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Mooz
01-05-2005, 08:14 PM
Is the Melee attack buff that goes with the heal actually worth anything?Well other than giving a cool fist icon that the tank might think is helping them.From what I can tell at lv28 it adds +3 to the attack value.. which given attack values at lv28 (mine is 405) its umm useless.

Auria
01-05-2005, 08:33 PM
<DIV>The +Attack is minimal to prevent the <EM>heal</EM> from being cast as a buff.</DIV>

Mooz
01-05-2005, 09:07 PM
Then why have it all.. except that templars are suppose to be a healer that gives benifical effects...ie like Arch Healing removes minor Trauma and Supplicant's Prayer with its AC component.But +3 to attack hummphAlso on another related issue I swear I have gotten a "would not take hold" type of message trying to cast it on the main tank while being grouped with another Templar. I think that was before I had the Adept 1 version.TuluLv28 TemplarQeynos, Najena<p>Message Edited by Moozoo on <span class=date_text>01-05-2005</span> <span class=time_text>08:07 AM</span>

cadrach
01-05-2005, 09:41 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Moozoo wrote:<BR>Then why have it all.. except that templars are suppose to be a healer that gives benifical effects...<BR>ie like Arch Healing removes minor Trauma and Supplicant's Prayer with its AC component.<BR>But +3 to attack hummph<BR><BR>Also on another related issue I swear I have gotten a "would not take hold" type of message trying to cast it on the main tank while being grouped with another Templar. I think that was before I had the Adept 1 version.<BR><BR>Tulu<BR>Lv28 Templar<BR>Qeynos, Najena <P>Message Edited by Moozoo on <SPAN class=date_text>01-05-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>08:07 AM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>I use mine as my main heal right now (level 23 Templar with Combat healing at Adept I)  It does more than any of my current spells and give a little boost.  I cast my HoT spell and then when it is needed I cast Combat heal to boost them up.  It does better than my Arch Healing which I only have at app3.  Now if I get Adept 1 of arch healing then maybe that will help but I can not find it anywhere. </P> <P><BR></P>

da5idblacksun
01-06-2005, 04:24 PM
What level of spell do you have?

cadrach
01-06-2005, 06:40 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> da5idblacksun wrote:<BR>What level of spell do you have?<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <P>I assume you mean me since it looks like I am insane, but It looks like I have Adept1 combat healing and App2 for ArchHealing. (said app3 earlier but was wrong) Now I am sure I could have arch healing at adept 1 if I COULD FIND IT!  It is no where to be had (at least when I look)</P> <P>If someone knows If I am doing something wrong let me know....</P> <P>Here is my reasoning and I do not have numbers right now so bear with me</P> <P>It seems to me that Combat healing does more healing costs less and casts faster than arch healing (at least at app2).  Of course I Should really wait till i get home to test this before posting so I do not look like a smacktard but so far this has worked for me quite well.  </P> <P> </P>

Mooz
01-06-2005, 08:12 PM
>Now I am sure I could have arch healing at adept 1 if I COULD FIND IT!If your a good aligned character try the blackmarket (evil) broker in Qeynos.To find him, jump in the water next to the broker in Qeynos harbour and swim towards the docks.There is an underwater tunnel leading to the area that has the blackmarket broker.Thats where I got it from.I believe it drops more often on the evil side of the world.Tululv28 TemplarQeynos, Najena

cadrach
01-06-2005, 08:58 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Moozoo wrote:<BR>>Now I am sure I could have arch healing at adept 1 if I COULD FIND IT!<BR><BR>If your a good aligned character try the blackmarket (evil) broker in Qeynos.<BR>To find him, jump in the water next to the broker in Qeynos harbour and swim towards the docks.<BR>There is an underwater tunnel leading to the area that has the blackmarket broker.<BR>Thats where I got it from.<BR>I believe it drops more often on the evil side of the world.<BR><BR>Tulu<BR>lv28 Templar<BR>Qeynos, Najena<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>I will check tonight!  Thanks.....wow I can not imagine what this is gonna cost me!<BR>

Kyliegi
01-06-2005, 10:20 PM
<DIV>Who cares about the buff, it's a very fast and effective heal.  I have the upgraded of Combat Healing (Amelioration) at Master 1 (got lucky) that heals at 518 in 2 seconds vs. Restoration at 796 at Adept 3.  You can rotate back and forth between the two and have an easy time healing.</DIV>

Ender
01-06-2005, 10:26 PM
hello kylie. i just want you to know i hate you. thanks. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Mooz
01-06-2005, 11:42 PM
>Who cares about the buff, it's a very fast and effective heal. Since all healers are suppose to be equal its the buff that makes up for not being able to Slow , Damage shields,Sow etcie If i understand it, druids and shamans should have a heal to match that of Combat Heal. But they also get useful stuff like Damage Shields or Slow.Unless.. you believe that Clerics are intended to be the best healers in the game...Tululv28 TemplarQeynos, Najena

Kyliegi
01-07-2005, 12:44 AM
<DIV>Of course I'd like to believe templars are the best healers in the game, but it's all about opinion.  We do get debuffs... we get a very powerful AoE STR debuff (druids only get single target), we also get an AC/Mitigation debuff that allows for higher nukes and more dmg dealt on a mob.  But we're more about buffs - we can add a spell on a mob that allows your group members to heal when attacking it, we can add a spell that gives a group heal once the target is dead, and some of our buffs even have attack procs... we're still pretty powerful.</DIV> <DIV><BR>And I love you too Ender <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>