View Full Version : Which Master spell should i choose at level 14/24/34/44/54/64?
ArgaenDK
07-08-2006, 11:26 PM
Hello.I'm a lvl 15 necro, but I still haven't chosen my level 14 master spell, cuz I simply can't figure out which spell would be the best choice.I've found Aggresion Master 1 on a mob, so there's no need to pick that one.Which spell should I choose? I'm leaning against Repair Bones.I'm mostly soloing, haven't tried grouping yet.Also just so I don't have to search each 10th level, which spells should I choose at level 24/34/44/54/64?<div></div>
Arrowheart
07-09-2006, 12:54 AM
<DIV><SPAN>This is my opinions on the options, the order I would rank them in, and if an option is worth adept 3 even though I wouldnt master 2 it I noted that along with it.</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN>14 - Minion's Stance: Grisly Defense (Pet Defense Stance) - 1st choice</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN><SPAN>14 - Repair Bones (Pet heal)</SPAN> - 2nd choice (must have adept 3 if you do not master 2 it)</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN><SPAN>20 - Lifetap (Damages target, heals Necromancer)</SPAN> - 1st choice (must have adept 3 if you do not master 2 it)<BR><SPAN>23 - Swarm of Rats (Swarm Pet: Two fetid rats, One Blight Rat)</SPAN> - 2nd choice (definately adept 3 this if you do not master 2 it)</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN></SPAN><SPAN><SPAN>28 - Grisly Brace (Pet Defense Stance)</SPAN> - 3rd choice (best to adept 3 this at 28 rather than wait for the master 2 at 34)<BR><SPAN>30 - Breath of the Unearthed (Point-Blank AoE Lifetap)</SPAN> - 2nd choice (very nice choice but situational definately adept 3 it tho if you do not master 2 it)<BR><SPAN>33 - Transfer Life (Transfers Necromancer health to target) - 1st choice (use this alot as a pet heal plus can be used on group members)</SPAN></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN><SPAN></SPAN></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN><SPAN><SPAN>39 - Words of the Wicked (Pet Offense Stance)</SPAN> - worth an adept 3 if you group alot, not a good master 2 choice for solo however<BR><SPAN>40 - Rending Frenzy (Pet Buff) - worth an adept 3 but not master 2</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN><SPAN><SPAN></SPAN><SPAN>42 - Necrotic Mending (Drains Necromancer Health to Pet Over Time)</SPAN> - 2nd choice (definately at least adept 3 it)<BR><SPAN>42 - Grisly Stele (Pet Defense Stance) - 1st choice</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN><SPAN><SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN><SPAN><SPAN><SPAN>50 - Siphon Life (Damages target, heals Necromancer)</SPAN> - 1st choice (definately adept 3 if you do not master 2 it)<BR><SPAN>51 - Blighted Pack (Swarm Pet: Three hellhounds)</SPAN> - 2nd choice (definately at least adept 3 this one)<BR><SPAN>53 - Voice of the Departed (Pet Offense Stance) - worth an adept 3 if you group but not a good choice for a soloer</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN><SPAN><SPAN><SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN><SPAN><SPAN><SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN><SPAN><SPAN><SPAN><SPAN>61 - Displace Life (Transfers Necromancer health to target)</SPAN> - 2nd choice (definately at least adept 3 it)<BR><SPAN>63 - Awaken Grave (Swarm Pet: Zombie Minion)</SPAN> - definately adept 3 this, but would only rate this as 3rd as a choice behind the other options<BR><SPAN>64 - Abate Life (Damages target, heals Necromancer)</SPAN> - 1st choice (definately at least adept 3 it)<BR><SPAN>64 - Torrential Pestilence (Encounter-based AoE Disease DoT)</SPAN> - not a high priority but worth an adept 3<BR></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></DIV></SPAN>
Noct1234
07-11-2006, 12:25 AM
Regarding pet heals, I have found if you need to cast a pet heal, you are most likely to lose the fight anyway. If you need your pet to take one more hit, an M2 will probably not do anything that an Adept 1 cannot. This was before LU24 so the situation might have changed a bit. Pet heals lose effectiveness very fast as you level, while Grisly Defense gives HP and hate percentages, so it maintains effectiveness as your pet levels. Let's face it: in a group, killing ^^^, if your mage pet gains aggro, your pet heal In my opinion, chosing Grisly Defense at 14 is the only real choice if you solo at all. Once you have that, you can decide whether Brace at 28 and Stele at 42 are worth the upgrade, potentially freeing up future M2 choices. I would personally recommend skipping Brace at 28; there are too many other good choices and you are already 6 levels past it. I also agree with M2 transfer life at 33. Try using it while soloing with your scout pet. <div></div>
I have a 25 necro on nagafen and this helps me immensly <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Great posts thank you for the advice.<div></div>
Tokam
07-11-2006, 01:29 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Arrowheart wrote:<BR> <DIV><SPAN>This is my opinions on the options, the order I would rank them in, and if an option is worth adept 3 even though I wouldnt master 2 it I noted that along with it.</SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN>14 - Minion's Stance: Grisly Defense (Pet Defense Stance) - <FONT color=#cc00cc>This one, dead pet usually means dead necro</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN></SPAN><SPAN><SPAN>14 - Repair Bones (Pet heal)</SPAN> - <FONT color=#cc00cc>you cant heal pets fast enough to make this worthwile, m2 and you will just get aggro</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN><SPAN>20 - Lifetap (Damages target, heals Necromancer)</SPAN> - <FONT color=#cc00cc>This one! bigger lifetaps offsets damage you do to yourself with pet / player heals</FONT><BR><SPAN>23 - Swarm of Rats (Swarm Pet: Two fetid rats, One Blight Rat)</SPAN> - </SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN><FONT color=#cc00cc>21 - Favour of the fallen - power buff, dont bother</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN><FONT color=#cc00cc>22 - Blight - cant remember if its the pbaoe or the group dot or the zombie pet, still get the lifetap</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN></SPAN><SPAN><SPAN>28 - Grisly Brace (Pet Defense Stance)</SPAN> - <FONT color=#cc00cc>This one, makes for safer soloing - pet off tanking in groups etc<BR></FONT><SPAN>30 - Breath of the Unearthed (Point-Blank AoE Lifetap)</SPAN> -<BR><SPAN>33 - Transfer Life (Transfers Necromancer health to target) - <FONT color=#cc00cc>a waste of a m2 imo</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN><SPAN><FONT color=#cc00cc>31 - Withering Affliction, long duration single target DoT, not worth it</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN><SPAN></SPAN></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN><SPAN><SPAN>39 - Words of the Wicked (Pet Offense Stance)</SPAN> - <FONT color=#cc00cc>2nd choice<BR></FONT><SPAN>40 - Rending Frenzy (Pet Buff) - <FONT color=#cc00cc>a waste of an m2</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN><SPAN><SPAN></SPAN><SPAN>42 - Necrotic Mending (Drains Necromancer Health to Pet Over Time)</SPAN> -<BR><SPAN>42 - Grisly Stele (Pet Defense Stance) - <FONT color=#cc00cc>I chose this one, because I wouldnt need to upgrade it for ages</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN><SPAN><SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN><SPAN><SPAN><SPAN>50 - Siphon Life (Damages target, heals Necromancer)</SPAN> -<BR><SPAN>51 - Blighted Pack (Swarm Pet: Three hellhounds)</SPAN> - <FONT color=#cc00cc>will not provide as much of a dps increase as picking the offensive stance would</FONT><BR><SPAN>53 - Voice of the Departed (Pet Offense Stance) - <FONT color=#cc00cc>this will provide the biggest dps increase to your necro</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN><SPAN><SPAN><SPAN><FONT color=#cc00cc>54 - Sta / Int group buff, a 2nd choice as the extra sta is important for necros, but you should probably pick the offensive stance.</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN><SPAN><SPAN><SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN><SPAN><SPAN><SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN><SPAN><SPAN><SPAN><SPAN>61 - Displace Life (Transfers Necromancer health to target)</SPAN> - <FONT color=#cc00cc>no</FONT><BR><SPAN>63 - Awaken Grave (Swarm Pet: Zombie Minion)</SPAN> - <FONT color=#cc00cc>no</FONT><BR><SPAN>64 - Abate Life (Damages target, heals Necromancer)</SPAN> - <FONT color=#cc00cc>ALWAYS<BR></FONT><SPAN>64 - Torrential Pestilence (Encounter-based AoE Disease DoT)</SPAN> - <FONT color=#cc00cc>no</FONT><BR></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></DIV></SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><FONT color=#cc00cc>Added my own thoughts to this list, but what you choose is really dependant on your play style (mine would be pve solo / raid)</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#cc00cc>Edit: Many thanks for Arrowheart for typing the list out :smileyhappy:</FONT><BR></P><p>Message Edited by Sulpeel on <span class=date_text>07-11-2006</span> <span class=time_text>10:30 AM</span>
Noct1234
07-12-2006, 12:23 AM
Just one comment about 64, I see Master 1 Abate Life on the broker all the time, and for cheap. This is probably because 90%+ of necros choose it as an M2. The M1 is almost identical to the M2. Do yourself a favor and buy the M1 Abate Life and free up your M2 at 64. <div></div>
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