Question about reactives

[Mor]

<DIV>So, there's this person named Ozzsmeg posting in the wardens forums tell us that reactives are useless.  His latest post is <A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=16&message.id=10032#M10032" target=_blank>here</A>.  Since I do not play a templar, I am not qualified to comment on his play style.  Is what he says true?  Are reactives not worth casting? </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Supernova17]

He is a Templar who has not adjusted to the Combat Changes and the entire game as a whole. He is misguided and needs to come home to the Templar boards and learn the truth, not the half truths, misguided ideas and sorely mistaken views he spreads in other fourms. I would go so far as to suspect that he is low 50's with the old world mindset of killing oranges and red for breakfest while only having our T4 reactives which cannot keep up with the damage of a T6 mob, especially if the tank is 6 levels or more lower than the mob wherein the mob gets a damage bonus. I had my doubts and dislikes with the Templar class. but when I hit 54 and 56 as a Templar, and recieved my T6 single and group reactives, I felt like my class became uber again. <div></div>

[Blast2hell]

*cries* it kills me to see a horribly unskilled templar in the warden boards of all boards saying things like that.  Sorry for him going to your warden boards.   While templars do have concerns of there own, that guy clearly has no idea how to play a templar to even begin approaching the templar concerns.   I mean wow, he said no one uses reactives, that alone says he needs help.

[SenorPhrog]

<P>Lol that post....I'm trying so hard not to laugh.</P> <P>I still rely consistently on my reactives to keep my group alive.   Can you still sustain people with just reactives?  No way.   Do reactives in a serious way prevent a hemmorhage of damage?  Absolutely.</P> <P> </P>

[Blast2hell]

Oh yeah, when my reactive is down, I'm trying to get it up ASAP, because it's working for me while I'm casting other spells.   That and our Direct Heals are not near as power efficient as our reactives.   Especially that group direct heal, which I admit is one I don't use often, generally things die fast enough that Atoning Fate does all my group instant heals for me.

[Malloc]

If your grouped with another templar or in a raid situation, reactives are pretty useless due to them not stacking.

[TheOnlySariah]

I was following that thread also in the warden boards (as i'm a warden) and I'm glad you shut that Ozzmeg guy up lol. TY morie

[Blast2hell]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Malloc wrote:<BR>If your grouped with another templar or in a raid situation, reactives are pretty useless due to them not stacking. <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>well not actually useless, there still quite effective, just your limited on how many people can cast them.  Which needs to be changed IMO.   Because inquisitors cancel our single target reactive, and visa versa.

[Mor]

<span><blockquote><hr>Blast2hell wrote: <blockquote> <hr> Malloc wrote:If your grouped with another templar or in a raid situation, reactives are pretty useless due to them not stacking. <div></div> <hr> </blockquote>well not actually useless, there still quite effective, just your limited on how many people can cast them.  Which needs to be changed IMO.   Because inquisitors cancel our single target reactive, and visa versa. <div></div><hr></blockquote> This isn't a cleric problem though.  It's a priest problem.  None of our specialty heals stack with another member of our class or  subclass. </span><div></div>

[Blast2hell]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Morie wrote:<BR><SPAN><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Blast2hell wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Malloc wrote:<BR>If your grouped with another templar or in a raid situation, reactives are pretty useless due to them not stacking. <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>well not actually useless, there still quite effective, just your limited on how many people can cast them.  Which needs to be changed IMO.   Because inquisitors cancel our single target reactive, and visa versa. <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>This isn't a cleric problem though.  It's a priest problem.  None of our specialty heals stack with another member of our class or  subclass.<BR><BR></SPAN> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Yeah,  I just didn't elaborate on it....but it's a cleric/shaman/druid issue and it's pretty crappy....even if it's intended the code is so weak, it doesn't even check spell quality before cancelling...and apprentice 2 can cancel a master 2...so lame.

[Eileithia]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Blast2hell wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Morie wrote:<BR><SPAN><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Blast2hell wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Malloc wrote:<BR>If your grouped with another templar or in a raid situation, reactives are pretty useless due to them not stacking. <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>well not actually useless, there still quite effective, just your limited on how many people can cast them.  Which needs to be changed IMO.   Because inquisitors cancel our single target reactive, and visa versa. <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>This isn't a cleric problem though.  It's a priest problem.  None of our specialty heals stack with another member of our class or  subclass.<BR><BR></SPAN> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Yeah,  I just didn't elaborate on it....but it's a cleric/shaman/druid issue and it's pretty crappy....even if it's intended the code is so weak, it doesn't even check spell quality before cancelling...and apprentice 2 can cancel a master 2...so lame. <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>/agree.. If they're "Working as intended" a quality check is in definate need.. How they had Dot's and Debuff before where a higher tier spell would cancel out a lower tier, and give the lower tier a "Would not take effect" message.</P> <P>But I think they should stack.. it would calm a lot of the nerves around all of the priest classes...</P> <P>It's pretty rough going into a raid at the moment with 1single and group special from each of the healing classes (Druid / Shaman / Cleric) Especially if they "one-shot" your tank <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P>

[Bvarien]

Yes, the special heals stacking problem is a major issue.  I think that is part of the problem with raiding now.  Sure the old world mobs seem to be hitting harder, but add to that the fact that the heals are overwriting each other and the result is raids are pretty much not doable anymore.

[SenorPhrog]

<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Bvarien wrote:<BR> Yes, the special heals stacking problem is a major issue.  I think that is part of the problem with raiding now.  Sure the <STRONG>old world mobs seem to be hitting harder</STRONG>, but add to that the fact that the heals are overwriting each other and the result is raids are pretty much not doable anymore.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>They admitted to that and are fixing it.   I'll admit I can't understand why an app2 overwriting a Adept 3 can be working as intended.</DIV>

[Countzero]

<P>RHs are absolutely necessary in Raids.   Prepull the group RH is cast and then the target RH on the MT.  Without that ... hope you're following your tank in to a point where you can cast a direct heal, otherwise the tank is probably in the orange and 1 step from death.</P> <P> </P> <P>Once a templar gets to 56 and has their 2 main RHs upgraded they are actually healing better than pre CU.</P> <P> </P> <P>The trick with RHs is having a good raid group with the proper teamwork so that the responsibility of RHs versus support heals are divided amongst the healers appropriately.</P> <P> </P> <P> </P>

[BSbon]

<DIV>ozz does have 1 good point. either a healer isn't needed cause the mob dies too quickly or you cant mash down buttons fast enough to keep the tank alive. There seems to be that magic amout of levels higher than the tank when a mob does more damage than you can heal. anything 1 level lower and you dont have to heal. i feel like i'm there incase of an add or group of adds.</DIV>