing (shout out to those forgotten healers), but why with the changes are we still wearing plate amour aside from stats?  I don’t solo much so I am not to worried about my dps (though i did get a severe thrashing the other day trying to duel for the first time), and it seems to me as though templars can still heal as well as other archetypes, if not as well as before.  Why though if we can inflict any discernable nuke or melee damage do we need heavy amour?  Were not in there with the mob were back with the casters 10 feet away to avoid aoe's.  It therefore seems to me if this is to be our station in life so be it but give us some nice light amour with +wis stats.  I know people are going to say for when we get argo from spells now but seriously ill be damned if I still don’t die nearly as fast as the coercer standing next to me.  at least they can hope to mez the thing.  On a tangent I was recently told that mez and stun spells get useful after 50 is this really the case because at lvl 48 my sign line and prostrate are seemingly junk.</P> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>If you don't solo much it might not be as big of a deal to you unless you want to survive longer than the Wizard and Pet class.   It also mitigates those nasty AoE's that you occasionally will catch when you are standing in the wrong spot.   Honestly some of the best stats I see for wisdom (at least at my level) come off heavy armor which works just fine for me.   My real question for you though is if you aren't getting hit then why does it matter whether the armor is lighter or heavier?   Does lighter armor really have better stats to it?   Is the trade off worth taking X% more damage possibly killing you faster?  Honestly your coercer must be pretty [Removed for Content] good if they are dieing quicker than you are.  I'm almost always the last person to go down unless things have just gotten beyond chaotic.</P> <P>As for the mez....I don't know where thats useful if you group all the time.   I use it constantly in solo fights for multiple groups and it reduces my damage immensely.   I can't see it any more useful at 50 than when you get the spell.</P>

[Kendricke]

<P>Depending on the current situation, I swap between leather and plate armor sets.    </P> <P> </P>

[SatinyCh]

<P>I've always gone with heavy armor, I use a Robe of Invoker and GEB, but that's really my only non-plate attire. It is true what Radar said, about helping mitigate AoE's and surviving mobs that aggro jump off the tank. A lot of AoE's are melee damage now, which is a pretty cool change to the ol' poison/elemental type thing. My wisdom was above the cap pre-DoF with plate, and post-DoF, we really have got some great gear with wisdom on it. Leggings, bracers, rings, etc, can all put you up at the top, while keeping your heavy on to maintain balance.</P> <P>True, there may be numbers out there to support theories, but field testing, a templar in plate lasts longer with aggro then a templar wearing cloth. I have had a few templars on my server link me the new "uber t6" VLA crafted, with 20 wis robes and 20 wis pants...But they die in a heartbeat if they happen to pull aggro.</P>

[javis]

Plate just looks cool and you can still get great stats from heavy armor. I haven't seen cloth that was so overwhelming that I would take the dip on mitigation for. Then again that is me. It would be interesting to buy a set of cloth and see how well I can still solo. Maybe I will experiment. As for the sign line, unless your group knows you are using it, I feel it is a waste of time and power. Here is my reason, if my most efficient heal spell is based upon my target getting hit, then I want my getting hit. If a multiple pull is too much or an add seriously jeopardizes the group then we are fighting stuff that is probably too high for us. You weigh those risks when you pull though. Also if you cast that on a mob then you are on the top of the aggro list and adding to it as they kill the other. When they break it there is a good chance you will keep aggro for a few seconds. Not that big of a deal in a controlled situation but if it gets out of hand with adds then you can see how it can escalate. I rarely use this spell. I loved it pre LU13 when it was a group stength debuff, now it is another spell in that back of my book. I have it on my bar but not in primary ones. It could serve it's purpose with a disciplined group. As for soloing, I never use it. It slows down my killing time (now that is funny.) If I switch targets to mez then switch back to start up ho's again, it just feels like a waste to me. I rarely have any issues with keeping healed, it is killing it quick enough to make it worth while. As for our stun line, I cannot say how much I LOVE this spell. I use it every chance I get. Force submission stuns for 7 secs and that helps in lowering their DPS. I use it in groups, solo and I found it be a boon escecially against fast hitting, high DPS named mobs. -Izzy <div></div>

[Neophyte3679]

<DIV>I reccomend a full set of nightblood armor for every lvl 38-49 templar.  all its give +6-11 wisdom and the mitigation is only a few less than pristine fulginate.</DIV>

[SatinyCh]

<DIV>I wouldn't really agree with that. Nightblood armor is nice, it has big +wis..but it lacks any trace of +power, which helps a ton</DIV>

[Tuttiax]

<DIV> <DIV>It also depends on group make up.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I could see myself running with an alternate armor setting when I'm with my normal running crew. 9 outta 10 times we're like a well oiled machine (ok, we may squeek a bit more often depending on distractions), and I rarely draw aggro with them. Everyone knows their role, etc. Course we will push things from time to time as we start feeling like we can take on everything by ourselves, but that's only natural.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>However in pugs....too many variables. Is our tank two boxing with his main over in some epic raid? Will our mage be a chain caster from the word go leaving me to chain cast trying to keep him standing long enough for the tank to re-establish? What's the traffic like in our hunting grounds and is the tank attetive enough to see an "add" message and grab it? When he grabs it, is our mage /assisting or is his hand picking targets? Will he switch back when the tank switches? etc etc etc</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I hate running in pugs becuase of the unknown. I love running in pugs because of the unknonw. Either way though when faced with unknowns, I'll opt for the extra-protection of plate. Not to mention that there have been times when I've purposefuly drawn aggro from an added mob to a caster, simply becuase I know I can last a bit longer, my focus is generaly high enough to continue casting heals through the adds pounding, but I'll only do this when working with tanks I trust. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>All this to say, "I love me plate! Ta ringin' o' ta metal from ta poundin' o' ta beasties will wake ya up in ta mornin!"</DIV></DIV>

[Supernova17]

My standard grouping and raiding gear is designed for max wis/power and mana regen (not counting resist or backup gear) head to toe: Head - Medium (Trembler helm) Chest - Cloth or Medium (RoI or Hardened Metallic Tunic) Shoulders - Plate (Dark Prayer gear) Forearms - Plate (Vembraces of Elemental Fire) Hands - Plate (Vox's Gloves) Legs - Medium (Splitpaw Timeless Visions set) Feet - Cloth (GEBs) <div></div>

[cadrach]

<div></div>Until just recently I was decked head to toe on Sootfoot armor.  Medium armor with TONS of power for the level.  I was great soloing and I was great in groups.  I had the highest power points vs 90% of my level that I saw and I could outheal anyone.  (having manastone helps a lot as well)    All that and it looks dang good as well.  Problably some of the best armor looking in game in my honest opinion. <div></div><p>Message Edited by cadrach on <span class=date_text>11-03-2005</span> <span class=time_text>07:22 PM</span>