Lich?

[Gin]

<DIV> <P><SPAN>I have a question for my fellow necro's.</SPAN></P> <P><SPAN></SPAN> </P> <P><SPAN>Last night we had a guild grp going in DoF. We were 2 necros in that grp, so of course the necro talk was going on about our new spells ect.</SPAN></P> <P><SPAN>After a while I noticed, that I most often was much lower in health than the other necro when we were in battle, and this even thou I was casting my adpt3 siphon life every time it was up. So, naturally we talked about why that was. We were both using our adpt1 lich and tapping when we could. However, he said that his lich form proced like mad?, so I was kind of, what are you talking about? He continued by saying, that his flames around him increased a lot and when it did, he was gaining health at the same time. So naturally I was boggled, since I haven’t noticed that with my lich form, only my pet seemed to act in such a manner when it was in defensive stance.</SPAN></P> <P><SPAN></SPAN> </P> <P><SPAN>I then examined my lich spell, and saw that it is supposed to proc when a successful attack is landed or something like that. So, since im somehow not getting all those lich procs, can someone explain to me what it is that im not doing, which im supposed to do in order to have it procing please.</SPAN></P> <P><SPAN></SPAN> </P> <P><SPAN>Thanks guys. <SPAN> </SPAN></SPAN></P></DIV>

[betamurph]

<P>You should be getting the proc each time you land a disease based attack spell. At master I Lich procs and extra 332 dmg per spell and heals for 85hps</P> <P>So when i cast an AoE like Accursed Cloud, it does 533 dmg to each mob + 332 dmg to each mob for the lich proc which makes an enormous boost to our damage output (Note - It only procs on the initial landing of the spell, not on every tick of a DoT)</P> <P>As for not getting the proc.... I'm not sure what would cause this, have you tried soloing with it? maybe its some kind of necro stacking issue</P> <P>Skelly<BR>50 Necromancer - Grobb</P>

[evhallion]

I'm just guessing here, (too low lvl to know for sure) but would this be an example of Necro's spells not stacking? The other Necro had higher lvl spells that were canceling yours out, his landed and yours did not. When his landed he proced.  I was under the impression our spells, DoTs, etc would stack with other Necro's now but maybe it is bugged. Anyhow just a guess on what would cause this while grouping with another Necro.

[Gin]

<P>Well, about the stacking issue, that could be it, but I dont hope it!</P> <P> </P> <P>I will try and solo tonight, and see if I get the proc then.</P> <P>We grouped all night yesterday, so I dident get a chance to test it soloing</P>

[evhallion]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Ginan wrote:<BR> <P>Well, about the stacking issue, that could be it,<FONT color=#ff0000> but I dont hope it!</FONT></P> <P> </P> <P>I will try and solo tonight, and see if I get the proc then.</P> <P>We grouped all night yesterday, so I dident get a chance to test it soloing</P> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Nor I, but if that's it it needs to be found out now and /bugged. Being able to group with other necros is something I have looked forward to.<BR>

[Gin]

<P>As for the part about it having to be disease based attack spell, where is that stated?</P> <P>I dont remeber it saying that, when I examined the lich spell, but I may be mistaken there.</P>

[Gin]

<P>Had my body check that out in game just now, he said:</P><FONT size=2> <P>"on a succesfull hostile spell this spell will cast lich siphoning on target" </P> <P> </P> <P>So nothing about that it has to be disease.</P> <P> </P></FONT>

[betamurph]

<P>I don't think it actually says that anywhere, but as far as I can tell, only disease spells will make it proc. As an example, Swarm of Bats deals piercing damage and does not proc lich when i cast it. I could be wrong though.</P> <P>Skelly<BR>50 Necromancer - Grobb</P>

[Trollo]

<P>mine procs almost evry time i land a spell like its suposed too.. no errors here disease or not disease it still procs i have adept 1 of the spell and lich is acctually worth using now <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> kills mob in a heartbeat</P> <P> </P>

[krogareq]

<DIV>Lich only procs when you cast a spell.  Since lots of our damage is in the form of DoTs/Rats, just be sure you're looking at the first damage line from that spell.</DIV>

[Kizef_warri]

<DIV>Is lich effected by Spell level? I was thinking of getting the Adept3 of this spell. But I cant find anywhere if it has any effect on the proc or not.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks</DIV>

[schrammy]

<P>The proc dmg and the heal/tap will be more or less depending on the lvl of your lich.</P> <P> </P> <P>Someone here in this thread has posted the dmg for the M I version. I have the ad3 and it procs for about 280 dmg and heals for 50 i think. I am not sure since i am at work atm</P>

[krogareq]

<P>Level 50 Adept 1 Lich procs for 241 damage (average).</P> <P>I did an EQ Companion parse of a night of raid plowing.  My Lich's Siphoning was 53 DPS and my second highest contributor to my overall DPS behind Siphon Life (Adept1 too).</P> <P>It's worth upgrading IMO.</P> <P> </P>

[Rhafin]

<P>Ok guys, here is what I've found out while using my Lich Adept III spell. While the delve says any offensive spell, that's not quite the case. It will not go off when I cast swarm of bats. </P> <P> It does however go off when I use Terror, Horrific Mark, my stun, and of course any of my Necro based DD's and Dots. </P> <P> Where you will get the most mileage overall from this spell is when you cast Accursed Cloud or your lifetap. My Accursed Cloud hits for 668 in an aoe, add another 230+ to that from Lich, and it's hitting pretty  hard. My Lifetap is hitting for high 700's to low 800's. Add another 230+ to that, and it's hitting really [Removed for Content] hard. Those 2 spells are the basis for my entire offense anymore. Just be seriously careful about Accursed Cloud, as it's now a true aoe.</P> <P> I would love to see that damage an all necro group could do now, it would be insane. It's taken a bit of an adjustment to figure out what to do and when to do it since the changes, but imo overall we're far better off now (at least those of us over 40th level). My heart kind of cries out for you poor guys in the low 30's and below.</P> <P> Anyway, not sure why your health is lower, it could be the choices in spells you are using at the outset of the fight. The 2 big spells though stack just fine with other Necros as they're a DD spell and not a dot. I haven't really paid any attention to dots stackiing, I should get with my guildie and see if we are successful in that. </P> <P> </P>