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lbcre
09-14-2005, 07:13 PM
<DIV>With the addition of pure strain life taps, ghetto heals, and the clinging darkness line...I can't help but ask myself...isn't this the necro from EQ1 with some new skills?  Don't get me wrong...I wanted this type of necro from the start.  In my mind we should have had lifetaps etc from the day the game went live.  The real question is what happened to all that "In our NEW world" junk?  Seems like every class I respeced yesterday came closer to being inline with their EQ1 equivalent.  Examples...spears on shamans, SK's who get skeletons instead of lame ghost birds.  How do you feel about the necromancer becomming more of an evolved form of the eq1 necro and less of a 'NEW world' necro?  I'm personally all for it.  I'd like to see a some big tweaks, but I really like the direction they are trying to go.  I feel like they made a huge mistake at launch by totally remaking some classes when they changed their class defining skills or left them out entirely.  I know I felt like a necro for the first time since launch yesterday.</DIV><p>Message Edited by lbcreel on <span class=date_text>09-14-2005</span> <span class=time_text>08:16 AM</span>

wurtin
09-14-2005, 07:36 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> lbcreel wrote:<BR> <DIV>With the addition of pure strain life taps, ghetto heals, and the clinging darkness line...I can't help but ask myself...isn't this the necro from EQ1 with some new skills?  Don't get me wrong...I wanted this type of necro from the start.  In my mind we should have had lifetaps etc from the day the game went live.  The real question is what happened to all that "In our NEW world" junk?  Seems like every class I respeced yesterday came closer to being inline with their EQ1 equivalent.  Examples...spears on shamans, SK's who get skeletons instead of lame ghost birds.  How do you feel about the necromancer becomming more of an evolved form of the eq1 necro and less of a 'NEW world' necro?  I'm personally all for it.  I'd like to see a some big tweaks, but I really like the direction they are trying to go.  I feel like they made a huge mistake at launch by totally remaking some classes when they changed their class defining skills or left them out entirely.  I know I felt like a necro for the first time since launch yesterday.</DIV> <P>Message Edited by lbcreel on <SPAN class=date_text>09-14-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>08:16 AM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Nope, not even close.  The new necro is farther away from the EQ1 necro that we were before the revamp.  In EQ1, we did massive amounts of damage over time, would have 4 or 5 dots cooking the mob while aggro kiting.  We were very weak in short burst damage, but excelled in longer fights.  The dumbfire AA pets in EQ1 did very little damage relative amount of damage overall to the mob.  Dots lasted anywhere from 30 seconds (Horror) to 2 minutes (Plague line and Embracing Darkness I think).</P> <P>EQ2 Pre-Revamp - We could kite in a similar fashion to EQ1 but couldn't load up te dots as much because of combat runspeed and shorter durations to our snare spell.  Had some longer lasting dots, but nothing even close to EQ1.  I think our longest dot was like 40 seconds or so.  Our dumbfire pet ok damage but lasted 2:30 or until the mob died</P> <P>EQ2 Post Revamp - Kiting is not an option in the current form at all.  The darkness line will break within seconds of other damage being done t the mob.  This is intentional and not likely to change.  We deal good amounts of damage in a short burst.  Long term damage will probably be ok as well because of the scout pet.  Dumbfre pets only last 30 seconds apiece so our long term damage could suffer.  Converted a Dot line to Dumbfire pet and shortened duration of all dumbfires to 30 seconds while upping the DPS of these pets.  My description of the pace of our killing now is Frenetic.</P> <P> </P> <P>We may have spells or skills that sound the same or even do something similar, but how you play the characters are at polar opposites right now.</P><p>Message Edited by wurtin on <span class=date_text>09-14-2005</span> <span class=time_text>08:37 AM</span>

lbcre
09-14-2005, 07:59 PM
I think you should qualify that by saying you aggro kited...and not we.  I've personally been against kiting since it first became an issue EQ1.  It's just a stupid concept and I'm glad they tried to kill it in eq2.  Asides from that, I think you've made some good points...but I stick by what I said...I FEEL more like a necro now then I ever have in eq2.<p>Message Edited by lbcreel on <span class=date_text>09-14-2005</span> <span class=time_text>09:01 AM</span>