Why the Templar?

[Vlandor]

<div></div>Hello all I am a lvl 16 cleric and I must decide if I want to be a Templar or Inquisitor I have been been reading alot about the spells that each get and trying to get info off the boards. But now I want to know why do you say Templar is better choice? What are the ups and downs of the Templar class  and do you find that your more useful in groups than Inquisitor? Thanks for any advice as to why Templar class is a good choice, will be posting on Inquisitor forums too to get a good comparison. EDIT: Forgot to mention, if it matters, that I will alawys be a duo with a zerker so soloing will be minimum and my main grouping will be with a zerker, sk, swash, and ranger. <div></div><p>Message Edited by Vlandor on <span class=date_text>07-19-2005</span> <span class=time_text>11:26 AM</span>

[Sural_Argonus]

<DIV>Honestly....That's a tough question.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I chose Templar because I wanted a healer, and my 2 friends have a Mystic and a Warden.  I looked thru the spells, and saw what heals they get....Noticed there are a lot more buffs and debuffs.  Realized that as long as I keep the Vitae up, I can debuff the target and make the tank's job easier.  Once in a while toss a smite or instant heal.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Templar doesn't make the best Main healer in a Raid.  But in Duo situations, or even up to a 6 member group, Templar can hold their own, depending on the person at the keyboard.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>You will hear conflicting views on each class.  I love my bald wood elf Templar.  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[Supernova17]

Templar is the defensive Cleric, fully armed with healing abilities or buffs / debuffs to make life easier. We also have all of the group cures which are invaluable at end game. Inquisitors are the offensive Clerics, not quite as well armed in healing ability, they trade some of this power for DPS boosting spells, damage procs, fear, stifle and root etc. The way my guild raids is the Templar is always in the MT and MA groups and the Inquisitors are found more often in the Melee DPS group to give them a nice boost. Pretty much either choice will do for a Berserker duo, but having less defense than their Guardian cousins, the Templar would be a better choice. Inquisitor would go better duo with a Guardian who have low DPS which can be augmented by the Inquis' spells. <div></div>

[Craig3]

<P>IMO the Templar is the true healer of all the priest and is always the main healer in a group with other healers. If I wanted to do damage, I'd use my mage or scout.</P> <P>Any of the healers solo fine because they can stay alive and fight for a long time, course they hit like babies, but again if you wanna do damage, pick another class.</P> <P>The reactive heals of the Templar seem much better than the other healer classes, unless the upcoming combat changes fix that. We hardly ever draw aggro and the heavy armor is great when we do. I have to admit that I have my share of adept 3s, but I've been the main healer in a raid group even when I was a lvl 45.</P> <P>I've only got a lvl 23 Inquisitor, so I don't know as much about em, but seems almost as good. To me the other classes of healers are hybrids because they added some damage, but never forget your main job is to heal.</P> <P>I really don't think you could go wrong with Inquisitor or Templar. That's why I started an Inquisitor and I just use my Temp for raids now. I do group with an Inquisitor in my guild and he seems to run out of power quicker than I do and I'm sure it's because he uses more direct heals than i do.</P> <P> </P> <P>Templar Advantages:</P> <P>1. Heavy Armor - (so does Inquisitor)</P> <P>2. Reactive Heals - Less power and you can stack before the fight, so that you've regen'd by the time they are used up</P> <P>3. All group cures</P> <P>4. Still have good debuffs and decent buffs</P> <P>5. Groups & Raids always want a Templar (right or wrong - it is the case)</P> <P> </P> <P>Templar Disadvantages</P> <P>1. No damage - Solo good but takes forever to win a fight</P> <P>2. Buffs aren't as strong as other healers</P> <P>3. Really needs Adept 3s for some heals</P> <P>4. New upcoming changes for combat aggro may kill us</P> <P> </P>

[Imri]

I would just go with whatever city you both want to play from over one's performance over the other. Like people have pointed out templars a little more defense based, where as inquisitors are a bit mroe offense based. The differences are pretty negligable though.

[Wildi]

<P>If its an alt, I would wait for the combat change before you choose between Templar/inquisitor.  </P> <P>As a templar, I am drooling over their haste heals etc, all that nice stuff.</P> <P>It seems sometimes that an Inquisitor has templar heals and then really awesome debuffs/buff spells.  I have been out-healed by them and vice versa so I think we both hold true to the name cleric.</P> <P> </P> <P>EDIT: forgot the word "both"</P> <p>Message Edited by Wildill on <span class=date_text>07-19-2005</span> <span class=time_text>05:13 PM</span>

[Supernova17]

<span><blockquote><hr>Wildill wrote:<div></div><p>  I have been out-healed by them and vice versa so I think we both hold true to the name cleric.</p> <p> <span class="date_text"></span><span class="time_text"></span></p><hr></blockquote>Wrong. I've run the numbers at Adept III Group and Single reactive heals. Inquisitor: 3027hp (group) + 1727hp (single) + damage proc = 4754hp Templar: 4293hp (group) + 1097hp (single) + mitigation proc = 5390hp Out spot heals are the same numbers, and we have HEAL procs where Inquisitors have DAMAGE procs. Templars DO out-heal Inquisitors, but lack their utility. Inquisitor is 325 Single + 325 Bonus and 325 Group + 325 Bonus Templar is 212 Single + 249 Bonus and 477 Group + 477 Bonus </span><div></div>

[THuNDeRHe]

<span><blockquote><hr>Supernova17 wrote:<span><blockquote><hr>Wildill wrote:<div></div><p>  I have been out-healed by them and vice versa so I think we both hold true to the name cleric.</p> <p> <span class="date_text"></span><span class="time_text"></span></p><hr></blockquote>Wrong. I've run the numbers at Adept III Group and Single reactive heals. Inquisitor: 3027hp (group) + 1727hp (single) + damage proc = 4754hp Templar: 4293hp (group) + 1097hp (single) + mitigation proc = 5390hp Out spot heals are the same numbers, and we have HEAL procs where Inquisitors have DAMAGE procs. Templars DO out-heal Inquisitors, but lack their utility. Inquisitor is 325 Single + 325 Bonus and 325 Group + 325 Bonus Templar is 212 Single + 249 Bonus and 477 Group + 477 Bonus </span><div></div><hr></blockquote>Wow, Descartin, you are really active on these forums.... Every post I read about healing you have had something to say about! I've got this dark efl female cleric who's level 11 right now.  I was originally going to go Inquisitor, but alas, much reading doth make me mad!  I've read so much on these forums, that I'm thinking I should be more careful when it comes to inquisitor for lack of those group cures, since the raiding aspect when I get to that point pretty much requires those.  Have you heard any banter about whether or not those will become available when this whole revamp happens?' Jaale Frostfire of the Shard, 50 Wizard Navyna, 11 Cleric Hands of Time, Oggok </span><div></div>

[Supernova17]

Not sure Jaale, but I think it's fair the way it is from a roleplay perspective. Templar and Mystic, the healers on the side of the light getting all of the cures. Warden and Fury, not tied down to either good or evil able to pick from most of the cures. Defiler and Inquisitor, evil healers who bring down death and destruction only being able to cure the poisions which they can inflict. <div></div>

[Wildi]

<P>Supernova gets thread mvp!</P> <P>You have restored my self-confidence.  The roleplay point was dead on too, I had never thought of it that way.</P>

[XI]

I love my Templar but learned early on that this was not the class to pick if you want to seriously solo.  It can but done but its a class much better suited to a group of 3 - 6 since the mele is a joke and the spells are relativly weak as well.  In a group however you become invaluable and if able to play well should exclude the need for a second healer ever, leaving more room for dps.  Also be prepared to do some standing around (not for thosse with ADD) if the mabs your taking on arent that far above you.  A good reactive heal can last a good long time. <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Gallanandar Stargazer<BR>38 High Elf Templar<BR>Member of Dragonsbayne</DIV><p>Message Edited by XI13 on <span class=date_text>07-22-2005</span> <span class=time_text>12:16 AM</span>

[MadisonPark]

Ok lets put it this way, a templar is better than an inquisitor (sheer healing numbers) healing within their group. An inquisitor is better than a templar (sheer healing numbers) healing outside of their group.  Granted, this can be affected by luck, or lack there of with the procing of involuntary curate, mark of kings, atoning fate and glory of combat. <div></div>