Problem with Plague of Rats

[Ockam]

Greetings everyone, It seems that the Plague of Rats "parasitic infestation" attack likes to target mobs outside of an encounter after today's patch.  For instance, I just attacked a bear in EL, pulled it to Deputy Farweed, cast my rats, and within seconds one of the rats attacked Farweed.  Is anyone aware if this is an intended change? Thanks, -Ockam <div></div>

[Morduth]

<DIV>Yup, having the same issue in RE with Plauge of Rats.  Agroing from behind walls etc.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Apocal</DIV>

[Xalmat]

Word from Lockeye is that this is an unintended change. Expect it to be fixed soon.

[sneakli]

<P>Appearanty the whole line of rats does it now. I'm a lowbee and my swarm of rats just wiped me in Varsoons.</P> <P>Hope it's quick to get fixed, at this point it's still my best spell.</P>

[Mekrath]

<DIV>Yeah I found that out this morning when I sent my rats in on a solo mob in Feerott and within seconds had half the zone on me <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>On the bright side, I didn't have to go back and get my shard <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[bezerker_]

<DIV>Dang This morning D/L a little patch was hoping that fix was in it isnt... As a lower level necro (29) you live by the rats this is BS literally cuts my offense in 1/2 This eneds a quick fix tired of dying.....</DIV>

[Grayswand]

<P>I'm really glad someone else noticed this too.  I couldn't figure out why I was aggroing neutral ^^^ mobs as I was hunting near them in EF today.  Had to use my Feign Death a few times before I realized what was happening!</P> <P>I hope this one gets fixed quickly!</P> <P> </P>

[Alfgand]

<DIV>Well what do you expect from rats anyhow. lol</DIV>

[Grayswand]

<DIV>Are you referring to SOE, or the rats themselves?  <chuckles></DIV>

[gr8scott]

<P>Does this happen with the dogs also or only with the rats?</P> <P>GS</P>

[Klu]

I was hoping they were fixing it with the mini update today but they havn't. It's a shame too, as my most used spell I know find I can't use it in many circumstances and its making me question whether Master II was a good choice for it now that its semi situational. <div></div>

[Za]

<blockquote><hr>Klund wrote:I was hoping they were fixing it with the mini update today but they havn't. It's a shame too, as my most used spell I know find I can't use it in many circumstances and its making me question whether Master II was a good choice for it now that its semi situational. <div></div><hr></blockquote>It's semi-situational becasue its been bugged for 2 days?Wow...Dud, its a good power...

[Klu]

<span><blockquote><hr>Zald wrote:<blockquote><hr>Klund wrote:I was hoping they were fixing it with the mini update today but they havn't. It's a shame too, as my most used spell I know find I can't use it in many circumstances and its making me question whether Master II was a good choice for it now that its semi situational. <div></div><hr></blockquote>It's semi-situational becasue its been bugged for 2 days?Wow...Dud, its a good power...<hr></blockquote>That doesnt mean its not a situational power. One person has said it was an unintended change and I have not seen that said anywhere else, so unless you can link some proof that this indeed is not intentional then whats to say it won't be like this for some time to come. I say its situational because all pbaoe's ARE situational, whether or not its a great ability or not. I like to think if it was an unintentional change that they would fix it soon but I'm also not holding my breath and counting on a /respec some time in the future to change out this master II before I upgrade another for adept III.</span><div></div>

[Grayswand]

Anyone heard anything about a fix for this issue?  This bug is really annoying...

[Hirf]

Thanks a lot for posting this, it explains a great deal.  The other necromancer and I were having 'difficulties' with this in RE and EL today.<div></div>

[KERSTYNN]

<DIV> Just to clarify ...."Swarm of Rats" is not an AOE of anytype, its a single target dumbfire spell. I personally had not noticed any problems with it  until thinking back to a fight I had near the docks of Nektulos. Hopefully they either fix the problem or if they are changing it form a dumbfire to an area effect they post the changes and change the icon background color from red to green (encounter only aoe) or blue (open radius aoe).</DIV>

[Klu]

I wouldn't mind it so much if the pbaoe only triggered at the start, as it does already. I would just have to be more carefull when pulling and not use it in several circumstances. But what its doing for me atleast is the ability is triggering at different times during the fight, in turn agroing gray or passive mobs that just happen to wander by when they decide to use their pbaoe ability. Since the swarm lasts so long this is a hassle, having to keep an eye on anything walking near so I can cancel the swarm. <div></div>

[Icewolf99]

still bugged as of today, rats agroed the whole room in Harclaves and got me killed, now i have to wait forever to try it again..... <div></div>

[vikingsro]

<div></div>Ive tried to find a place that was safe to use the rats, but there isnt one !! The range of this unintended AoE is massive and deadly everytime, removed the spell from my bar until its fixed ~sigh~ <div></div><p>Message Edited by vikingsrock on <span class=date_text>12-05-2005</span> <span class=time_text>01:18 AM</span>

[Highlandji]

Any word from the Dev's yet on a fix? I searched and found this thread after I attracted the attention of a load of mobs in Fallen Gate, ooooh it hurt <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> thought they had made Swarm of Rats AoE in the last update, thank god i was wrong... <div></div>

[Xalmat]

It's fixed on Test. More than likely getting hotfixed on the December 5 update.

[djhbeek]

oh good, i was just trying out my necro alt, and was wondering what was causing the adds ... <div></div>

[Klu]

I'm not sure exactly what this means but AB server is down and so I checked the update notes and it says update for (oddly) December 6th 7am : ------------- <span class="headline">Update Notes :<i> 12/6/2005 7:00 aM</i></span> <p>*** Items ***- Certain creatures will no longer drop spells as often.*** Spells and Combat Arts ***- NPC spells that were previously intended to slow targets but instead sped them up will now work correctly.- Pets that were using water elemental, fire elemental, plague rat, and hyena creature abilities will no longer use them.</p> <p>-The EverQuest II Team</p> ------------- So does our swarm line fall under the "pets" category in that they will no longer use plague rat abilities? Which should fix our problem? <div></div>

[djhbeek]

<span><blockquote><hr>Klund wrote:I'm not sure exactly what this means but AB server is down and so I checked the update notes and it says update for (oddly) December 6th 7am : ------------- <span class="headline">Update Notes :<i> 12/6/2005 7:00 aM</i></span> <p>*** Items ***- Certain creatures will no longer drop spells as often.*** Spells and Combat Arts ***- NPC spells that were previously intended to slow targets but instead sped them up will now work correctly.- Pets that were using water elemental, fire elemental, plague rat, and hyena creature abilities will no longer use them.</p> <p>-The EverQuest II Team</p> ------------- So does our swarm line fall under the "pets" category in that they will no longer use plague rat abilities? Which should fix our problem? <div></div><hr></blockquote>i think so ... i think what happenned is when they gave animals their own specific abilities, they gave rats an open AE, in altering the mobs, they unintentionally changed the necro swarm pets, which are probably based on the mobs ...</span><div></div>

[KERSTYNN]

<DIV>Haven't been in-game to check it yet, but I hope its fixed. I'll have to re-read the spell descriptor, but I can't for the life of me figure out why they would give a dumbfire spell creature a pbaoe ability, when my understanding of a dumbfire is that it is basically a DOT with a 'live component' or creature graphic, if you will. Lets hope whoever the brainchild behind that idea, gets a lobotomy.   :smileywink:</DIV>

[Klu]

It seems to be fixed, I was using it to pull with out of large groups just to make sure and got no adds so it seems to be working fine now. <div></div>

[dlsknight]

<DIV>Hope that it is fixed, this is the first time that I read the forum and noticed this.  Was wondering why I had all my aggro's in EL.  It took several minutes of casting different spells to figure out that it was the rats.  All of a sudden had swarms of turtles, ferries and badgers chasing me down.  Was also glad there was no shard recovery, but the debt sucks.</DIV>