Your Blessed Weapon?

[Kikmaid]

<DIV>What is happening when you suddenly get a hit with "Your BLESSED Weapon" for about 50~60 damage that I sometimes see?  I'm not casting anything at the time, and I'm using the Tree Branch of Blessings from level 20 Hallmark.  I'm wondering if it's some extra damage from a proc from the mace at all?  Maybe this is the one useful thing the ugly stick does?</DIV>

[TimToler]

<DIV>i get that also although mine doesnt hit that hard :/</DIV>

[Err]

<DIV>Blessed weapon is a proc added by the courage / daring line of spells, it buffs the group but also has a component that procs damage for the caster.</DIV>

[Gwynet]

<DIV>Um never heard of it... I believe it's a proc added by another class personally, it has never happened while soloing.</DIV>

[Kikmaid]

<DIV>Has happened for me many times when soloing - it's the only time I've had an opportunity to notice it due to having time to watch my damage readouts.  First time I noticed it was because all of a sudden a chunk of HP disappeared from the mob even though I wasn't casting cause I had no power left and was just whacking it.  When I looked up I saw that my "blessed" weapon had just hit for 57 damage.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I've only done it with the Tree Branch of Blessings so far that I can remember though...  got a Skullcrusher today and haven't seen one since (yet).  Interesting theory on it being with Courage/Daring... would like to prove it.</DIV>

[Ar-Cunin]

<DIV>It seems likely that it is tied to the courage spell, because I've seen it with both my Templar (also before 20) as well as my Shaman (lvl 14)</DIV>

[Err]

<DIV>Right click examine on courage, its in the description as far as I remember (not checked since beta so I may be wrong).</DIV>

[Kikmaid]

<DIV>I'm at work at the moment so can't check the descriptions - but that sounds reasonable.  Only thing I'm wondering is as Daring seems to be a replacement for Courage, does it also cause the same damage procs?  I did some testing yesterday and found if I had Daring running and then cast Courage that my stats wouldn't change, but if I did it the other way around I would have lower AC until I cancelled Courage - so I made the decision to not run courage anymore and took it off my buff bar.... and haven't seen the blessed weapon since.</DIV>

[A_Phalia]

<blockquote><hr>Kikmaidog wrote:<DIV>I'm at work at the moment so can't check the descriptions - but that sounds reasonable. Only thing I'm wondering is as Daring seems to be a replacement for Courage, does it also cause the same damage procs? I did some testing yesterday and found if I had Daring running and then cast Courage that my stats wouldn't change, but if I did it the other way around I would have lower AC until I cancelled Courage - so I made the decision to not run courage anymore and took it off my buff bar.... and haven't seen the blessed weapon since.</DIV><hr></blockquote>I can only say that I -think- so. I'm almost positive I've seen the message since I got Daring, I'm going to have to pay attention now, or wait for someone else to post <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Ke]

<DIV>Its not just the tree branch that causes this. I started noticing a random 30ish damage that didnt come from nukes with my celestial hammer (the one I got from some quest in Greystone Yard). I've not seen it since I got L20 and got my tree branch - maybe I've just been unlucky or too busy watching other things though!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Kikmaid]

<DIV>Just btw, I can now confirm the following things -</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <UL> <LI>That the blessed weapon hits work with weapons other than Aurora's Tree Branch of Blessings.  I've had it happen with Skullcrusher many times since making this thread.</LI> <LI>If it is caused by one of the team buffs, Daring works just as well as Courage, because I've had it happen many times now without Courage (but with Daring) running.</LI> <LI>Neither the description of Courage, nor Daring seem to mention that they will do a damage proc, so even if it is caused by them, it's not in their description.  As of now I'm still not sure what actually causes it, but it doesn't happen often enough that I can easily test if it happens without them running (or really I can't be bothered doing that much testing).</LI> <LI>As levelling up - to 27 now - it doesn't really seem to increase the damage a whole lot in appropriate scale.  Am still doing about 55 damage or so with these hits, even though I was doing that at about level 21.</LI></UL> <P> </P>

[Ar-Cunin]

<DIV>Reading though the manual (yes - I know :smileytongue: ) it states:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Inspiration:</DIV> <DIV>Level 4</DIV> <DIV>Increases power pool, health pool and armor class; <EM>also grants the chance of additional instant divine damage on a succesful melee attack (self only)</EM></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Now we don't any Inspiration at level 4 in the game - perhaps the last part is simply an innate skill that all priests get now.</DIV>

[Gwynet]

<DIV>I think they merged inspiration in the daring line, so that if you are the one using the spell, you will be able to proc too. If someone else is maintaining the spell, you won't.</DIV>

[Danm]

I think its intrinsic to clerics(maybe all priests), just like our armor proc. I don't use daring or courage and I still get "your blessed weapon" hits while soloing without inspiring piety. The armor proc is symbolic faith, and I seem to recall it doing a +5% to AC about.-Dan

[Kikmaid]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Danmir wrote:<BR>I think its intrinsic to clerics(maybe all priests), just like our armor proc. I don't use daring or courage and I still get "your blessed weapon" hits while soloing without inspiring piety. The armor proc is symbolic faith, and I seem to recall it doing a +5% to AC about.<BR><BR>-Dan<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>The armor proc of symbolic faith is part of Daring or Symbal of Transal - I can't remember which one off the top of my head - but that's definitely written in the in-game description of that spell.</FONT></DIV> <DIV></FONT> </DIV> <DIV>The inspirations talked about above I think are talking about our Inspirations skill (which is used for many of our spells).  Inspiring Piety is our uncommon (solo) HO which simply grants a bonus of +10 to the Inspirations skill.</FONT></DIV> <DIV></FONT> </DIV> <DIV>What's been read in the manual (above) seems to be the defining point that shows where the damage proc is coming from, but I'm interested that Danmir is not using Daring or Courage and yet is still getting the damage proc.  One quite important question though - why on earth *aren't* you using Courage or Daring?  Especially if soloing, that's just disadvantaging yourself for no reason <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Or do you mean that you've had Blessed Weapon hits when you weren't maintaining the spell?  Could that be because there was another cleric in group at the time who was maintaining it?</FONT></DIV>

[Danm]

I was thinking I had a different upgrade for daring when I wrote the above post. My apologies, I always do have daring/fananical reverence up. So it could be a proc (and likely is) a proc from the daring line.I think you are right that symbolic faith may come from symbol. I received the inquisitor upgrade to it, and I don't seem to get the symbolic faith anymore. The inq symbol upgrade, fanatical reverence, occcasionally procs a minor haste buff.This has left me with a bunch of questions though:1) For soloing could I have symbol and fanat rev up to get both procs?2) Do these proc for only the caster? If my fanatical reverence haste procs only for me...well, that is totally worthless.3) Since inquisitors branch off from Templar, does that mean the blessed weapon proc will go away when I receive my next upgrade to daring?-Dan

[Kikmaid]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Danmir wrote:<BR><BR>This has left me with a bunch of questions though:<BR>1) For soloing could I have symbol and fanat rev up to get both procs?<BR>2) Do these proc for only the caster? If my fanatical reverence haste procs only for me...well, that is totally worthless.<BR>3) Since inquisitors branch off from Templar, does that mean the blessed weapon proc will go away when I receive my next upgrade to daring?<BR><BR>-Dan<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>1) I think you can have both running to get both procs - yes.  Of course the underlying effects that overlap will not stack (but differing effects in the two spells should both work), but I think you'll get both procs if you can afford the concentration to have both running.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>2) No, not in the case of Symbolic Faith, it works on whoever is getting hit, and you'll see that person look like they're casting a priest buff on themselves when they get it (the blue shield thing).  Don't know about Fanatical Rev - I'm a Templar =)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>3) I wonder the same thing =)  Guess an Inquis will need to answer this one</DIV>

[Err]

<DIV>My bad, it's not in the decription of courage or daring.  However there was a self buff in beta called inspiration that the description said would proc divine damage, however this effect was toned down and the buff merged with the courage line (including daring etc.) so I am pretty much convinced that this is what is causing the Blessed Weapon message.</DIV>

[Cis]

<DIV>Ooops spoke to soon, ill just keep my mouth shut.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Loiki</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV><p>Message Edited by Cisek on <span class=date_text>12-17-2004</span> <span class=time_text>12:34 PM</span>

[Gwynet]

<DIV>Yes, I rarely get the power regen HO, but when I do I am happy <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>But I don't think it comes from Inspiring Piety. Honestly, it happens very very rarely when I solo, and I've seen it in groups where I never got the opportunity of doing any solo HO.</DIV>

[khrokh]

They introduced that proc ability to courage daring back in beta when they removed our lvl3? self buff that had a great impact on our melee abilities. I remember reading a beta patch message saying something looking like that.

[Kikmaid]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Gwynet wrote:<BR> <DIV>Yes, I rarely get the power regen HO, but when I do I am happy <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>But I don't think it comes from Inspiring Piety. Honestly, it happens very very rarely when I solo, and I've seen it in groups where I never got the opportunity of doing any solo HO.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <P>That's because it's not Inspiring Piety <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Our 3 HO's (that we trigger and complete) are -</P> <UL> <LI>Divine Judgement (Common) - Does additional direct damage equivalent to one Priest nuke.</LI> <LI>Inspiring Piety (Uncommon) - Raises Priest knowledge 2 levels (+10), and does additional damage equivalent to one Priest nuke.</LI> <LI>Blessing of Faith (Rare) - Instantly restores some Power, boosts Power regen by 10% for 90 seconds.</LI></UL> <P>All 3 are triggered with an anvil (hammer) symbol, and the first 2 are completed with an anvil, whereas Blessing of Faith is completed with a chalice (cup) - so it's really easy to recognise when you've just gotten the rare HO triggered.</P>

[Gwynet]

<DIV>Ok sorry I wasn't clearer - I meant the proc doesn't come from inspiring piety. It's definitely blessing of faith that gives the power regen.</DIV>

[Kikmaid]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Gwynet wrote:<BR> <DIV>Ok sorry I wasn't clearer - I meant the proc doesn't come from inspiring piety. It's definitely blessing of faith that gives the power regen.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <P>Ah I see... yes of course, now I reread it and it makes sense what you meant.</P> <P>Incidentally, I got another blessed weapon hit that i noticed in a team today, which is now up around 80 something damage.. and when i mentioned it the pally in the team said they get them too, due to some damage proc spell or ability they have I think.  I didn't think about it for long enough to follow up on it more, but, well... was interesting.  Although I can say without any doubt whatsoever that I've had these solo as well, so it's not his proc I was picking up on.</P>