Lich Regen

[Kski93]

<DIV>So in the necro channel it was brought to my attention that Arch Lich M1's Regen was nerfed from 2% to 1.6%. When did this happen? Why did this happen? Was this something that was suppose to be changed? Right now i'm pretty speechless. I really can't believe they would do this to us....</DIV>

[Sosum]

they claim it wasnt changed only the display now shows decimals instead of rounding up... I call bull[expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] on them. <div></div>

[Sosum]

link love : http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=30&message.id=27667 <div></div>

[Tokam]

<P>I thought it was nerfed along with every other effect of every other master at the intorduction of EoF. Spell effects did not show decimal places untill LU30 so it was rounded up from 1.6%, similarly the new regen from the ad 3 version went up from 1 to 1.4%, but was rounded down in the spell effects window untill LU30.</P> <P>But with 7000 power now so easily available (is 8k possible self buffed?) you are still getting 98 from the ad3 and 112 from the master which keeps us as the fastest mana regening class in the game.</P> <P>We are still the cool kids at the back of the class.</P>

[Gheppan]

not a big deal imo, i still cant run out of power if i try. and yes, 8k power is more than possible self buffed. i sit at 8300 self and my adornments are HP and STA heavy, i could add another 2-300ish power if i went with power and INT adornments instead. but, like i said, i cant run out of power if i try, so why would i need more hehe. besides, more HP = more lifeburn!!<p>Message Edited by Gheppan on <span class=date_text>01-04-2007</span> <span class=time_text>04:53 AM</span>

[Triste-Lune]

They broke / nerf all the % in the process of EoF LU30.All the 2% are now 1.6% instead of the 2% and the adp3 are now 1.4 instead of 1%.archlich, vision of madness and many other are now broken.At 2% life i was asking for hammer to finish the mob but inqui told me it wouldnt let him like it used to. he had to way for mob to be at 1% to cast verdict.So now i want an answer to : what is the point of upgrading spell if no matter what you get the same % from adp3 to M1?if the % were automatically rounded to the closest entire number i wouldnt mind but the whole % took a huge nerf.i m always crafting naked and i noticed a difference in number being regen when they pulled LU30.They just render all the %based master spell almost the same as the adp3, wich is lame. the only thing is that we have a different loking graphic.shame on you SOE

[Tanit]

<blockquote><hr>Kski93 wrote:<div>So in the necro channel it was brought to my attention that Arch Lich M1's Regen was nerfed from 2% to 1.6%. When did this happen? Why did this happen? Was this something that was suppose to be changed? Right now i'm pretty speechless. I really can't believe they would do this to us....</div><hr></blockquote>Can't be that bad if you haven't noticed it until now <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div>

[Jal]

1.4 at ad3 got rounded down previously to 1 1.6 at master got rounded up to 2 in display only so now it shows what its always been doing wheres the problem?Its identical to what it was before its just a display change there has been no actual nerf.

[Geoff]

<DIV>again....pre-EoF, it WAS 2%.  GU30, the difference between Masters and ad3's we reduced (read: masters nerfed, ad3's improved).  However, the description was still rounded and said 2% for master.  Come GU31, they changed the description to reflect percentages.  So no nerf in GU31, just cosmetic....but spell was nerfed in GU30.</DIV>

[Supp]

<DIV><FONT color=#cccccc>If you ask me, the archlich "correction" wonderfully serves to show how some of the "rare & pricey" masters are not rare at all, just pricey. On AB, there's been an archlich up for 30p for days, and another for 36p. Two weeks ago, 90p was a good price, and I'd only ever seen two archlich's up. And I doubt the drop rate increased. </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#cccccc></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#cccccc>As for explanation where it was cosmetically corrected rather than nerfed, well obviously!! How many people out there really thought that the lich and archlich masters were the only percentage based upgrades over apprentice2? How many peeps out there thought that it was right for the lich master to be better than the archlich adept3, which is a 20 level replacement? I'm certain it was cosmetic, and something that I was thinking all along. I'm just sorry it took 2 years for SOE to change the description.</FONT> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#cccccc>How many thousands of plat have been overpaid for this master? Quite the coo eh?</FONT></DIV><p>Message Edited by Supple on <span class=date_text>01-04-2007</span> <span class=time_text>07:50 AM</span>

[Jal]

The proc damage upgrade and slight increase is still worth it. If you have pots of cash and nothing else to spend it on may aswell get all the masters even if its only a slim power regen and proc damage increase.Wish it was going for 30pp on splitpaw...

[Supp]

<FONT color=#cccccc>I have to agree Jalek. I was more interested in the proc. The devour health master gives you I think 420 power every 20 seconds. There's the ultimate manastone, so I didnt sweat the 1% difference for a lich master.</FONT>

[Kski93]

<DIV>Thanks for the link, sorry to bring back old news haven't been watching to forums at all lately. Anyway I still have some opinions on the matter.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>They couldn't use decimals pre EoF, thats laughable. I love how lockeye was pretty much there waiting to post that reply once someone made a thread about it. He prolly has it all typed out and ready to go. Seemed shady to me at least, considering how many times we've been nerfed in the past and devs failed to post any replies telling us why or whatever. .2% just isn't enough considering the rarity of the master or at least before nek 3 came out which made all lvl 70 masters much more common. Throw us a freakin bone here i mean old lich regened the same as Archlich, at least give us back the 2% we are in a higher teir now.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>To those who say you can't run out of power, well I disagree. Try using the pet ae immunity AA that thing takes a huge chunk of power, not to mention some epics have powerdrains attached to boot. Since our set armor is focused even furthering our power regen abilities what with makeing siphon life cost 200power less and giving us and extra 100 power I guess the .2% doesn't matter all that much. Regarless ignorance is bliss.....i wish it still said 2%.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Tokam]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Kski93 wrote:<BR> <DIV>They couldn't use decimals pre EoF, thats laughable. I love how lockeye was pretty much there waiting to post that reply once someone made a thread about it. He prolly has it all typed out and ready to go. Seemed shady to me at least<BR> <HR> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>Deffo his reasons for posting seemed less than altruistic.<BR>

[Soman]

<P>On last nights raid in Emerald Halls I removed all my FT gear and replaced it with gear that either increased Crit % or added spell damage or increased disruption.</P> <P>I only had Arch Lich M1 up for regeneration plus drink.</P> <P>To make a long story short after chain casting on mobs at the end of a fight my pwr pool only every got as low as 50%. Upside was a nice increase in DPS on raidwide parser that someone had running.</P> <P>I think even with the sacrifice of FT, decrease most stats (because I have KoS Necro gear before), that trade off is more than equitable. </P> <P>The only thing I don't like is my gear no longer matches and is as stylish as I would like. Hehehehe</P> <P> </P> <P> </P> <P> </P> <P> </P>

[Flee65]

Archlich always was 1.6%, but anyways Its still impossible to run out of power. Even with beginners raid gear, I find that only after alot of fast pulling through a place like labs etc, I get down to about 25%, then I just hit my erudite regen spell and im back up to full =)<div></div>