Greater Intercession Depression

[Auria]

<DIV>No, the spell isn't broken. . . but here's our continued tale of Templar woe.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>         My server had it's first *ding* L40 sage about 30mins ago. Excitedly, I send him a tell begging to craft Greater Intercession (Adept3). I even had the overly rare Rough Ruby on hand. Well, suprise suprise, L40 Advanced Sage isn't in the game (i.e. Item Search on eq2players results in zero finds, hasn't been found worldwide <EM>if</EM> in game.) Oh and no one knows where the adept1 drops either.</DIV> <DIV>         So, lets assume you subscribe to the Supplicant's Prayer sucks theory; now our L40 upgrade can't even have it's adept3 crafted and the adept1 drops on Pluto (maybe). I at least got the app3 version, and will post numbers on it later.</DIV> <DIV>         But for now I'm going to sleep off the agony of being unable to upgrade our last major heal.</DIV>

[Gwynet]

<DIV>I would say it doesn't surprise me but I would be called negative again <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I'm gonna subscribe for good to the 'the game was released too early' club though. Oh well, I'm sure the game will own in one year.</DIV>

[Auria]

<DIV>Good news is though - app3 ticks at 198, and only cost me 8 gold.  :smileyhappy:</DIV><p>Message Edited by Auria on <span class=date_text>01-04-2005</span> <span class=time_text>04:04 PM</span>

[JF]

<DIV>Thanks for your updates Auria, its helpful having a high lvl share this info so its not a shock to us later heh.</DIV>

[Vahal]

<DIV>I dont want to be negative but regarding:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><EM>"Good news is though - app3 ticks at 198, and only cost me 8 gold. "</EM></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I think/thought my intercession ticked at 258 with adept 3 <---------- Does that sound right to anyone?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Nikky</DIV> <DIV>32 Templar</DIV>

[Gwynet]

<DIV>Greater Intercession is the upgrade of SP, not Intercession.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Makes sense huh?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>On a side note... 198 at app3 is pretty nice. SP app3 at the same level must be way under that though, considering that it heals for 140ish at 36 and it has only increased per 6ish per level, and thus should be around 170ish at 40. (I don't have the exact numbers, could someone post them?). Upgrades are not supposed to be that good when you get them, so it just convinces me even more that SP is broken and should be healing for 30ish more.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Sorry to rub it in again in your post... I just have the impression that there are just more and more evidences /sigh.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks for posting this info Auria.</DIV> <P><SPAN class=time_text></SPAN> </P> <P><SPAN class=time_text></SPAN> </P> <P><SPAN class=time_text></SPAN> </P><p>Message Edited by Gwynet on <span class=date_text>01-04-2005</span> <span class=time_text>12:17 PM</span>

[Auria]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Vahalla wrote:<BR> <DIV>I dont want to be negative but regarding:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><EM>"Good news is though - app3 ticks at 198, and only cost me 8 gold. "</EM></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I think/thought my intercession ticked at 258 with adept 3 <---------- Does that sound right to anyone? <HR> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE> <P>You're comparing 2 different lines of spells. You wouldn't go, oh man, my group instant heal line and minor instant heal line don't compare... because that wouldn't be right. It isn't a matter of being negative, but at least compare similar things, please.</P> <P>What I am happy about is, compare:  Adept3 Supplicant's Prayer - 174 a tick for what? 25+gold?</P> <P>                                                              Apprentice3 Greater Intercession- 198 a tick for 8 gold.</P> <P>Crucial Intercession, my group reactive, heals at 343 a tick at app2, and when my server's sage reaches that level, I'm sure those numbers will go up. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P> </P> <P> </P>

[Gwynet]

<DIV>Hehe I don't blame him for mixing both, to be honest I did at first, two.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Crucial intercession looks awesome too, though.</DIV>

[Auria]

<DIV>Remember also, Supplicant's Prayer and Greater Intercession, both being Regimens spells, are on the same timer, so your SP Adept3 will be obsolete even to the app2 of GI, by 42ish.</DIV>

[Gwynet]

<DIV>True... To be honest though, I'm not sure that it was intended or not, so waiting to see what will happen after the patch. It really seems buggy to me. In beta at some point *all* spells of the same kind were on the same timer, then they changed it for low level spells, but not for high level ones? It just seems to be that it wasn't properly tested.</DIV><p>Message Edited by Gwynet on <span class=date_text>01-04-2005</span> <span class=time_text>12:34 PM</span>

[Laiina]

<DIV>I think the 40 spells are in the 41 book.</DIV>

[BlackFlowe]

At level 42 Adept 3 Supplicant's Prayer will still heal more than App2 CI. Will post real numbers when I get a chance.

[BlackFlowe]

Gwynet,I also hate the newer spells being on the same timer as the old ones... BOV for instance is a cleric spell and not a Templar spell. I suppose in some way that explains the timer issue, although I think the beta testers did a poor job in this department...

[Gwynet]

<DIV>Yeah, I agree that I didn't see many reports about the changes to spells in beta, especially not at that level. I saw *no* report of anything past level 30 or so. Although changing spells one week before the end of beta was pretty stupid too. And I'd like to add, that they didn't seem to pay much attention to our comments in beta either.</DIV>

[BlackFlowe]

/quoteAnd I'd like to add, that they didn't seem to pay much attention to our comments in beta either./end quoteI don't doubt that at all.Then again I suppose the real beta starts once the game goes live, at least from my past MMORPG experiences.

[BlackFlowe]

Btw, on the subject of "Intercession Depression" I tried having Adept 3 Intercession (28th aoe reactive) made the other night. After a few minutes the sage gets back with me saying that some of the 28-29th Adept 3s are bugged due to Advance Sage Volume 28-29 (or whatever..) not being in game.