What spells are most important? What should be the first AdeptIII ?

[Brutu]

Iam looking for info how the best use harvested rares (T3-T4).I have got 2x T3 and 3x T4 rare for ink so Iam looking for advice how to use them: <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Iam lev 36 and my idea looks like:T31. Pestilental blast2. ???T41. Rotting Thrall2. Plague of Rats3. Draw Lifeis this good idea? What would you suggest?TY in advance<p>Message Edited by Brutus7 on <span class=date_text>09-21-2005</span> <span class=time_text>01:55 PM</span>

[Xalmat]

Tier 3:Undying AdherentGrim SpellbinderSwarm of Rats (unless you get the Master 2 choice)Grisly Brace (unless you get the Master 2 choice later on)Boon of the LifelessTier 4:Rotting ThrallGrim ThulianShadowy StalkerPlague of RatsGhastly StenchWords of the Wicked (unless you get Master 2 choice)Swarm of Bats*EDIT* Just wanted to add I finished writing up my take on every Necro spell from 1 to 60, as far as upgrading to Adept III goes. Read it at <a href=http://eq2.eqsummoners.com/viewtopic.php?t=1894 target=_blank>The Summoner's Tower</a><p>Message Edited by Xalmat on <span class=date_text>09-21-2005</span> <span class=time_text>04:20 PM</span>

[Viln]

<P>I have a similar question: I have a Jasper, which I was going to use for a Undying adherent adept 3. But because of the broker nerf, I couldn't buy the advanced book, and I took advantage of the xp bonus, and went from 22 to 30 in about 8 hours. (my zombie never stopped running, lol!)</P> <P>Now I don't know if it will still be worth it though: should I make the spell and sell it? Or will it still be usefull to me until I get the next tank pet? (I solo a good 90% of the game, btw.) Thanks for any advice.</P>

[Brutu]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Xalmat wrote:<BR>Tier 3:<BR>Undying Adherent<BR>Grim Spellbinder<BR>Swarm of Rats (unless you get the Master 2 choice)<BR>Grisly Brace (unless you get the Master 2 choice later on)<BR>Boon of the Lifeless<BR><BR>Tier 4:<BR>Rotting Thrall<BR>Grim Thulian<BR>Shadowy Stalker<BR>Plague of Rats<BR>Ghastly Stench<BR>Words of the Wicked (unless you get Master 2 choice)<BR>Swarm of Bats<BR><BR>*EDIT* Just wanted to add I finished writing up my take on every Necro spell from 1 to 60, as far as upgrading to Adept III goes. Read it at <A href="http://eq2.eqsummoners.com/viewtopic.php?t=1894" target=_blank>The Summoner's Tower</A> <P>Message Edited by Xalmat on <SPAN class=date_text>09-21-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>04:20 PM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Nice list - I was looking for something like this <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> thanks. <DIV>I have one question though - [Removed for Content] is Swarm of Bats? Iam lev 36 and never seen this one?<BR></DIV>

[Urbanna]

<span><blockquote><hr>Xalmat wrote:Tier 3:Undying AdherentGrim SpellbinderSwarm of Rats (unless you get the Master 2 choice)Grisly Brace (unless you get the Master 2 choice later on)Boon of the LifelessTier 4:Rotting ThrallGrim ThulianShadowy StalkerPlague of RatsGhastly StenchWords of the Wicked (unless you get Master 2 choice)Swarm of Bats*EDIT* Just wanted to add I finished writing up my take on every Necro spell from 1 to 60, as far as upgrading to Adept III goes. Read it at <a href="http://eq2.eqsummoners.com/viewtopic.php?t=1894" target="_blank">The Summoner's Tower</a><p>Message Edited by Xalmat on <span class="date_text">09-21-2005</span> <span class="time_text">04:20 PM</span></p><hr></blockquote>Definitely disagree on a few</span><span> of those. My take (in order) T3: Undying Adherant Swarm of Rats Mend Bones (last heal over time until t5) Grisly Brace (last defensive stance until t5) Pestilatial Blast (the upgrade isn't very big) T4: Rotting Thrall (tank pet is always the most important) Plague of Rats (I'd suggest master 2) Draw Life (You'll be using this as your best self-heal and only direct nuke until 50...) Shadowy Stalker (MUCH more useful than grim thulian and for similar dps) Transfer Life (your only direct heal..will be very useful while grouping and soloing...2nd choice as master 2) Withering Affliction (longest lasting/highest non-pet DOT..and quick cast to boot) I wouldn't mess with Ghastly Stench, Words of the Wicked, Grim Thulian, or Swarm of Bats unless you have extra rares. Stench is nice, but along with Breath of the Unearthed it's situational for groups of mobs. The offensive stances are better if you group/raid constantly so those could be exchanged for the defensive stances if that's your playstyle. Grim Thulian takes longer to cast its spells, has less life, no avoidence, runs out of power quicker, and has a negligable DPS increase over the Stalker. Swarm of Bats is nice as a debuff when grouping against tough mobs but long casting time makes it much less useful now soloing or in short fights. Because of the very low mitigation of our pets, you'll have to heal often, and in order to heal, you need health. So the healing spells and siphon spells are essential when soloing or grouping without a priest. the Siphon spells are our only true nuke, and do more damage overall from our quick DOTs...so they are essential in really every situation.</span><div></div>

[Arogati]

My take as a 37 Necro...at least as far as t3 rares are concerned. Brutus, do NOT upgrade Swarm of Rats to Adept 3.  You get Plague of Rats at 37. I upgraded Undying Adherent to Adept3 when I was 36, and honestly kinda wish I hadn't.  Again, you'll replace it soon with Rotting Thrall at 38.  Make the judgement call there, on wether you feel it's worth it to upgrade a spell you'll soon be replacing.  I will say that UA Ad3 is an immense upgrade over Ad1.  You can actually use him to tank heroics in a group with a good healer.  I would suggest Mend Bones and Grisly Brace if you opt to hold out on rats and pets. As for Swarm of Bats, it's a lvl 35 Bloodline Chronicles DOT.  This spell is not auto-scribed at 35.  From what I hear there's a quest that you can do to recieve App1.  I'm not sure if the recipe was added to Sage Essentials 35 (28 Sage myself, and have been too lazy to go look at the book on the merchant to find out) or if there's a seperate book to recieve the recipe, but I bought it from the broker at App4 quality so it must exist in some book somewhere or other. <div></div>

[Brutu]

<P>Thank you for all these answers!</P> <P>I decided to go with following: (I have now 2x T3 ink and 4x T4 and Iam not planning to harvest for next few days/weeks - took mee soo much time to get these... <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>T3</P> <P>Pestiliental Blast</P> <P>Mend Bones</P> <P>T4</P> <P>Draw Life</P> <P>Plague of Rats</P> <P>Rotting Thrall</P> <P>Ghastly Stench</P> <P> </P> <P>I decided like this from various reasons:</P> <P>1) Iam 36 (37soon) so I will use T3 rares for spells Iam using and will not get upgraded in next 3-4 lev (thats why not pet and rats).</P> <P>2) I have Master2 Grisly Brace</P> <P>3) Iam 95% time soloing</P> <P>4) I do not have Swarm of Bats (did not get Bloodline chronicles) </P> <P> </P> <P> </P> <P> </P>

[Venome]

<DIV>I don't mean to detour from this positive/helpful thread, but when I read "What do get T3/4 Ad3?" I replace Ad3 with Ad1. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>So far I've had unbelievable luck getting the key Ad1 spells for 1-3g, (even Rotting Thrall Ad1 for 1g, hehe though I'm not quite there yet) but Ad3 spells are selling for 100-33.333(repeating of course) times that on my server, at the very least.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If I am not mistaken, the strategy is to mine for the rares and pay a sage to craft them. How much do sages typically charge for T3 and T4 combines? I've tried asking Sages that were LFW at the time how much they typically charge, but I haven't gotten any responses- for whatever reason =/ </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Dastion]

<DIV>I noticed that my Word of Force spell does a bit more damage than Ad1 Pest Blast, it upgrades with your level (unlike pest blast), and has a 10% chance to hit twice.  So since you're probably going to earn the Splitpaw Gnoll's trust anyways to have easy access to Harclaves, don't waste a rare upgrading a spell that is inferior.  I'll probably stick with Word of Force till 50 unless Skinrot proves to outdo it by a decent margin.  Of course, once you hit 50 you'll want to use Skinrot since it's disease based and works with lich <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[lancekortesoja]

your pet <div></div>