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Ganna
01-17-2006, 01:17 PM
perhaps anyone can help memy rotting thrall doesn´t tankits adept I and when i party with my friend, whos a fury, the pet doesn´t hold aggro, one groupheal or ae and the rt looses all aggroits worse the higher the mobs are.<div></div>
Pets will never be a replacement for a real tank. Get it adept3, put it in defensive, and that helps a bit, but it will NEVER hold aggro as good as a proper tank can.<div></div>
Eesti
01-17-2006, 03:43 PM
there is also quite a difference if you upgrade the petbuffs, upgrade the deffesive buff to Adept 3 and it will hold aggro much better.<div></div>
Adaianu Steelwind
01-18-2006, 12:35 AM
<div></div><p>I too have witnessed this, as soon as i finally got my rotting thral spell I summoned him up (Adept 3) and went to slaughter (in my mind) the stuff I had been doing fine killing with the previous pet. To my surprise, the thrall can't hold agro at all and takes damage VERY fast. Faster then I can heal him with my pet heal and transfer life. There is something not right about the upgraded pet being far worse then the pet before it. Not once has he done a taunt that I've seen, and he "berserks" which is about useless since he's in defensive stance. He has a ton of hp, but really bad mitigation, or thats what it appears to be.</p><p> </p><p>As note, all my spells are adept 3 or master 1.</p>
Tharangus
01-18-2006, 12:55 AM
<div>You know something... I noticed a simillar issue going from rotting thrall to diseased servant when I hit 52. It had problems mantaining hate... etc... etc. As I progressed in level, things got better, though.</div>
Adaianu Steelwind
01-18-2006, 01:17 AM
<div></div>But a 38 pet should be better then a 28 pet AT lvl 38. The spells are both adept 3 and the 28 pet outperforms my new one while being a level lower (37) due to his cap. How does that make sense?
Tharangus
01-18-2006, 01:41 AM
<div></div><div></div><div>*shrugs* Do you recall how the UA performed at say... 24? I'm not sure, but I have a theory that there is a bit of a performance gap that occurs when the tank pet upgrades. That is... it's entirely possible that Tellurian Recruit level 23 will outperform UA at 24... and that UA at 37 outperforms RT at 38. Then RT at 51 outperforms the RT at 52.</div><div> </div><div>The only way I would know for sure is if I had the exact numbers on what each of the pet's taunts are supposed to do at those levels. I believe that its stats are scaling by level and therefore the upgrade will not outperform the previous tank pet until it gains another level or two. All I have here is a theory and no real way to prove it.</div><p>Message Edited by Tharangus on <span class="date_text">01-17-2006</span><span class="time_text">03:42 PM</span></p>
Dreka
01-18-2006, 02:12 AM
<div></div><p>I to noticed the my 52 Tank pet takes along time to get agro off me, now I use it to pull I find once it has agro its hard to get it off it so my advice always use the pet to pull.</p><p>As for HP / Dammage resistance I dont think its any better than the previous Tank pet.</p>
Ganna
01-18-2006, 11:05 AM
<div></div><p>seems really its getting better when i progress in lvl.</p><p>has anyone an idea if pets get new attacks when summoner is progressing?</p>
Tharangus
01-18-2006, 07:00 PM
<div></div><blockquote><hr>Ganna wrote:<div></div><p>seems really its getting better when i progress in lvl.</p><p>has anyone an idea if pets get new attacks when summoner is progressing?</p><hr></blockquote><p>This is exactly what I thought was going on and my brother told me something last night that I believe supports this. In the early days of his shadowknight career, taunt upgrades would scale in quality as you progressed. When a taunt was upgraded, it actually started out being worse than the taunt from the previous tier. It wasn't until you "grew into" the new taunt that it became more effective.</p><p>So I believe there is some scaling going on with our pets that works in much the same way. It's not until we "grow into" our new pet that it actually becomes more effective than the previous pet. At least, that is my theory.</p>
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