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equinoxio

08-28-2005, 01:26 AM

<DIV>Mage 10 Arcane Bindings 10 Lightning Shock 10 Gift of the Magi 10 Storm of Lightning Summoner 20 Soothe Servant 20 Protective Brace 20 Seism 20 Bludgeoning Earth Necromancer 30 Boon of the Lifeless 30 Mend Bones ?? 30 Grisly Brace 30 Pestilential Blast 40 Draw Life 40 Locust Swarm 40 Plague of Rats 40 Words of the Wicked ?? 50 Skinrot 50 Exchange Life 50 Aspect of Undead 50 Stench of the Grave ?? 60 Voice of the Departed 60 Rending Fury 60 Necrotic Replenishment 60 Grisly Ward ?? at lvl 10 Gift of the magi cause we dont get any other imprved version of this spell, at lvl 20 seims since its awsome now, aoe, decent dmg for suck a low spell, knockback and stun <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> anyone know if it works with Epic encounters?? 30.. well not really know what to choose since all those spells we replace later on, and since im already 50 i dont see much use in them, at 40 id say words, since it will still last me 3 more lvls cause we get the upgrade at lvl 53, at lvl 50 well some say the heal since it does 1k heal for 500 hp, but we never get any upgrade for stench either, depends on what do you like more, heal pet or do dps? at 60 its kind of the same choice, grisly ward is the defensive stance, so pet can take more dmg and since i already have stench i think it balance out.... Any comment? Sidarta 50 necromancer of Crushbone (elysium)</DIV>

vorek

08-28-2005, 03:18 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> equinoxio wrote: <DIV>Mage 10 Arcane Bindings 10 Lightning Shock 10 Gift of the Magi 10 Storm of Lightning *For a leveling mage...I would suggest Lightning Shock. The only new DD we get is Dust Blast until Pestilent at 29. For a Necro already past 29, Gift if the Magi would work. Summoner 20 Soothe Servant 20 Protective Brace 20 Seism 20 Bludgeoning Earth *This is a jugdement call. I use Bludgeoning Earth a lot more than Seism. Necromancer 30 Boon of the Lifeless 30 Mend Bones ?? 30 Grisly Brace 30 Pestilential Blast *I have not seen the writeups on the specifics, but Boon of the Lifeless is choice for the leveling Necro. Master II of that would make your Adept III pet (you got that right?) unstoppable. 40 Draw Life 40 Locust Swarm 40 Plague of Rats 40 Words of the Wicked ?? *Again....would need to see more specifics. 50 Skinrot 50 Exchange Life 50 Aspect of Undead 50 Stench of the Grave ?? *Exchange Life....hands down. There is no upgrade for it. It would be your end all beat all for the spell. 60 Voice of the Departed 60 Rending Fury 60 Necrotic Replenishment 60 Grisly Ward ?? *This one needs to be based off of what you are going to be doing at 60. Raiding? Pet DPS. Soloing? Pet defense. </DIV> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>

ChrisRay

08-28-2005, 04:21 PM

If I were you guys. I wouldnt underestimate the effects of the defensive buff line for pets. Master 2 could very well be worth it.

Grey_Gho

08-29-2005, 02:55 AM

<blockquote><hr>vorek wrote:<blockquote><div>*For a leveling mage...I would suggest Lightning Shock. The only new DD we get is Dust Blast until Pestilent at 29. For a Necro already past 29, Gift if the Magi would work. </div></blockquote><hr></blockquote>Isn't the new pregression after Lightning Shock 11 Dust Blast > 15 Rock Blast > 20 Lifetap or Rotten Blast (RB is more of a super fast DOT however) I'd say Storm of Lightning, but only because I am not sure which spell replaces it. Seism at 16 is a PBAOE (not sure on PB, but it's not encounter only), and the next encounter AOE we seem to get is Blight at 22 which is more like the original Seism (AOE DOT). Till someone in beta posts an upgrade path (what all shares the same timers), I won't be able to make an informed descision when this all goes Live. <div></div>

Dastion

08-29-2005, 02:59 AM

<DIV>Gift of the Magi is upgraded, so I'm not certain what you're talking about. Read the spell descriptions. It's upgraded, but upgraded into a necro like spell. And why you'd get anything before exchange life is beyond me. The arguement that the defensive spells are underestimated and should be considered is very valid, however.</DIV>

equinoxio

08-29-2005, 07:44 AM

<DIV>After playing a bit more in beta with the spells i must say, i was confusing gift of magi with Magi shielding, so its pretty much a worthless spell, i chose lighting after that and its a 2sec spell for a bit more than 100, not so bad, seims does a bit more than 400 at max dmg with the stun, havent been able to try it on epic mobs, anyoe got any word on it? mend bones, does a bit more than necrotic mending on app1 lvl 50, words of the wiked seems cool, altho i prefer using my pet on defensive rather than offensive, i tried stench of the grave master 2, its awsome! good dps, good hp, can hold agro pretty well, its worth using, with these choices and all other aprentice 1 spells, i was able to solo a specter on the island with such ease, switching between, root, gasthy, pet, fear, didnt even have to heal pet at all</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Sidarta </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>50 necro of Crushbone (Elysium)</DIV>

Thraken

08-29-2005, 07:55 PM

Mage 10 Arcane Bindings 10 Lightning Shock 10 Gift of the Magi 10 Storm of Lightning * I'd say Storm of Lightening since the upgrade (Seism) is an out of encounter AoE Summoner 20 Soothe Servant 20 Protective Brace 20 Seism * 20 Bludgeoning Earth I'd say Seism here since this will be a necro's only out of encounter AoE Necromancer 30 Boon of the Lifeless 30 Mend Bones 30 Grisly Brace 30 Pestilential Blast * hummm... Offensive buff, pet heal, Defensive Buff, or Nuke. Hard to say here, since we have upgrades to all these spells, but since you get Pestilential Blast at 29, upgrading it would mean that you get to use it as a Master2 the longest. 40 Draw Life * 40 Locust Swarm 40 Plague of Rats 40 Words of the Wicked Draw Life. This new spell line only seems to get upgraded every 15 levels (instead of 14). Second choice here would be Plague of Rats, as it is a must upgrade spell. 50 Skinrot 50 Exchange Life * 50 Aspect of Undead 50 Stench of the Grave * Toss up between Exhange Life and Stench of the Grave. Neither one of these spells gets an upgrade before 60. Stench should be a very nice encounter AoE'ing pet, but if you've already upgraded it, then Exhcnage Life might be the way to go. Tuff call on this one, and honestly idk which way i will go. 60 Voice of the Departed 60 Rending Fury * 60 Necrotic Replenishment 60 Grisly Ward <DIV>Well, this one isn't an easy call either, but I think Rending Fury wins out. Voice of the departed is used in groups and raids, and Necrotic Replenishment along with Grisly Ward is better for soloing. Rending Fury is the pet buff you will have up in both these situations.</DIV>

quamdar

08-30-2005, 12:30 AM

if you are 50 i would say for level 40 i would probably choose either rats or words of the wicked, personally i am leaning toward rats because they are a very nice DPS and i hear they get betterl but not really sure since they get replaced at 51 and words of wicked stays till 53 though i am sure iwould use a master 2 rats well past 51. for level 50 i would have to say no contest exchange life, the heal on there is insane whether you wanna spot heal people in your group or your pet when you are soloing and if you are raiding alot then the small pets from spells like stench of the grave die very fast to AE spells. for level 60 it is a tough choice i have only seent he voice fo the departed master 2 and think that it would probably fit better into my play style. really wish they gave a higher level spells too choose from for level 60 like maybe the upgrade to either skinrot, death's coil, convulse, and accursed cloud just some kind of personal DPS spell instead of all pet buffs/heal. would also really love to see a lich master 2 but that is too much i think, just thinking about how much damage that would add though is just insane the master 1 someone said hits for ~450 so that would add probably closer to 500 damage every cast <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <div></div>