Relic-bonus useless!

[subari]

<DIV>I was realy happy, when i lootet the item to get the relic-pants. I went down to the giant, got my cloth armor and looked at the stats..... what the fu....?! Undeath Tide recast -40 sec???????? USELESS!! I use this spell only for bossmobs or when i need an extra dam-boost. -40 sec on a recasttimer which is about 14 min, is imo completely useless! Who got this "glorious" idea for this crapy bonus? Give us please a bonus worth for this peace of armor!</DIV>

[Jal]

Relic = farmable armour. Its good for what it is be happy.

[KBern]

<P>All the focus effects on pretty much every class are useless.</P> <P>Get relic for the stat upgrade, not the focus.</P>

[Bamfa_dexter]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Jalek wrote:<BR>Relic = farmable armour. Its good for what it is be happy.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>/ammen</P> <P> </P> <P> </P>

[kenji]

at least Lifetap +60 dmg from chest piece....

[Jasuo]

<div></div> <span>:smileyindifferent:</span>  relic armor isn't worth crap in my eyes, dracomancer is much better as far as desirable stats for a necro go. (speaking only for entry-level fabled) Not trying to pull away a good thing from the more casual players, but due to all the arguments that armor has brought up I sometimes wish it would be removed from the game. Even with the zones redone to make it "harder"  (<==note the quotes around harder before you flame about how easy it is) to obtain, it's common place to see anyone and everyone with relic gear. (next sentence is a generalized statement not neccessarily directed at any poster here...unless shoe fits) And now to see casual folks trying to complain about how its stats are crap..<span>:smileysad:</span> ...what about when you thought you were leet because you wore GEBs?<div></div>

[Colossaltitan]

If your in a raid primarily for your DPS, Relic Robe is the best for a Necromancer, hands down.<BR><BR>Given that the easiest acquirable raid robe in the game for a Necromancer is relic, I wouldn't complain.

[Gargamel]

It really should beUndead Tide: Recast Timer -5minI must agree though.  40s quicker on a spell you have to 'plan' on when to cast (ie timer usually up between fights, or used at start of fight) is useless.At least with -5min (33% reduction in recast) putting it at 10min would mean you can cast it every 4th fight instead of every 6th or whatever might be the case.<div></div>

[kezef]

About 50% of the time when I use undead tide I pull aggro.  Decreasing the reuse timer by 5 min would only cost me more in repair costs.  Would have much rather seen a +100 to transfer life or a 10 sec decrease on the recast of revive.<div></div>

[Audabon]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> kezef76 wrote:<BR>About 50% of the time when I use undead tide I pull aggro.  Decreasing the reuse timer by 5 min would only cost me more in repair costs.  Would have much rather seen a +100 to transfer life or a 10 sec decrease on the recast of revive.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>same here but fd only has a 5 minute recast <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> as soon as i pull agro ( which isnt always) i just fd for a few and let tank get it back. i then pop up and continue on<BR>

[kezef]

Well in theory  I try to do the same thing too.  My problem is that 45 seconds after I fd and stand up occasionally I still have aggro.<div></div>

[kenji]

<DIV>u need a better tank , really.</DIV>

[Audabon]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> kenjiso wrote:<BR> <DIV>u need a better tank , really.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I can honestly say I think we have the best 2 gaurdians on our server hands down. but if someone does 2500 dps you might have an agro issue / as i have hit that when using undead tide <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> im no wizard so I dont get the amends or threat transfers as sorcerers tend to get. so agro happens <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[IA~CHAOS]

<div><blockquote><hr>Audabon wrote:<div></div> <blockquote> <hr> kenjiso wrote: <div>u need a better tank , really.</div> <hr> </blockquote>I can honestly say I think we have the best 2 gaurdians on our server hands down. but if someone does 2500 dps you might have an agro issue / as i have hit that when using undead tide <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> im no wizard so I dont get the amends or threat transfers as sorcerers tend to get. so agro happens <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><hr></blockquote>your just a cute little necro noob, thats all =)  But honestly , Troub,Dirge,Coerc.  plus 2 Items that proc around 600 average hate on successful attack.  I find I have to push 2k+ on a single target to even consider getting agro.  And we spit that hate with our pet, kinda.  Feel bad for the swash that is up there with me and is by himself. </div>

[kenji]

<P>i was replying the 1 FD 45 sec and still have aggro, i am quite sure they need a better tank</P> <P>i can also pull aggro off sometimes but not FD 45 sec =)</P>

[johnathanb]

Or arrange the their MT group with better agro transfer (coercer/Assassin). 

[Colossaltitan]

Just get Synergism(Illusionist) Troubador(-40% hate reduc) or even coercer Harmonius Link(-23%) hate gain :p.