Level 52 spell -- Drawing of Souls!

[Named]

<DIV>[edit] <STRONG>ALL BUGS WERE FIXED, THIS SPELL WORKS 100%</STRONG></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I am posting this hear so necromancers not in beta can read alittle about this spell.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>--------------------------------------------------------------------</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Jaiken wrote:<BR> <P><FONT color=#ff0000>Drawing of Souls</FONT><BR>Completely broke; Missing component, description doesn’t say is uses a component.</P> <UL> <LI>Fix: Remove required component or provide description of component needed,</LI></UL> <DIV> </DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Let me expand on this spell. It seems like a VERY cool spell. Something unique. Something different. Kudos for designing it. <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>This spell requires an essence of anguish. It is now castable, as the mark line grants an essence. When a mob dies with the Drawing of Souls spell on it, the necromancer gains a new 1-charge ability.. Some of these abilties are actually very nice!</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Here is a sample of a few of the spells:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><IMG src="http://img360.imageshack.us/img360/8066/eq20000248gq.jpg"></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Very nice spell, however there are a few bugs..</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Bug #1 - You cannot get have more then 5 of these abilities at a time. I'm not sure if this is a bug or intended, so I'm listing it here.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Bug #2 - It seems like you do not get a new ability if when the mob dies it has both the spell Abominable Mark and Drawing of Souls on it. You just get an essence.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Bug #3 -  After you cast one of these 1 charge spells, they all grey out and you cannot cast them until you relog ( zoning may work ). If you kill a mob with Drawing of Souls on it, while these spells are greyed out , you are not granted another spell. Even if you're not at your 5 spell cap.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Bug #4 - If you look at the Flayer's Soul spell it says "Increases max power of target by <STRONG>12.0</STRONG>." I believe this is supposed to read "Increases max power of target by <STRONG>12%</STRONG>" to be inline with the Unstoppable Soul spell.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Neat little tips about this spell:</DIV> <UL> <LI>You can cast this spell without an essence of anguish. If you do this, the mob recieves the str/int debuff, but you don't receive a spell.</LI> <LI>This spell consumes an essence of anguish ( duh! )</LI> <LI>All the spells have "soul" in them ( took me a few minutes to realize this )</LI> <LI>There are atleast 6 different spells.</LI> <LI>Most of them you can cast across raid! Leet!!!</LI></UL></DIV><p>Message Edited by Named88 on <span class=date_text>09-20-2005</span> <span class=time_text>04:57 PM</span>

[Eesti]

Thanks for the info <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Does the spells appear in our bags as the essence of anguish do or how does it work ? <div></div>

[Tin_Tinne]

<DIV>Im confused, so you cast the spell Drawing of Souls on the mob like Horrific Mark where you get the Essence of Anguish? And when the mob dies you get one of those little items at random? Or do you choose which one you recieve? <BR></DIV>

[El Chupacabr]

Ok, these are pretty uber... the durations are a little short on some of them but they're pretty large buffs. That one spell could be enough to equalize our utility with the other classes, as long as they don't get an equivelent.  I do dread raids going nutty for these things, good thing you can only have one of each at a time (if I'm reading that right). <div></div>

[Named]

<DIV>I've done some more testing. You seem to randomly get a spell ( about 50% of the time ). You don't choose which one you get.. you just get it. It pops up like a new spell and appears in your book and on your hotbar ( if there is room ).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>There are only 6 spells.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>It seems like all of them with durations bug out all the soul spells you get. They are supposed to have a 10 second recast timer, but the timer doesn't seem to start if you cast one with a duration. The only one that works properly is the AoE one.</DIV>

[quamdar]

so, tell me if i am thinking of this correctly.  1.  you cast a spell (essence of anguish used) and it gives you one of those 5 abilities when the mob dies 2.  when you use the ability you got from the original spell it is taken out of spell book 3.  you then need to use the original spell (essence of anguish used) to get another one of the abilites at random when mob dies if i am correct in those assumptions this seems like another stupid spell.  all of them but the HP/mitigation and power/skill buffs are just things that we already have from regular spells like the AE (breath of unearthed line), the summoned pet (stench line), and the heal (exchange life line).  the buffs too aren't that great if they only have one charge and the only way to get a charge is by having the debuff on the mob when it dies.  that would mean one of each on a raid mob up to 5 total spells plus it only lasts 30 seconds.  i really don't see how this helped us at all in the utility or DPS category maybe i am wrong with how i think this spell is working it isn't that bad but i don't see a 30 second buff is really that great even though i have to agree it is a nice buff just too short a duration.  also can we see a shot of the actual spell that gives these abilities someone said it has a STR/INT debuff on it which could make this worthwhile but that seems like it would be the only really useful part of it. <div></div>

[Suraklin]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> quamdar wrote:<BR>so, tell me if i am thinking of this correctly.  <BR>1.  you cast a spell (essence of anguish used) and it gives you one of those 5 abilities when the mob dies<BR>2.  when you use the ability you got from the original spell it is taken out of spell book<BR>3.  you then need to use the original spell (essence of anguish used) to get another one of the abilites at random when mob dies<BR><BR>if i am correct in those assumptions this seems like another stupid spell.  all of them but the HP/mitigation and power/skill buffs are just things that we already have from regular spells like the AE (breath of unearthed line), the summoned pet (stench line), and the heal (exchange life line).  the buffs too aren't that great if they only have one charge and the only way to get a charge is by having the debuff on the mob when it dies.  that would mean one of each on a raid mob up to 5 total spells plus it only lasts 30 seconds.  i really don't see how this helped us at all in the utility or DPS category maybe i am wrong with how i think this spell is working it isn't that bad but i don't see a 30 second buff is really that great even though i have to agree it is a nice buff just too short a duration.  also can we see a shot of the actual spell that gives these abilities someone said it has a STR/INT debuff on it which could make this worthwhile but that seems like it would be the only really useful part of it.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>I swear it seems like no one at SOE has a "Vision" at all when it comes to Summoner classes. Especially what a Necromancer should be capable of. SOE needs to pick a community representative of each class. Handlebars or Rizaz would be good choices as Necro Community Reps in my opinion of what changes should be done to Necromancer.<BR>

[Dastion]

<DIV>It seems to me like a rather interesting idea, but also looks to be pretty cumbersome and unreliable.  I like that they finally added in another spell that makes use of essences, but the problem was that we didn't have a use for them until 48...this spell is at 50.</DIV>

[Tanes]

<DIV>These spells dont really do much for me.. some of them look just like warlock spells.. and in general to many classes have hp buff, heals, armor buffs and etc</DIV> <DIV>I want to see NECRO LIKE SPELLS for my NECRO.. things like:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Enslave Undead, - Charm undead</DIV> <DIV>Undead call of Aid, - AOE Charm undead charm, call 3 undead mobs in a radius around you to your add for 3 mins</DIV> <DIV>Consume Corpse, - Pull power from a corpse</DIV> <DIV>Voice Graft - Talk for your pet</DIV> <DIV>Shadow Sight - Bind vision to undead creatures</DIV> <DIV>Move in shadows invis spell to living, but undead can see you and you have a greater aggro range by undead creatures.</DIV> <DIV>Power over death, self only buff line that gives you a chance at rising from the grave in the event of death, clickable effect</DIV> <DIV>Cold Chill, dot with animation of fog, and hands coming out from the ground to rip and pull on the flesh of ones enemies.</DIV> <DIV>Dead man floating, group buff that turns people in ghosts alows lev and breath undeder water.</DIV> <DIV>Invoke evil sprit, cast a possion infest type of spell on a enemy, at times NPC he will turn on allies and attack. Animation of shadowy creature moving in and out of npc.</DIV> <DIV>Soul power, capure enuff essences of enemies and have a super nuke. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>just a couple of ideas...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Aen]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Tanes wrote:<BR> <DIV>These spells dont really do much for me.. some of them look just like warlock spells.. and in general to many classes have hp buff, heals, armor buffs and etc</DIV> <DIV>I want to see NECRO LIKE SPELLS for my NECRO.. things like:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Enslave Undead, - Charm undead</DIV> <DIV>Undead call of Aid, - AOE Charm undead charm, call 3 undead mobs in a radius around you to your add for 3 mins</DIV> <DIV>Consume Corpse, - Pull power from a corpse</DIV> <DIV>Voice Graft - Talk for your pet</DIV> <DIV>Shadow Sight - Bind vision to undead creatures</DIV> <DIV>Move in shadows invis spell to living, but undead can see you and you have a greater aggro range by undead creatures.</DIV> <DIV>Power over death, self only buff line that gives you a chance at rising from the grave in the event of death, clickable effect</DIV> <DIV>Cold Chill, dot with animation of fog, and hands coming out from the ground to rip and pull on the flesh of ones enemies.</DIV> <DIV>Dead man floating, group buff that turns people in ghosts alows lev and breath undeder water.</DIV> <DIV>Invoke evil sprit, cast a possion infest type of spell on a enemy, at times NPC he will turn on allies and attack. Animation of shadowy creature moving in and out of npc.</DIV> <DIV>Soul power, capure enuff essences of enemies and have a super nuke. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>just a couple of ideas...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P> </P> <P>Wow, just love those ideas you got there, now these would really rock if they ever implemented em.</P>

[Sonic X]

<div></div>I swear no matter what they do people never look for the positive in ANYTHING. <div></div><p>Message Edited by Sonic X on <span class=date_text>09-11-2005</span> <span class=time_text>01:29 PM</span>

[Nagazch]

<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Aenos wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Tanes wrote:<BR> <DIV>These spells dont really do much for me.. some of them look just like warlock spells.. and in general to many classes have hp buff, heals, armor buffs and etc</DIV> <DIV>I want to see NECRO LIKE SPELLS for my NECRO.. things like:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Enslave Undead, - Charm undead</DIV> <DIV>Undead call of Aid, - AOE Charm undead charm, call 3 undead mobs in a radius around you to your add for 3 mins</DIV> <DIV>Consume Corpse, - Pull power from a corpse</DIV> <DIV>Voice Graft - Talk for your pet</DIV> <DIV>Shadow Sight - Bind vision to undead creatures</DIV> <DIV>Move in shadows invis spell to living, but undead can see you and you have a greater aggro range by undead creatures.</DIV> <DIV>Power over death, self only buff line that gives you a chance at rising from the grave in the event of death, clickable effect</DIV> <DIV>Cold Chill, dot with animation of fog, and hands coming out from the ground to rip and pull on the flesh of ones enemies.</DIV> <DIV>Dead man floating, group buff that turns people in ghosts alows lev and breath undeder water.</DIV> <DIV>Invoke evil sprit, cast a possion infest type of spell on a enemy, at times NPC he will turn on allies and attack. Animation of shadowy creature moving in and out of npc.</DIV> <DIV>Soul power, capure enuff essences of enemies and have a super nuke. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>just a couple of ideas...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P> </P> <P>Wow, just love those ideas you got there, now these would really rock if they ever implemented em.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Lets continue this debate at <A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=spellart&message.id=59954" target=_blank>http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=spellart&message.id=59954</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>We've manipulated with the dev's before.. Lets try again >; )</DIV>

[quamdar]

what is positive about this spell? the only good part of it is the STR/INT debuff the other abilities that you get are pretty useless.  if you can tell me somehting worthwhile about these abilites i am not seeing i might change my mind but right now i am just seeing this as a stupid spell idea where you use a spell then get useless abilites that are one charge only and it takes a essence of anguish to get every charge.  unless you can use the debuff part without taking a essence of anguish this is probably, just like charm undead in most situations, going to just be a waste of a hotbar slot. <div></div>

[El Chupacabr]

Those two buffs are the most powerful in the game post revamp so far as I can tell... the durations need to be increased but for raw numbers those are amazingly powerful DPS/MT buffs. Another swarm pet at almost no cost, a 1 second cast no power cost true AoE and a no cost HoT... those are also very powerful abilities. These abilities are far from useless. <div></div>

[Deson]

Agreed, far from useless but from the description given cumbersome. Would be alot easier if they were perm spells but worked otherwise the same. I've no desire to keep fumbling with my spell bar/book on a regular basis aside from leveling.I like the look and sound of all the whole deal really, just not the hassle involved. <div></div>

[Dastion]

<DIV>Really like the summon a soul to possess an enemy...as a matter of fact, this ability sounds very similar (in effect) to our 'charm undead' spell (makes a creature fight on our side briefly but is not controllable).  It would be nice if they changed Control Undeath to:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Possession</DIV> <DIV>The Necromancer forces the tortured soul of a fallen foe into an enemy.  The soul subsumes the enemy and forces him to sometimes lash out at his allies as he struggles for control with the spirit infesting him.  Requires an Essence of Anguish.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Each version of the spell would upgrade the percentage chance of the enemy turning on his ally instead of players (essentially a confusion spell)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>As for Drawing of Souls, good idea but it sounds like it's either going to be too good, or too cumbersome to use..having to constantly keep slots open so you can pop up spells with it just for one charge...however, I like the above idea of a self resurrection spell, even if temporary..but with feign death and our own ability to resurrect that would be too good of a combo.  What would be better, is if this spell, when the target died with the effect on them, summoned a different type of dumbfire pet, maybe one with support abilities similar to what you can now get from the spell..or just has some other effect based on when the target dies..maybe even turn it into a group lifetap (i.e. one target but heals group).</DIV>

[Sonic X]

<div></div><span><blockquote><hr>El Chupacabras wrote:Those two buffs are the most powerful in the game post revamp so far as I can tell... the durations need to be increased but for raw numbers those are amazingly powerful DPS/MT buffs. Another swarm pet at almost no cost, a 1 second cast no power cost true AoE and a no cost HoT... those are also very powerful abilities. These abilities are far from useless. <div></div><hr></blockquote>NOOOOO! USEFUL OMG! Holy crap that sucks compared to this spell called kill the entire zone because im a necro and everything is broke! <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></span><div></div>

[soulrais]

<P>any updates on these bugs?</P> <P> </P>

[Named]

<DIV>all the bugs were fixed pre launch, i just didnt update the op</DIV>

[Lodor]

<P>The spell is broken on live.</P> <P>It will use up essences of anguish and never reward any of the spells.  Been using all day and have yet to get any the spells and have lost alot of essences.</P>

[Named]

<DIV>It gives you the spells. It can just be rare at times. It seems about 5 or 10% of the time you will get a spell.</DIV>

[schrammy]

<P>Guys you just MUST read the things some guy wrote in Tanes' post.</P> <P>I laughed for an hour and i am still laughing <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P> </P> <P><A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=spellart&message.id=59954" target=_blank><FONT color=#c8c1b5>http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=spellart&message.id=59954</FONT></A></P>

[evhallion]

<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> schrammy wrote:<BR> <P>Guys you just MUST read the things some guy wrote in Tanes' post.</P> <P>I laughed for an hour and i am still laughing <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P> </P> <P><A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=spellart&message.id=59954" target=_blank><FONT color=#c8c1b5>http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=spellart&message.id=59954</FONT></A></P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR></DIV> <DIV>Yes that will put a smile on your face. lol</DIV>

[schrammy]

<P>I love his idea for that new spell tho.</P> <P> </P> <P>Necro's should get an equivalent. I would not mind haveing a NukingStunningSnareingFearingDotting spell.</P>

[L'elfe joye]

<P>Sorry to ask such a stupid question but Im a currently a lvl 53 necro, and im "kindly" with a Majdul faction but i dont know where to get "Drawing of Souls". The npc selling the other spells doesnt sell this one :/</P> <P>Thanks <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P>

[Eirgo]

Can only get ad1 or M1 from drops or have a sage craft an ad3 from one of those legendary scroll drops you see all the time.

[Deson]

Anyone feel it would be overpowering to have the buffs in this spell made into group buffs? <div></div>

[Thakar]

I'd like to see the buffs increased to 45 seconds to a minute, at least...for the moment, the only buff I use is Unstoppable Soul on a raid tank for the pull, even then it's not all that great....duration just isn't long enough to care most of the time. <div></div>

[Named]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Deson wrote:<BR>Anyone feel it would be overpowering to have the buffs in this spell made into group buffs?<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>I actually think this would bring the Drawing of Souls spells up to the level of other classes new spells. Would be really cool to see this happen.</DIV>

[Tzen]

<P>I'm guessing that the reason why sometimes people think they are not getting a new Soul spell is because the one that it gives you as a result in having the debuff on the mob when it dies is already in your book.  Personally I don't have a problem with this other than the fact that I seem to burn through my essences pretty quick trying to fill my 5 spell slots.</P> <P>This is a great spell, and all I have to say to those who think otherwise.... don't get it.  Give me the rare you would have used otherwise and I'll put it to good use :smileyhappy:</P>

[MrGrimm9]

They really need to make the snake pet scale with your level, make the heal either last longer or heal for more, and increase the duration on the buffs then this spell would be worth the constant concentration to get all of those spells.  I don't know about anyone else but I like these spells a lot, it just takes too long to get them.  Maybe make it so we get these spells more often when the mob dies.  It just takes too long to get them right now, frustrating at times.

[KBern]

<P>I am not sure if other necros have noticed this but this spell causes zones to crash.</P> <P>I have bugged this twice now and am sure this is happening at least to my necro on Guk.</P> <P>When I cast the Servile Servant, and the Dot (only the two single target attack spells.) AND they are resisted....the zone I am in crashes.</P> <P>This has been tested and observed three times in a row after I realized what I thought was going on.</P> <P>I have sinced left the spells in my knowledge book but have pulled them off my hot key bar so they do not appear anymore.</P> <P>I hope this is fixed because this really sucks not being able to use this spell fully.  </P> <P>This does not happen with Drawing of Souls itself, does not happen with the AOE, and obviously would not happen with the heal, or two buffs.</P> <P>Has anyone else notice they have had zones crashing a lot and not figured out why?  </P> <P>This is more than likely your reason behind it.</P>

[Eirgo]

I was dueling a guildie Inq in SC yesterday while we were waiting on another group member, and sure enough a little while after I cast my skeleton cobra the whole zone crashed.  I cant say for sure thats what crashed us, but now that you mention it, that was the only time all night I used it and right before the crash at that. <p>Message Edited by Eirgorn on <span class=date_text>10-03-2005</span> <span class=time_text>07:35 AM</span>

[ume]

<DIV>Pillar of Flames crashed 4 times on me yesterday.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Now that you mention it, I afk'd for about 3 hours and came back and the zone never crashed.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Started killing again and crashed 3 times in a couple hours.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Very shady.</DIV>

[KBern]

<P>Please start paying attention when you use this spell and bug it if you have the same issues. </P> <P>It can really screw up your day if trying to do an instance and you lock out your group. </P> <P>I am sure some necros are using this knowlingly to crash zones to make named mobs spawn.</P> <P>It is pretty obvious once you know what to pay attention to with this.</P> <P>I love this spell and the dot and servant are great additional spells and it is really sad that we cannot use them because of this.</P> <P>Or sad that I at least knowingly cant at this point.</P>

[Tzen]

<P>OMG I think you are right!  I was in a group the other night in Living Tombs and we were taking down the last Priestess... I was popping off my soul spells and soon after the zone took a crap.  We came back and she had despawned (zone reset).  Of course at this point it was 3:30am and we weren't in the mood to try and spawn her again.</P> <P>I'll be keeping my eye on this spell, and will /bug it if I notice this.</P>

[Tinantier]

do yo know you could be right - first time i cast teh snake pet (to see what it was), the zone crashed - never thought anything more of it, but it seems to be rather coincidental that this happens - had SC crash the other night too, cant remember if i was casting this then as well. <div></div>

[Tzen]

Does anyone know if this happens in instanced zones as well?  Wouldn't think there would be a difference, but just curious.

[KBern]

<P>Yes personally I think I have crashed Silent City...Sinking Sands...the Hidden Cache, and the Sanctorium?</P> <P>These are the zones that I noticed this in, so it can happen in instances also.</P>

[Tzen]

Good to know, thx.

[KBern]

<DIV>I PM'd Moorgard and he responded that they are aware, and working on a fix.....so I am not crazy. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>:smileysurprised:</DIV>

[Tzen]

Safe to assume this hasn't been fixed since LU14?  Been hesitant to use those spells affected.

[KBern]

<P>To the best of my knowledge no, and it is frustrating.  I am very hesitant to test it also since crashing a zone is not a good thing to do.  :smileysad:</P> <P>We can still use the inital debuff and 4 of the 6, but the two nice damage spells are a no go until otherwise noted.</P> <P>I just hope they announce the fix when it and if it goes in.</P>

[Tzen]

I vote that if they dont get it fixed soon we start crashing zones left and right to bring down the attention that this matter deserves <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>MUAHAHAHAHAAHAHAAAAA  :smileyvery-happy:</DIV>