Call of the Hero

[leannel]

<div>One thing I would love to see on a future live update is the cost removed for casting Call of the Hero.  It's really a beneficial spell, but the cost of those pearls can add up.  For example, a pally doesn't have to pay to resurrect somebody, so I think we shouldn't have to pay to help people either.</div>

[Lader]

<div></div>Just ask the recipient to reimburse you for the pearl, either by giving you the money or another pearl. That seems fairest, and in my experience many people dont realize it costs anything to cast and once told they dont mind paying

[GSOO]

<div></div><div></div><div>The only change to CotH I would like to see, and it is a simple one.....have the timer switched on reuse. The higher the spell the less reuse. In my opinion and no one listens to me anyways, that should be the only thing they would change.</div><p>Message Edited by GSOOne on <span class="date_text">01-19-2006</span><span class="time_text">08:32 AM</span></p>

[AbsentmindedMage]

I agree completely with you.  It makes no sense to me why others who have utility spells which allow them to move around rapidly do not have a reagent expense also.   For example, there is no cost for a scout to use their evac ability.  There is no cost for sorcerors to use their teleport to safety ability either.  As you pointed out there is no cost for other most of the other utility spells also.  I have no problem with paying for a reagent.  I just wish that it would be a reasonable price.  A gold and some silver isnt really all that reasonable.  Some silvers sure.<div></div>

[Magu]

I think it's well worth it. I make tons of money calling down to Nagafen. Buy a master spell, recoup the costs in 3-4 days.<div></div>

[Loranthala]

<div>lol, only use mine in raids and when I'm to lazy to run my defiler across zone.  Guild pays for raid usage though.</div>

[Xalmat]

If cost is an issue, just have the Heroee you summoned pay you back. Besides, once you're in your 50s, 1.2g per cast is pocket change; I pay more than that on fuel for tradeskilling.It's <i>highly</i> unlikely they will ever change the cast or recast times or the cost of a pearl. They want Call of the Hero to be a useful tool for gathering latecomers to a group or raid, but not to the point where it trivializes content (like EQLive Call of the Hero).

[Janl]

To echo what Xalmat said (AND YES, BY GOD, I"M BACK!!!)  the difference between Scout/Wizard evac or even the Cleric (Templar?) Odyssee spell is that you are sending people away from you.  You still have to deal with the matter of getting back to where you were.  That's nowhere near as convenient as simply summoning somewhere to you.<div></div>

[StaticLex]

<div>I don't care so much about the regeant cost but the re-use timer is stupid.  8 minutes?  Gimme a break.  2 or 3 minutes would be sufficient.</div>

[wullailhuit]

/flogs dead horseIt's highly unlikely to change and 1.2g really is pocket change , 1-2 kills often gives enough cash to recover 1 pearl , my guild provides the odd stack of pearls and people generally give me 1-2g per summon.Time wise...doubt that will ever be decreased , it's a utility spell for latecomers or to swap the odd group member , they don't want it used to summon people past content./stop flog <div></div>

[Magu]

<span><blockquote><hr>StaticLex wrote:<div>I don't care so much about the regeant cost but the re-use timer is stupid.  8 minutes?  Gimme a break.  2 or 3 minutes would be sufficient.</div><hr></blockquote>But then it would allow quick bypass of content. The 8mins makes you wait, and makes it very inefficient as a means to move a large number of people.</span><div></div>

[Xalmat]

<blockquote><hr>wullailhuit wrote:/flogs dead horse<hr></blockquote>Sounds like a good idea to me.

[StaticLex]

<div>I guess it is the way the cookie crumbles.  99% of the time I am summoning someone across a huge zone of grey mobs.  It is content they would be able to skip anyway.</div>

[Loranthala]

<div>If its grey, make them run...  That's what I do, I see no problem with Call of the Hero as it stands now.</div>

[Mordith]

I have over 50p in the bank and hate the fact that I have to buy pearls to use CoH.<div></div>

[Gorhauth]

I have less than 1p and buying pearls doesn't bother me at all.  The convenience is worth way more than the cost.<div></div>

[SilkenMaid]

<div></div><p><font color="#ff99ff">So far cheapest pearls I have found to date are at vendor on steps at giants in EF. I THINK the ratonga was selling for 1gold 20 silver.. If you wish to save a little money on mass buys.</font></p><p><strong><em><font color="#ff99ff">* Silkwind - Runneye *</font></em></strong></p><p><strong><em><font color="#ffff00" face="Garamond">Suffering from...</font></em></strong></p><p><font color="#ffff00"><strong><font face="Garamond"><em>[Signature-Clueless]</em></font></strong></font></p>

[Taishi]

<div></div>Well I can't understand why anyone would like to change the way it works right now. In EQ1 they made it to where the only thing a magician was good for was CotH for raid purposes and that was all we could do. They made the EQ2 version with the proper perspective albeit irritating to have to buy reagents for it. The long reuse timer was intended to prevent the trivialization of content by bypassing it all every time. Also when you're raiding it is still useful when you have players swapping and late people. I think the right thing was done with this spell and should not be changed aside from possibly lowering the cost of pearls.

[Trillien]

<blockquote><hr>Taishici wrote:<div></div>Well I can't understand why anyone would like to change the way it works right now. In EQ1 they made it to where the only thing a magician was good for was CotH for raid purposes and that was all we could do. They made the EQ2 version with the proper perspective albeit irritating to have to buy reagents for it. The long reuse timer was intended to prevent the trivialization of content by bypassing it all every time. Also when you're raiding it is still useful when you have players swapping and late people. I think the right thing was done with this spell and should not be changed aside from possibly lowering the cost of pearls.<hr></blockquote>Ummmmmm, not really clear about this...my 70 mage was an active player, so active that I always carried 100 pearls (at 5 gold each) with me. And that was just for groups, saving players from dying, getting them unstuck (haha), and summoning group members back to me after they had taken off with a bunch of mobs. My favorite story is the one about someone I had to summon in a hurry, since I could see he was dying. He had never been CoHed before, and when the message "You have been summoned.' came in, he thought a GM was summoning him. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I was a Chardok mage, as well. I never raided because it is so boring, but my services were always in demand.

[Tro]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> leannel wrote:<BR> <DIV>One thing I would love to see on a future live update is the cost removed for casting Call of the Hero.  It's really a beneficial spell, but the cost of those pearls can add up.  For example, a pally doesn't have to pay to resurrect somebody, <FONT color=#ff0066>so I think we shouldn't have to pay to help people either.</FONT></DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>CoH really doesn't help the individual that you are summoning. It is more like helping the group.  The group doesn't have to go all the way back to the zone in to get the individual and then fight back to where they left off -or-</P> <P>The group doesn't have to go rezz/escort the individual that tried to invis/fight their way to their perspective group. Usually with a rezz, the corpse is relatively close so the actual rezz is little to no inconvenience on the group. </P> <P>If the pearl is that much of an expense then do like was already recommended. Ask for re-payment. <BR></P><p>Message Edited by Trook on <span class=date_text>08-01-2006</span> <span class=time_text>03:55 AM</span>

[Twodrago]

<P><FONT color=#ffcc00>How can 1g 25'ish s add up with a 8 minute reuse timer?  That means you are able to cast it 7 times in an hour, costing you 7-8g.  At the level you get CoH, you should have no problem adventuring and getting 7-8g in loot drops within an hour.</FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#ffcc00>I always walk around with a stack of 20 pearls ready for use.  As far as charging, I don't ask for reimbursment unless they offer.  Hey, who am I to turn down free cash?</FONT>  :smileyhappy:</P> <P><FONT color=#ffcc00>Ok, well actually I did turn down one payment in Sol Eye.  I was in the zone anyway and did my good deed for the day.  The next time I did it in Sol Eye, thay asked, "How much?" and I responded with, "Whatever you think is fair."  They gave me 20g for an hours worth of running around and summining twice.</FONT></P>