Power or HP regen? What is better on lev50?

[Brutu]

<DIV>Iam closing to the lev 50 and Iam curious if it would be worth to /respec after getting Lich to change power regen traits into HP regen?</DIV>

[Divine Pow]

<P>I went with the health regen for both traits - it works great in combat and i never run oop. But i also just got lich master hmmmm . stob braggin Divine <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P> </P> <P>still either way, i find health regen would be best - of course we can siphon health, but i was having alot of health problems before i repeced into health regen - it makes combat a lot easier this way</P>

[lancekortesoja]

go with power, you will need it even with lich <div></div>

[Xalmat]

Power Regeneration is your lifeblood. The more you have the more damage you can put out. You can never have enough of it.Besides, the training choices are in-combat regeneration, which is invaluable. HP regeneration shouldn't be a problem (afterall, you're a Necromancer, you can simply Lifetap your enemy! <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> )

[Urbanna]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Xalmat wrote:<BR>Power Regeneration is your lifeblood. The more you have the more damage you can put out. You can never have enough of it.<BR><BR>Besides, the training choices are in-combat regeneration, which is invaluable. HP regeneration shouldn't be a problem (afterall, you're a Necromancer, you can simply Lifetap your enemy! <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> )<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>No way. HP regen....power regen is cake. We have both lich and can tap our pet for power (or use a manastone/heart...which also takes more health heh) ....however, lich sucks health like mad and we can't always go all out nuking to get it back. We also inherintly have more power than health to begin with, so regening health would be more valuable. Health is also a more important stat since without it, you die...whereas without power, you FD heh. Also, there seems to be alot more items with power regen mods than health, so health regen is more at a premium. Lastly, when in a raid or a well-built group, you will get great power regen from bards/chanters (for free since it's a buff and not a spell)...but getting more health is dependant on someone else's power pool.</P> <P>So go health.</P> <p>Message Edited by Urbannaja on <span class=date_text>10-22-2005</span> <span class=time_text>10:39 AM</span>

[Nainitsuj]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Urbannaja wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Xalmat wrote:<BR>Power Regeneration is your lifeblood. The more you have the more damage you can put out. You can never have enough of it.<BR><BR>Besides, the training choices are in-combat regeneration, which is invaluable. HP regeneration shouldn't be a problem (afterall, you're a Necromancer, you can simply Lifetap your enemy! <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> )<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>No way. HP regen....power regen is cake. We have both lich and can tap our pet for power (or use a manastone/heart...which also takes more health heh) ....however, lich sucks health like mad and we can't always go all out nuking to get it back. We also inherintly have more power than health to begin with, so regening health would be more valuable. Health is also a more important stat since without it, you die...whereas without power, you FD heh. Also, there seems to be alot more items with power regen mods than health, so health regen is more at a premium. Lastly, when in a raid or a well-built group, you will get great power regen from bards/chanters (for free since it's a buff and not a spell)...but getting more health is dependant on someone else's power pool.</P> <P>So go health.</P> <P>Message Edited by Urbannaja on <SPAN class=date_text>10-22-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>10:39 AM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Power, easily.  If you're worried about health then something's gone wrong and it's time to turn off lich while you're FD.  Hearts/Manastone and pet taping isn't a reliable source of power anymore.  Lich also doesn't take as much health as people here claim.  I leave it up (Master 1) all day.  Even when I go afk for a few hours.  Simple necro, no health regen items, no food, no potions, no totems.  After 6 hours of leaving it up untouched my health is at 92%</P> <P>But if you're unsure, go half and half.</P>

[Fierce Ra]

I went the in-combat power regen.  I leave Lich up all the time and I don't really worry about my health.  I haven't bought one food or drink item since level 20.  Never had needed it since that level.  I say go with power because in long fights, like raid mobs, you will want as much power as you can get your hands on.  Also the robe of the invoker is another good in-combat power regen tool you can get.  Too bad that it grays out when you hit level 55 I think. 

[XBr]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Xalmat wrote:<BR>Power Regeneration is your lifeblood. The more you have the more damage you can put out. You can never have enough of it.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>Um, yes you can. The hard cap on in-combat power regen is 1.5 points/tick x level, so 90 pts/tick at level 60. Topi's Master Lich regens 2% of her power pool per tick. Self-buffed including ring and food, she has 4882 power. So Lich alone is 98 pts.  I don't need any other power regen items, traits, or buffs.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I haven't done my respec yet coz I can't decide between total power pool buff and health regen buff.</DIV>

[Urbanna]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Nainitsuj wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Urbannaja wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Xalmat wrote:<BR>Power Regeneration is your lifeblood. The more you have the more damage you can put out. You can never have enough of it.<BR><BR>Besides, the training choices are in-combat regeneration, which is invaluable. HP regeneration shouldn't be a problem (afterall, you're a Necromancer, you can simply Lifetap your enemy! <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> )<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>No way. HP regen....power regen is cake. We have both lich and can tap our pet for power (or use a manastone/heart...which also takes more health heh) ....however, lich sucks health like mad and we can't always go all out nuking to get it back. We also inherintly have more power than health to begin with, so regening health would be more valuable. Health is also a more important stat since without it, you die...whereas without power, you FD heh. Also, there seems to be alot more items with power regen mods than health, so health regen is more at a premium. Lastly, when in a raid or a well-built group, you will get great power regen from bards/chanters (for free since it's a buff and not a spell)...but getting more health is dependant on someone else's power pool.</P> <P>So go health.</P> <P>Message Edited by Urbannaja on <SPAN class=date_text>10-22-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>10:39 AM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Power, easily.  If you're worried about health then something's gone wrong and it's time to turn off lich while you're FD.  Hearts/Manastone and pet taping isn't a reliable source of power anymore.  Lich also doesn't take as much health as people here claim.  I leave it up (Master 1) all day.  Even when I go afk for a few hours.  Simple necro, no health regen items, no food, no potions, no totems.  After 6 hours of leaving it up untouched my health is at 92%</P> <P>But if you're unsure, go half and half.</P> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Not talking about out of combat (they fixed it so that lich cannot kill you...just take you to 1 health then turns off). In combat, the only ways to get health is from heals, and lifetaps. Heals cost someone else power, lifetaps cost you agro (which you don't need any more of in a long fight). You can get power in combat from buffs, manastones, pet taps, hearts, and several easy to get items. If I'm running low on power, that usually means I'm very close to being the target of full agro, in which case, I'm going to need the extra health soon anyways heh.<BR>

[Nainitsuj]

<P>Hearts cost me health (though they're pointless to use).  Tapping the pet costs me health (gotta heal it, no one else will) Manastone and manastone 2.0 cost me health.  Either way we look at it, something's gonna heal me.  (It's what they do anyways.  It's like arguing that we have to use power to hurt the target)</P> <P>In raid groups Lich is usually enough to keep me up combined with life taps and spells.  I have to cast them anyways or the good for nothing chanter reports me for being the lowest DPS in the encounter.  My guild knows this.  The healers know not to heal me unless im at the bottom of the orange.  That's usually when the encounter ends anyways and I use my food.  If you know how to manage your HP you don't have to worry about being low in health at the end of each battle.  On average, at the end of a raid encounter I'll have somewhere in the range of 60 to 80% health left over.  (Depends a lot on how much I pick up the slack for my warden friend)</P> <P>I honestly don't understand why the HP regen vs Power regen is even being argued.  It's not as if we're tanking the mob here.  It's not like the extra 10 to hp per tic is going to keep us alive when the tank falls asleep and we're the new tank.   It's apparent that even with master lich up it's not enough to kill us.  (Unless you decided to stop casting all together)</P> <DIV>*Also, it's nice to know lich can no longer kill us.  I didn't know this.  And it'd be nice if we couldn't be hit by AOE while in a successful FD.</DIV>

[Divine Pow]

<P>How often are you low in health versus low in power? That is one way to answer yuor question of which to go with.</P> <P>I find that people say that a "good" necro doesn't have to worry about the health drain from lich. A good necro will use their lifetaps and all that to keep up in power but there are often situations when you don't want to be doing that. I repeced to health regen and have found it to be alot better.</P>

[Nibbl]

<P>Took health regen on both options, no regrets here <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>Power is never an issue with lich or tapping pet.</P>

[El Chupacabr]

They're both reasonable options, neither health regen nor power regen is a bad choice though I may respec into health regen... if lich were a set amount for the damage it inflicts every six seconds I'd say power all the way.  Unfortunately, in a high health and stamina buffing group the per tic damage of lich gets to be atrocious with the lifetap values not going up.  I've had lich hitting me for over 200 damage per tic before and that is certainly no joke, especially if you start dropping exchange life's. <P></P>

[Boran]

Went for STA and HP regen and it's working out fine. However, I haven't done any raids yet so will keep my respec just in case.

[Chog]

<P></P> <P>Just wanted to add some information.  Trebadours and Berserkers both have incombat health regeneration for the group.  So Power is not the only source of health replenishment in a group.</P>

[Tzen]

I've been pondering this for awhile now.  I took the power regen, but been debating on respecing to get health regen.  Right now I'm spending money on food just to level out my hp loss.  It's usually not a problem losing health with lich on, but sometimes I'll forget to watch my health, and if someone in group is off fighting somewhere else, or I'm afk and don't cance lich my health with plummet.  I usually never run out of power anyway, so that's not an issue.

[Mephli]

<DIV>  I took increased power pool because lich regens a % of your total power pool, so in essence I'm gaining more total power and a bit more power regen.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>  "BUT" I'm seriously considering taking health regen for my respec, as stated above there are several flowing thought items in game but few regen items.  Plus I hate ending a fight in the yellow and my health stays there bouncing back and forth, I dislike using food (even though its very nice) to regen health over lich when out of combat.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>  Really health regen seems to be more conveinence than anything, more than likely regening 100 hp in a fight is not going save any necro if it goes bad (even though the length of some raid fights it might make a diff).</DIV>