Protective Faith...

[Kikmaid]

<DIV>Saw a Master 1 book of Protective Faith last night advertised for 60 gold.  Although I can't use it yet, I can in 12% more XP and I should have that tonight.  I can't afford 60 gold, especially as I went crazy buying stuff last night, but I may be able to get a loan from a friend together and potentially purchase it.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>It could well already be sold by now anyway, but who knows..  Anyawy, for those with experience with this spell and the ugprades to it, considering that it would take all my money and leave me poor for some time while I pay the loan off, would someone with experience using it see it as a wortwhile investment?</DIV> <DIV><BR>Does anybody have numbers on how much power (and I guess arcane mitigation) this increases at -</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>App 1 - Power +109; Resists +219</DIV> <DIV>App 3 - Power +116; Resists +256</DIV> <DIV>Adept 1 - Power +126; Resists +289</DIV> <DIV>Adept 3 -</DIV> <DIV>Master 1 -  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>* "Resists" = Divine, Magic, Mental</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Fill in the blanks if you can <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks! :smileywink:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Edit: Filled in some of the blanks now that I know them.  Also taken from what Ember posted in another thread on PF.  The Adept 1 info was taken at level 30, the App1/3 is taken from level 29, so numbers are rough but I think "close enough".  Keep other spell level confirmations coming in if you get them though!</DIV><p>Message Edited by Kikmaidog on <span class=date_text>12-27-2004</span> <span class=time_text>10:33 AM</span>

[Zabumt]

<p>Message Edited by Zabumtik on <span class=date_text>12-21-2004</span> <span class=time_text>12:37 AM</span>

[Protoso]

<DIV>Thats really a bit too expensive for my tastes, I saw that for sale this afternoon as well. I got to thinking IF I actually had 60gp I would probably buy some palladium or upgrade alot of my other spells than just one spell that in all reality your not going to get your moneys worth out of when you could have upgraded other spells.  However, some might argue that since it gives the group power it may be worth it. I think the deciding factor would be how much better a master would be than say the adept3. You could probably get the adept3 for like 20ish gp and still have enough left over to upgrade some more spells to adept 3 ( like supp. prayer if you havent already upgraded). </DIV><p>Message Edited by Protosome on <span class=date_text>12-21-2004</span> <span class=time_text>02:26 AM</span>

[Kikmaid]

<DIV>Well when I got to 29 and was able to cast this, I was then glad I didn't try get the master 1 version of the spell for as much as 60 gold.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>What it did, wasn't what I expected.  It raised the Divine, Magic, Mental resists by 219 each.  Nice enough and all, but no power increase as I expected at all, just these 3 resists.  The higher versions of the spell would be nice and all, but I don't see it as so useful that I have to always have it running, and I often don't even cast it in place of putting more Redoubts on people.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I don't know if it's broken because it says "raises power and arcane mitigation", but I don't know if that's supposed to mean "raises power, and arcane mitigation" or means "raises power/arcane mitigations".  I don't know what 'power mitigation' would be anyway, so I'm assuming poor wording or grammar, or a broken spell at least at app 1 level.  I'll get at least app 3 as soon as I can and test it out, but for now it's not as useful as I'd hoped and am glad I still have my 60 gold <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[Pia]

<blockquote><hr>Kikmaidog wrote:<DIV>Well when I got to 29 and was able to cast this, I was then glad I didn't try get the master 1 version of the spell for as much as 60 gold.</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>What it did, wasn't what I expected. It raised the Divine, Magic, Mental resists by 219 each. Nice enough and all, but no power increase as I expected at all, just these 3 resists. The higher versions of the spell would be nice and all, but I don't see it as so useful that I have to always have it running, and I often don't even cast it in place of putting more Redoubts on people.</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>I don't know if it's broken because it says "raises power and arcane mitigation", but I don't know if that's supposed to mean "raises power, and arcane mitigation" or means "raises power/arcane mitigations". I don't know what 'power mitigation' would be anyway, so I'm assuming poor wording or grammar, or a broken spell at least at app 1 level. I'll get at least app 3 as soon as I can and test it out, but for now it's not as useful as I'd hoped and am glad I still have my 60 gold <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV><hr></blockquote>Are you sure? I cast protective faith and it raises my power from 872 to 965. It also increases Divine resist from 225 to 444, Magic from 111 to 330 and Mental from 460 to 679. This is at app 1.

[Kikmaid]

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Piany wrote:<BR><BR><BR>Are you sure? I cast protective faith and it raises my power from 872 to 965. It also increases Divine resist from 225 to 444, Magic from 111 to 330 and Mental from 460 to 679. This is at app 1.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV>Well I'm sure it didn't add to my power when I first got it and tried it.  But then again I was in a team of 6 at the time, and for all I know it could have been that it doesn't stack with something else that someone in the team was already running.  I forgot to check again later when I was solo.  I'll check again next time I'm on to confirm.</DIV>

[Kikmaid]

<BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Bleh - double post bandit struck me again.</P></BLOCKQUOTE><p>Message Edited by Kikmaidog on <span class=date_text>12-25-2004</span> <span class=time_text>04:44 AM</span>

[Kikmaid]

<DIV>Yes, sorry - it did raise my power when I got to test again when not in team.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So it raised Power by 109 and the 3 resists by 219.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I just got Adept 1 this morning and it raised power by a total of 126, and resists by 289 I think.  Note all of this tested at level 30 now.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Based on that scale, I would expect the Master 1 version would increase power by another 17 and resists by another 70 making it Power +143 and Resists +359 == not worth 60 gold.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Updated original post for reference.  If anyone can confirm App 2, App 3, Adept 3 and Master 1 values please do.</DIV><p>Message Edited by Kikmaidog on <span class=date_text>12-27-2004</span> <span class=time_text>10:34 AM</span>