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[Blast2hell]

<DIV>NT</DIV><p>Message Edited by Blast2hell on <span class=date_text>09-19-2005</span> <span class=time_text>11:57 AM</span>

[Tuved2]

50 Warden here and I believe you. Wardens aren't healers anymore. I'm tailoring again. I have no business anymore trying to keep a group alive.

[Abner]

<P>I don't know that people have said we heal less than other classes. The complaint is that the other classes are fairly close to us (show us the numbers from your parser, please), and get better debuffs, more dps, sow, and invis.</P> <P>fwiw, I've never noticed a preference for templars over other healing classes. People simply have looked for "healers"</P>

[Blast2hell]

<DIV>NT</DIV><p>Message Edited by Blast2hell on <span class=date_text>09-19-2005</span> <span class=time_text>11:58 AM</span>

[Quijonsith]

<div></div>Yes we heal more, but we use the most power doing it.  I burn through my power trying to keep a group alive.  It's now more mana efficient to help with DPS and throw out  patch heals and finish healing after the fight.  Still deciding if this is good or bad cause it makes things exciting for us but can be a real challenge.  I think I like the challenge, but I can say that orange and higher yellow mobs now are indeed a challenge (heroics that is).  I think I like it.  Also, did everyone you parsed have comparable spell levels?  Did you alternate main healers to get accurate parsing?  If the templars heals go off before the other healer's spells finish they have nothing left to heal and thus the parser will show them less.  We heal the largest chunks so if the other healers have little left to heal the parser will favor the templar. Edit for side note.  You're right.  Every other priest can out DPS us.  Oh boy have I seen that.  Not even close in DPS between us and the next priests. <div></div><p>Message Edited by Quijonsith on <span class=date_text>09-19-2005</span> <span class=time_text>07:53 AM</span>

[Spite]

<P>Combat Stats will not pick up wards. </P> <P>I just wanted to point that out as I will not get into the debate on who is the greatest healer (as it never figures in player ability).</P> <P> </P> <P> </P>

[Sassyone]

<P>Our healing numbers on our spells might be higher than other classes (barring inquis single reactive since it's higher than ours at adept 3 lvl) BUT, our recast timers do not compare to an inquisitor for sure. I cant vouch for the other healer classes, but I have a 50 inquis and had both temp and inquis out on the road the past few days. To be honest, the inquis is much more at ease in a group healing alone than the temp. The spam heals are comfortable and numerous with no problem and mana seive spell is awesome. Mana was never an issue on the inquis.  The temp is so stressed due to waiting on recast timers before the group dies and the mana cost sucked me dry alot. I can spam heal a ton easier and faster on inquis than a temp. I can add dps and major debuffs to the mobs on inquis..on a temp what can I do? We have one real debuff (big whoop) Reproach. Involuntary and mark are cast for heal helping, otherwise mark isnt worth the time to even mem on the hotbar.  Heal heal heal..wait wait wait..heal heal heal let member number so and so die, wait wait wait, rinse and repeat.  That is what our job is from now on. Oh, lets not forget the pacify spell...hell it doesnt work worth a crap and the stun was nerfed from 12 sec to 5.5. So, wwthh do we have to offer a group besides letting them get exp debt because the lack of being able to cast fast enough to keep their butts alive if the crap hits the fan.  </P> <P>I see alot of the temp's who agree with the changes and have no problems healing..when they post their group makeup it always contains a secondary healer. Well hell no wonder they find it no problem. Get use to finding another healer or pally ..otherwise bring your blanket and pillow guys..death is incoming!</P>

[Blast2hell]

<DIV>NT</DIV> <P>Message Edited by Blast2hell on <SPAN class=date_text>09-19-2005</SPAN><SPAN class=time_text>11:58 AM</SPAN></P><p>Message Edited by Blast2hell on <span class=date_text>09-19-2005</span> <span class=time_text>11:58 AM</span>

[Sassyone]

<DIV>I agree, Atoning Fate is a major heal for very low mana cost and a must to survive. I cant believe I run into Templars that dont even use the spell. Btw, grouping with other healers is a plus. That is why you have no problem keeping up. In my description above I was talking about no other healer in group but me and how it went for both temp and inquis and yes, I utilize every possible heal spell a temp has. </DIV>

[Blast2hell]

<DIV>NT</DIV> <P>Message Edited by Blast2hell on <SPAN class=date_text>09-19-2005</SPAN><SPAN class=time_text>11:57 AM</SPAN></P><p>Message Edited by Blast2hell on <span class=date_text>09-19-2005</span> <span class=time_text>11:57 AM</span>