WAY Too Many People Play Conjurors Now

[StaticLex]

<div>Ya know, this class was cool before the DPS attention, now everyone and their dog is playing a conjuror.  I almost wish they'd nerf the class to kill off all the [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] band-wagon jumpers.  :smileyindifferent:</div>

[Adal]

<div></div>I know<img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I have played a conjuror since the beginning and there were very few<img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> No one was a conjuror, and I was always the only one in a guild<img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Now since the expansion hit, everyone has made a conjuror alt<img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> It sucks<img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Copy cats!

[Teksun]

That's kind of funny. I just made a conjurer alt. My main hit 60 and I wanted something I could solo. The funny thing is, my main is a Ranger. I guess if you don't have a conjurer alt you have a Ranger alt, because THEY are EVERYWHERE...<div></div>

[Conequis]

haha welcome to flavor of the month.Wizzies had to go through it right after they upped our DPS, now it is the conjuror's turn lol.  It will fade in time I'm sure.<div></div>

[TheSnoo]

<div></div>I have to agree with the OP. While my conjurer alt is only 17, my dog's conjurer has me beat by about 5 levels now.

[Aera]

<span><blockquote><hr>TheSnooch wrote:<div></div>I have to agree with the OP. While my conjurer alt is only 17, my dog's conjurer has me beat by about 5 levels now.<hr></blockquote>LOLYes, I certainly agree though.  I switched my main from a monk to a conj. back in June or July and even then there weren't nearly as many as I see now.  I think you're right about the flavor of the month thing.  I remember the wizzie craze.  I think mine is still collecting dust as well.</span><div></div>

[Raberis]

<div></div><p>I knew conjurer's would eventually rule the world;  I just knew it!</p><p> </p><p> </p>

[Loranthala]

<div>lol, when I hit lvl 50 back in the day which was 2nd conjuror on teh server, there was easily 2x more necros lvl 40-50 than there were conjurors, now its like 3 conjurors per necro it seems.   Evil classes on Lavastorm server are pretty low in numbers in general.</div>

[Dragonslayer810]

<div></div>Once wizards get fixed(if they ever do) there is ur new band wagon.

[silvercloud]

<div>On the plus side, it's very amusing having 4+ conjurors in a single experience group.  More the merrier I think <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div>

[Loranthala]

<div></div>Haven't had that problem yet, would like to see an all summoner raid sometime, I think that would be fun.

[SilkenMaid]

<div><font color="#ffff00">Conjurers are taking over Norrath!! </font></div><div><font color="#00ccff">We are SUPREME!!</font></div><div><font color="#ff3366">Exterminate! Exterminate! Exterminate!!</font></div><div><font color="#66ff00">Long live the Conjurers!!</font></div><div> </div><div><font color="#ff66ff">(Well, it was my 100th post..and I couldn't think of anything else to say..admittedly a blonde moment happened) :womansurprised:</font></div><div> </div><div><font color="#ff99ff"><strong><em>* Silkwind - Runnyeye *</em></strong></font></div><div> </div><div><font color="#ff99ff">(Conjurers don't need to be smart, because we are simply perfect! :womanwink: )</font></div><p>Message Edited by SilkenMaid on <span class="date_text">01-20-2006</span><span class="time_text">08:18 PM</span></p>

[Shakir10]

<div>Yeah, I made a conj too since I have no hopes of Guardians ever getting better.</div>

[Spag]

<div></div><p>I don't necessarily think its all due to flavor of the month.  I rolled my conj because I wanted a class that I could solo with, when I felt the urge.  Common sense says summoner class is the best solo class.  I have had friend make alts across the last few months and the low level zones are dead, hard to find groups and all, so again this leads more people to solo, and choose a strong solo class.</p><p> </p><p>Of course the flavor of the month doesn't hurt either.</p>

[Klu]

<span><blockquote><hr>Spagma wrote:<div></div><p>I don't necessarily think its all due to flavor of the month.  I rolled my conj because I wanted a class that I could solo with, when I felt the urge.  Common sense says summoner class is the best solo class.  I have had friend make alts across the last few months and the low level zones are dead, hard to find groups and all, so again this leads more people to solo, and choose a strong solo class.</p><p> </p><p>Of course the flavor of the month doesn't hurt either.</p><hr></blockquote>Thats why I made one. I like being a tank myself but I gave up on mine to make a conj, and a necro, because I was looking for a class that wasnt group dependent and needed on raids.</span><div></div>

[Manit]

Honestly, I am choosing to create a conjuror cause of the crazy awesome Evangelion anime look'n Air Elemental fun spell at level 35 or something.I am glad to read that conjurors also rock'n roll. A bit of an unforeseen benefit for me. <span>:manhappy:</span><span></span><div></div>

[Wardyn]

<div>I agree with several of the previous posters. I chose a Conjurer after the combat patch because there were times I just needed to solo. I have played most classes, and felt (and still feel) that from levels 1-60, Conjurers are the best soloers. Yes, at certain levels they aren't the best, but on average, they are very consistent with their ability to take down an oponent without aid. For raiding, I generally use my Defiler, Shadowknight or Coercer. I also have a 50+ Necro. I'll admit Necros are a tad higher on the cool factor, a little rarer, and a bit  better for groups and raids. However, if ya need to cut through a named, or solo. You really can't do better than a buff Conjurer.</div><div> </div><div>That said, all pure casters solo well.</div>

[Spag]

<div></div><p>Now granted my Conj is still a lil one, but I found it really cool at lvl 24 my pet could tank for an xp group against a lvl 27 ^^^ skelly in TS, with a lvl 18 druid as main healer.</p><p> </p>

[Raybour]

<div></div><p>Me too... I sure wish our class was terrible so that nobody else would play it.</p><p>NOT.</p><p>Live with it.  It's a great class.  I've played too many toons in other games in classes that were lousy.  Glad I picked the right one this time, personally.</p><p>J Wellington Wells</p>

[Mystiq]

<div></div><div>I rolled a Conjuror because it looked fun as hell to play. I have quite a few alts....I like to experience the game with different hats on, but to be honest a pet class was never my thing (all the pets talking from EQ1...the whole "yes, master" thing irked me). I always figured a pet could never hold aggro if a PC was even remotely nearby. But after grouping with one at length I began to get it. I also wanted something I could solo with at any point, which as we all know is easier than ever nowadays. Add the fact that a conj is a highly prized addition to a raiding guild, and it's really a no brainer.</div><div> </div><div>It's really not a bad thing that so many conjurors are out there now. They stack pretty well in a group, unlike other classes whose skills/spells might cancel each other out or cannot be cast untill whatever effect on the mob from the first caster wears off. People should be educated that 2 or more conj in a group is nothing but a good thing. Our pets can tank in a pickle, and we have different types of damage for any situation that comes up. An inordinate amount of aggro at times, without a reliable way to counter it, is about the only negative side to playing, or playing with, a conj.</div>

[Jeradim]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>silvercloud wrote:<div>On the plus side, it's very amusing having 4+ conjurors in a single experience group.  More the merrier I think <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div><hr></blockquote><p>I used to be the only other conjurer in my guild next to the high lvl one we have.  Since LU13 though there are lots more, so much so that I had the opportunity to be in a guild group with 3 conjy's and a templar.  I had a taste of the potential power with that group ripping through RE.  I honestly think 5 conjurer's and a healer would be practically unstoppable and that no other group make-up could mow through mobs faster.</p><p>I think it's great the class is so good now and very enjoyable to play.  I can see why a lot of people are choosing to try the class, especially since we solo so well and I think it shows just how many people value that aspect of the game.  I agree though that there does seem to be a tad too many conjurors out there for my purist sensibilities.  I kind of prefer to be a fringe class which only attracts a few select types of player (i.e. a loner type who prefers to solo for eg.)  I'm hoping it is just a phase and that we see the numbers die down a bit.  That said, I am happy for those who tried out the class and found it suited them very well and so decide to stick with it for the long haul.</p>

[Meeb]

<div></div><div>I have no idea why rolled a conjuror but its been great fun very good class</div><div>when I strated out there wernt that many conjurors about and I agree with other posters there are now loads of um,  how ever as others have said i think its a case of flavor of the month syndrome it would be nice to see how many of these nooby conjurors make it all the way to the end and how many  drop out Im willing to bet its a lot its very easy to get ranger/wizzard envy at lower lvls and very tempting to reroll.</div>

[Violat0r]

/oldmodeI remember the day when i was a lvl 7 or 8 mage , just outside qeynos gate in this scary place called Antonica killing baby gnolls and snakes./oldmode offI was in a group with all mages except this one guy who had a little beetle that was nibbling at the mobs ankles while he casted lighning bolts from afar. He was called a "summoner"I looked at him and though "surely thats a good plan to stop the nasties getting you while you blast them, when I grow up , I want to be like him".I was SO frickin right.......<div></div>

[Shardrael]

<div></div><div></div><p>I made my conjuror as my main back in the very early days of the game, back then our pets all did the same thing so there was no point using anything but earth pets, no one wanted us in groups cause everyone did everything better then us, but i still picked the class cause I saw someone with the fire illusion and thought I must have that!! low and behold I come back after a break and every other character is a conjuror.... kind of sucks getting called flavor of the month by everyone just cause they see so many of us now but hey atleast our pets work right and that regardless of all else is one hell of an improvement over the early days <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p> </p><p>edit: to <a href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/view_profile?user.id=160486" target="_blank"><span>Jeradim</span></a> I agree with ya on that one, I think maybe a defiler (if there group wards help our pets) 5 conjurors with 4 flame pets and 1 tank pet would be possibly The Greatest Group Evar!!!! just thinking about it makes me feel all tingly <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Message Edited by Shardrael on <span class="date_text">01-24-2006</span><span class="time_text">05:12 AM</span></p><p>Message Edited by Shardrael on <span class="date_text">01-24-2006</span><span class="time_text">05:12 AM</span></p>

[Loral]

<div>i made a Conjuror because.. well... 5 years of Everquest1 Magecraft kinda get into you, and old loves are hard to leave behind...</div>

[Maldach]

<div>Um, when were conjuror's not popular? They've been common since release.</div>

[StaticLex]

<div><hr><div>Um, when were conjuror's not popular? They've been common since release.<hr></div><div> </div><div>Not on my server.</div></div>

[Loral]

<div></div>Pre LU#13, Warlocks, Wizards, Guardians and Templars were the top played classes. Notice it was the most overpowered ones at that time. Flavor of the moment. Now it is mostly Conjurors, Furies and Bruisers that fill all the lower level ranks. New flavor of the moment.

[Paradigm]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Loralor wrote:<div></div>Pre LU#13, Warlocks, Wizards, Guardians and Templars were the top played classes. Notice it was the most overpowered ones at that time. Flavor of the moment. Now it is mostly Conjurors, Furies and Bruisers that fill all the lower level ranks. New flavor of the moment.<hr></blockquote><p>Wizards, in their apparent broken form, are still the top played class. On my server anyway.</p><p>I tested this out for about a week. I gathered data on the number of each classes that were playing at certain times, about 2-3 times a day for a little over a week and averaged all the numbers.</p><p>Wizards were clearly on the top.</p>

[Thmy]

<div>at one time we did not stack in a groups so ONE was all that was needed.</div><div> </div><div>It is SO nice to be needed on raids.</div><div> </div><div>OH- Crud that cube through me off the wall AGAIN would you please CotH me back to the raid.  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div><div> </div><div>We are near the top on raid DPS but one other reason a GOOD level 60 conj is at the top</div><div>is because we adjust our spells  debuff and pets to the type of mob we are fighting.</div><div> </div><div>We also will know how well the main tank can hold aggro and know went to really unload.</div><div> </div><div>When we lose  the main tank and ST  it is no longer the enc or the wiz that dies next.</div><div> </div><div>---------------</div><div>With 3 pets to play with it is really fun to learn the limits of each one.</div><div>and push them to the limits.</div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div>

[Violat0r]

<div></div>/agreeConjurers and necros are a distinct minority in the caster community, almost as rare as illusionists and coercers.Rest assured though my summoning brethren, very few of the lowbie conjs will make it to T7 to mess with our dizzying uberness.<span>:smileywink:</span><div></div><p>Message Edited by Violat0r on <span class="date_text">01-26-2006</span><span class="time_text">05:08 AM</span></p>

[Tar~Palantir]

<div></div><p>I played a wizard from february('05) to october.  November and december I technically played him, but I didn't do any leveling with him.. No recently, KI rolled a summoner going to conjuror on AB.  Yes there are alot of summoner types.  When i created my wizard, i was on the fence on whether to go wizard or conjuror.  My conjuror friend advised me to go wizard and so I did. </p><p> </p><p>WHen wizards got their DPS upped, I felt while the DPS is pleasingly high, the strategy is just to burn down the mob.  Conjurors have atleast some strategic manoevering ability.  IE, putting their pet on a mob that is beating on the thealer etc. Then there is choosing what buffs to put up ETC.  Conjurors have a nice mix of utility and DPS, so they are also more desireable in a group when LFG.</p>

[swol]

<div></div><p>Well my main is a conjuror. And its true that when I started at the begening of EQ2 we were not a lot.</p><p>And my alt is ... ehm ... a ranger !</p><p> </p>

[Taishi]

<div></div>Lol when I made my conjuror in Nov. 2004 there were about 10 of us running around Innothule. They didn't even make an appearance really on our server until  LU 13 because we were turned into pure dps. Now I'm surprised if there are only 10 conjurors online at 4 am. It's a shame really because most of the people that make them their alts have no idea of the potential/danger of our class. Oh well, eventually they will learn I spose.

[Harri]

<div></div><p>I always die right after the MT goes down...well after my pet, Sir.. dies that is. I love being a Conjurer..great game and fun time.  We nee dmore utility..like old EQ...but I know, but so does everyone else.  I love to duo..i love to solo..I really love to group.  IN a real good group..it is the best, to put it simply.  I used to hang out with a Shadow Knight, Druid type healer( dont know the class exactly) and a swashbuckler...best group ever.  These people knew how to play and we had a blast.  What a group.  My best freind plays a Dirge...we duo and that is some great times also.  Used to Duo with a Templar women that was incrediable times there.  Better than playing a DPS fighter and having a cleric...way better.  She heals pet and i dps all out hard as i can..and make sure Pet holds argo..we mowed through camps.  I dont know how other conjurers feeel as I dont know another one on my server, well no one close to talk to in game...but I sure enjoy reading everyones post here.  </p><p>If your ever on AB and need a Jeweler...  please give me a tell, </p><p>Haerri Din' Houni</p><p>59 Conjurer and Master Jeweler</p><p>Proud Officer LotP</p><p> </p><p> </p>

[OperationsX]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Mystique wrote:<div></div><div>I rolled a Conjuror because it looked fun as hell to play. I have quite a few alts....I like to experience the game with different hats on, but to be honest a pet class was never my thing (all the pets talking from EQ1...the whole "yes, master" thing irked me). I always figured a pet could never hold aggro if a PC was even remotely nearby. But after grouping with one at length I began to get it. I also wanted something I could solo with at any point, which as we all know is easier than ever nowadays. Add the fact that a conj is a highly prized addition to a raiding guild, and it's really a no brainer.</div><div> </div><div>It's really not a bad thing that so many conjurors are out there now. They stack pretty well in a group, unlike other classes whose skills/spells might cancel each other out or cannot be cast untill whatever effect on the mob from the first caster wears off. People should be educated that 2 or more conj in a group is nothing but a good thing. Our pets can tank in a pickle, and we have different types of damage for any situation that comes up. An inordinate amount of aggro at times, without a reliable way to counter it, is about the only negative side to playing, or playing with, a conj.</div><hr></blockquote><p>And it took alot of blood, sweat and tears to get there with many summits, data gathering and many MANY months of hard waiting, to all the 'conjuror' rollers you need to remember that. Remember our class was one of the crappiest dps classes there was with fighters and just about all scouts outdamaging us constantly.  Remember that having 2 conjurors in a group was absolutely useless as there was no dot stacking and took about 8 months to get just that. Remember when our "dps pets" were worthless and the only thing worth even summoning was our fighter pet, making us like half of what a sorcerer was back, and all the months before the combat revamp.</p><p>We've come a long way, and those who picked a conjuror as their main class and have played it since DAY 1 know what kinda pain it took us to get here and finally see a class that *shreek* is working as intended and balanced.</p><p>To all the haters , remember that - blood, sweat and tears to get to where we are today and remember to focus on your own classes problems and eventually they will be fixed.</p><p>Conjuror - over a year in the making.</p>

[Mystiq]

<div></div>I've played a Mystic since November 8th, 2004, so I know what it means to play a very broken and underpowered class. I chose Mystic before anyone knew how much lagged behind in the healing department. I stood by my class throughout, and I'm glad it finally paid off. I don't need to take any ethical high ground though, just because I see Mystics being played more nowadays. The effects of playing a once unloved class has taken its toll however, and I'm not about to pick or play another class like that again.

[OperationsX]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Mystique wrote:<div></div>I've played a Mystic since November 8th, 2004, so I know what it means to play a very broken and underpowered class. I chose Mystic before anyone knew how much lagged behind in the healing department. I stood by my class throughout, and I'm glad it finally paid off. I don't need to take any ethical high ground though, just because I see Mystics being played more nowadays. The effects of playing a once unloved class has taken its toll however, and I'm not about to pick or play another class like that again.<hr></blockquote><p>I realize that, I was just pointing out the history of us and that we were no where near as good as we are today and what kind of sacrifices we had to go through for the good part of 2004-2005. Mystics are a good example, not nearly as effective as they are today (Hell I'd much rather have a mystic than a warden/clerics in xp groups now).</p><p>Again just a statement for most of the bandwagoners who mainly say 'Conjuror has always been powerful - or a no brainer' cuz that simply is not true, wasn't referring to all you even tho I quoted you I was just too lazy to quote EVERYONE that has said this :smileywink:</p>

[Jgok]

<div></div><div></div><p>Way back in EQ1, I played a Mystic and a Paladin, both Frogloks... At the start of EQ2, I knew that I would not be able to play a Froglok, and I also knew that I wanted something different for my beginning class (mainly because my Mystic and/or Paladin would just HAVE to be a Froglok). I started out in one of the midsized guilds on Permafrost (which has since grown into one of the largest guilds on the server, though I'm no longer with them). In the beginning, there waa me, and no other Conjurors. We got a second Conjuror after a while, but he was Navy, and as such had long periods where he just couldn't play regularly. Since then, I have been in two other guilds (currently leading my own guild), neither of which has had a single Conjuror other than me.</p><p>Until Live Update 13, I knew perhaps 3 or 4 other Conjurors on the server. Now, since we were fixed, I can't go into any zone in any level range without seeing a Conjuror hanging around Yeah, there's a LOT more of us than there used to be. A lot of it is FotM syndrome, but there are just as many folks out there who chose Conjuror as an alt just because they wanted a soloing character that was also group-useful (which we most definitely are).</p><p>Oh, and for the record...<a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/pplayer.vm?characterId=220361202" target="_blank">http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/pplayer.vm?characterId=220361202</a></p><span class="field_name_small"><font size="1" face="Courier New">Name             </font></span><font face="Courier New"><span class="field_data_small"><font size="1">Esheon</font></span><span class="field_name_small"><font size="1">Server           </font></span></font><a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/server.vm?serverId=202" target="_blank"><font size="1" face="Courier New">Permafrost</font></a><span class="field_name_small"><font size="1"><font face="Courier New">City Alignment   </font></font></span><font face="Courier New"><span class="field_data_small"><font size="1">Qeynos</font></span><span class="field_name_small"><font size="1">Created          </font></span></font><font face="Courier New"><font size="1"><span class="field_data_small">November 10, 2004</span></font><span class="field_name_small"><font size="1">Race             </font></span></font><font face="Courier New"><span class="field_data_small"><font size="1">Gnome</font></span><span class="field_name_small"><font size="1">Class            </font></span></font><a href="http://eq2players.station.sony.com/en/classes/index.vm?classId=29" target="_blank"><font size="1" face="Courier New">Conjuror</font></a><font face="Courier New"><font size="1"></font><span class="field_name_small"><font size="1">Level            </font></span><span class="field_data_small"><font size="1">59</font></span></font><p>Yep, I was there right at the beginning <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Message Edited by Jgok on <span class="date_text">01-31-2006</span><span class="time_text">10:56 AM</span></p>

[Arody]

<div>i will agree i have had Conj since i begining and it sucks cause like other stories i was only one in my guild and now we have at least 10. its making me sick because im getting to high levels and the lvl 20 conjs are taking all the lvl 50+ adp1 spells.....</div><div> </div><div>but i could just put a ban from all people so they could not take anything out :smileyvery-happy: GL is a very nice rank in a guild.... lots of options</div>

[big perm]

<div></div>Have you ever bought a car, and then seen that car everywhere you go? Or anything else in the place of the car... Roll a new toon that you don't see very many of, then see how many you start running into all the time.

[Klu]

I'v been seeing alot more necros than conjurors myself but niether anywhere near the most popular on my server. I'd say the most popular I'v been seeing is:FIghters: Berserkers and BruisersPriests: STILL Templars and Inquisitors far outnumber any other but Fury probably a close 3rdMage: Wizards and Warlocks probably a 2:1 or 3:1 ratio to summoners and been seeing quite a few illusionists coming up which surprises me since personally I would have went for the coercer.<div></div>

[Satene]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Loralor wrote:<div>i made a Conjuror because.. well... 5 years of Everquest1 Magecraft kinda get into you, and old loves are hard to leave behind...</div><hr></blockquote><p>Yeah Me too.  I was first a Mage in EQ and Conjuror is the closest in EQ2.   I am sorry to hear that we are FToM though.  From previous SOE experience that means there is a nerf bat about to swing.</p><p>-Satene-</p><p> </p>

[convict]

<div></div>This topic reminds me of kids at school..  "omg I cant believe all the people buying the new Jordans AFTER I got them".

[Doobur]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>convict wrote:<div></div>This topic reminds me of kids at school..  "omg I cant believe all the people buying the new Jordans AFTER I got them".<hr></blockquote>Best reply I have seen on this thread . <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Jgok]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Doobur wrote:<div></div><blockquote><hr>convict wrote:<div></div>This topic reminds me of kids at school..  "omg I cant believe all the people buying the new Jordans AFTER I got them".<hr></blockquote>Best reply I have seen on this thread . <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><hr></blockquote><p>It's not so much that, for me... Something like this happened whenever one thing was seen as 'cooler' back in school. This isn't happening because Conjurors are seen as 'cooler.' It's happening because people want to play a class that's seen as 'more effective,' especially at farming or anything else profit-related.</p><p>I've gotten a number of tells recently asking me how to solo named heroic mobs, or how to kite, or where to farm loot for cash as a Conjuror... These are not the reasons I started a Conjuror... I started Esheon because I wanted something different from what I had played before, and the pet control thing seemed interesting.</p><p>People who ask me about soloing named heroics start to get <strong>really</strong> disappointed when I begin listing off the spells they need to get to Adept 3, what level they need to be to effectively kite (and even then it's not that effective), what strategies they need to practice until they master them, and especially how long it can take to bring down certain mobs. In fact, several have declared they were quitting their Conjuror because 'I didn't think it would be this expensive to farm loot."</p><p>Folks who started their Conjurors at launch (or as their firs character) are, for the most part, not playing Conjurors just to farm... Folks who started their Conjurors in the past few months, for the most part, are... (unless it was their first character). There are exceptions to this rule, of course... Quite a few of the new Conjurors are just alts of people who wanted a good soloing class.</p><p>As one person previously said, I'll paraphrase...</p><p>Nobody likes being Flavor of the Month, as it usually means a nerf is incoming.</p>

[syri]

<div></div><p>Yeah the conjuror was my first character and I loved it alot and would like to make another one someday.</p><p> </p><p>Honestly though you guys are right most of the people who made one only did it cause they heard they could solo easily for loot and such.</p>

[Curati]

<div></div><p>I just made a Conj. I didnt make because everyone else is a Conj. I made him becasue after the newbie patch they made it so you get your pet right away. THIS I liked and I like the robe werers but I hate how they have no protection (wet-magic-casting-paper-sack) Anyways Ive been enjoying my Conj. I dont do bandwagons. I dont anylize numbers. I barely look at my exp bar when I play. You see I come from the Table-top gaming crowd. So when I play My character I PLAY my character. His gear choices arent the product of look on the net and get the best numbers.. his gear is the result of my experience in game. The only thing I do in EQ@ thats on the net is read this board. I come from a quest time of EQLive when they would say go see Javin but wouldnt tell you anything else about were in the game to find him. They have trivialized Quests in this game now so I have no reason to bandwagon anything. I walk across Antonica and do my little far seas trading company tasks at 2am in the morning with FREAK my Millipede pet.</p><p>good day</p>

[Daeloq]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Curative wrote:<div></div><p>I just made a Conj. I didnt make because everyone else is a Conj. I made him becasue after the newbie patch they made it so you get your pet right away. THIS I liked and I like the robe werers but I hate how they have no protection (wet-magic-casting-paper-sack) Anyways Ive been enjoying my Conj. I dont do bandwagons. I dont anylize numbers. I barely look at my exp bar when I play. You see I come from the Table-top gaming crowd. So when I play My character I PLAY my character. His gear choices arent the product of look on the net and get the best numbers.. his gear is the result of my experience in game. The only thing I do in EQ@ thats on the net is read this board. I come from a quest time of EQLive when they would say go see Javin but wouldnt tell you anything else about were in the game to find him. They have trivialized Quests in this game now so I have no reason to bandwagon anything. I walk across Antonica and do my little far seas trading company tasks at 2am in the morning with FREAK my Millipede pet.</p><p>good day</p><hr></blockquote><p>You don't have to defend yourself.  If you feel like playing a conj for whatever reason, then more power to you for rolling it up.  I think our class should take it as an honor that so many people are joining the ranks - it means we have a very good class.  I don't know why people have to feel like they're part of some secret club...  or that we're better or represent some more noble values because we created conjurors when the game began.</p><p>I happen to like mages, and planned my wizard to be my main.  I created an alt summoner to play when I wasn't playing the wiz with my friend, and ended up liking the summoner so much it became my full time character.  Does that make me any more enlightened or true to the roots than anyone else? No, it just means I found a class I liked.</p>

[Doobur]

<div></div><p> </p><blockquote><hr>Daeloq wrote:<div></div><blockquote> </blockquote><p>I happen to like mages, and planned my wizard to be my main.  I created an alt summoner to play when I wasn't playing the wiz with my friend, and ended up liking the summoner so much it became my full time character.  Does that make me any more enlightened or true to the roots than anyone else? No, it just means I found a class I liked.</p><hr></blockquote><p> </p><p>All I can say is AMEN!</p>

[StaticLex]

<div></div><div></div><div></div><div>Haha, OK so all these people just suddenly found a class they enjoy all at the same time, huh?</div><div> </div><div><em>Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.</em></div><div> </div><div> </div><div>Anyway, there is no need to explain, everyone pays their 12 bucks.</div><p>Message Edited by StaticLex on <span class="date_text">02-07-2006</span><span class="time_text">09:38 PM</span></p>

[Anonolo]

<div></div><p>I have an conjurer alt, because my main is a Warlock... hardly playing the Warlock solo, so I decided to take:</p><p>a) a Qeynos toon</p><p>b) a pet class for soloing.</p><p>And it's great fun... things I had really problems with my Warlock are now soooo easy to solo :O</p><p> </p>

[tyhan]

<div></div><div></div><p>I agree there are alot when it come to finding master1s and other spells but that is the only time Ive had any problems with it.... maybe just maybe if there is many of us then we wont get nerfed and our poor pets will stand the test of time. I also rolled a Necro and there alot of fun to ... almost better in some respects then the conjuror....she is still little but im having alot of fun with her. Eq1 we went threw having alot of Clerics at one time it passed... so im thinking this will pass.....some other class with be in the headlines.....</p><p>Tis all the same with provisioners to everyone has one.... the demand for food nodes is pretty tough between the ppl that are selling and those that are making food........T6 clove and pear is going for over 1-2 gold each on broker. But im in a great guild that I cook for and they supply me with what they can (team work).</p><p>Tyna 60 Conjuror  60 provisioner Befallen</p><p>Message Edited by tyhanna on <span class="date_text">02-08-2006</span><span class="time_text">06:27 AM</span></p>

[Klanch]

<div></div><div><font color="#ffffff"></font></div><p><font size="3" color="#ffffff">When the game first game out it seemed that half of the people running around Qeynos had a bug following them. Then reality set in. High level conjurers were having fits. Two conjurers in the same group was a total waste because out DOT’s did not stack, and no one seemed to want a conjuror in a group. People started to leave the class and make wizards. At that time I was in the largest guild on my server and was only one of two conjurors who played. Then the fix came. Conjurors could again group, but more importantly, our pets suddenly rocked. Everyone made a conjuror and we were suddenly popular again. My friends were in total awe as they watched me take on a group of 8 double-down even con mobs and easily win. When we group they are along for the ride. I just send in the pet and start my area spells.</font></p><p><font size="3" color="#ffffff">But don’t worry. We will get hit by a big nerf stick and everyone will jump to some other class. In the mean time, my scribe sells a lot of Adapt III’s to conjurors.</font></p><p><font size="3" color="#ffffff">By the way, has anyone noticed how many illusionists are on the newbie island these days? Twins everywhere. :smileysurprised:</font></p>

[Violat0r]

<span><blockquote><hr>Klanch wrote:<div></div><div><font color="#ffffff"></font></div><p><font size="3" color="#ffffff">When the game first game out it seemed that half of the people running around Qeynos had a bug following them. Then reality set in. High level conjurers were having fits. Two conjurers in the same group was a total waste because out DOT’s did not stack, and no one seemed to want a conjuror in a group. People started to leave the class and make wizards. At that time I was in the largest guild on my server and was only one of two conjurors who played. Then the fix came. Conjurors could again group, but more importantly, our pets suddenly rocked. Everyone made a conjuror and we were suddenly popular again. My friends were in total awe as they watched me take on a group of 8 double-down even con mobs and easily win. When we group they are along for the ride. I just send in the pet and start my area spells.</font></p><p><font size="3" color="#ff3300">But don’t worry. We will get hit by a big nerf stick and everyone will jump to some other class. In the mean time, my scribe sells a lot of Adapt III’s to conjurors.</font></p><p><font size="3" color="#ffffff">By the way, has anyone noticed how many illusionists are on the newbie island these days? Twins everywhere. :smileysurprised:</font></p><hr></blockquote>Wow, thats a scary coincidence, we just got completely nerfed on raid DPS due to dumbfire pets being killed by AOE AND now our pets have taken a hit point and power nerf. Not clear as to whether this is intended and linked to the (intentional) NPC pet nerf.Shocking if you ask me, not happy at no official feedback on this pretty [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] important topic. I have posted it in the gameplay forum with no luck so far. Can everyone please /petition this every hour on the hour untli we get some kind of response.On the bright side, less people are gonna be playing their newbie conjs when they hear about this....<span>:smileymad:      <span>:smileysad:</span></span><span>:smileysad:</span></span><div></div>

[Feodore]

<div></div><p>i`ve been a conji from beginning</p><p>starting the game, first mmorpg</p><p>after some weeks i realized: conji are s.h.i.t; BUT: i  loved my conji, i didnt change (it was my fist char.......), it was hard work to level,  took me hours of playing to get higher an higher; i listened to the other people talking in teamspeak about dps and was wondering I AM A MAGE CLASS TOO, is it bad playing??  perhaps. it took me days to see: the class is broken, not me; but i waited, tried to get better and better AND prayed (i loved my conji; it was my first char.........)</p><p>weeks months of playing, nothing changed, it s not easy to find groups  if there s  another dps class seeking, its hard to go on raids knowing all other dps classes are better and your pet is still broken......, everyone knows about the conji s dps.......</p><p>but suddenly  things change........ well my repair costs got higher;   but i love to have repair costs; my pet and i are damagedealer  <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p> </p><p>I understand why a lot of people like to play a pet class now (soloplaying and good grp playing; not a lot of twinks get high enough for raids),  BUT nobody should ever forget:  all the conji s of first days had one of the worst job on the server</p><p> </p><p>and yes: i think too, that the big bad nerf will hit us again (someday)    <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Pappayoo</p><p>valor</p><p>lvl 60 conji</p><p>lvl 60 sage</p><p> </p><p> </p><p> </p>

[StaticLex]

<div></div><div>NT</div><p>Message Edited by StaticLex on <span class="date_text">02-09-2006</span><span class="time_text">10:44 AM</span></p>

[Sluglord]

<div></div><p>I started a Conjuror in November, 2004, got to level 11 and...my wife and I got sucked into WoW for a year (we had been in the beta for WoW as well, and then our entire DAOC guild swapped over). I let EQ2 languish until October 2005, when I started playing again. When I rolled my Conjuror initially, I had never played a pet class before, and wanted something that would be good to duo with my wife's Warden. I didn't get much of a "feel" for it then.</p><p>When I started up again, I found the class to be extremely fun and very useful for duoing. Now, we mostly trio, adding a Guardian to the mix, and the combo of Guardian tanking, Warden buffing/healing, and my DPS (air pet, usually), has been very effective. We're all still only 44 because we don't have that much time to play, and we don't want to rush through things--this game is actually fun to level in, as opposed to many others, and we like to see the sights. But the Conjuror has been very good to me.</p><p>We're thinking of playing the same trio on the PvP server when it launches, even.</p>

[Meleania]

Stop complaining, they might actually nerf you, then you will REALLY have something to complain about<div></div>

[Klanch]

<div>At least we can USE pets on raids. I don't know what frustrated me more in EQ1, "don't use a pet" or "need another mana rod". :smileytongue:</div>

[Violat0r]

looks llike the panic is overwhen the masses find out that conj dumbfire pets are now SIGNIFICANTLY less useful on raids as theyre susceptible to AOE now AND the fact that conj pet hitpoints have been stealth nerfed to blue bugg£ry , people will stop playing their alt conjurers quite so much IMO.....<div></div>

[Mimzel]

<div></div><p>Its scary to find this thread in here, because I saw a thread called exactly the same a few weeks ago</p><p> </p><p>in the RANGER forum :p</p>

[StaticLex]

<div>lol</div>

[SilkenMaid]

<div></div><p>To funny :womanvery-happy:</p><p><font color="#ff33ff"><em><strong>* Silkwind_Runnyeye *</strong></em></font></p><p><font face="Garamond" color="#ff99ff"><em>Suffering from...</em></font></p><p><font face="Garamond" color="#ff99ff"><em>[Signature-Clueless]</em></font></p>

[Janl]

There's also one in the Brigand boards.<div></div>

[x82nd77]

<div>Brigands getting a heavy nerf would help thin their inflated population... we are up to like 10 on my server. talk about FOTM</div>

[Kanili]

<div>I started my conj after the L-13 combat change.. that just made IMHO  my healer so boring to play. So I looked around made serveral toons lvl'd them up to see which I liked and I ended up playing Conj and Necro, I'm hoping that they don't ruin the  fun of playing them as they did playing my healer. Both are fun to play.</div>

[Maskimxul]

<div></div>Does it really matter anymore?. everyone is a conj now. Mystics get a summoned pet. we got kicked in the grits with the enchanted pets and clones that illusionists get. Warlocks have netheros which granted it's a limited pet it's still a [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] tuff limited pet. I mean c'mon.. we're not gonna be nerfed we're gonne be phased out and replaced. lol

[MalevolenceXXX]

<blockquote><hr>Maskimxul wrote:<div></div>Does it really matter anymore?. everyone is a conj now. Mystics get a summoned pet. we got kicked in the grits with the enchanted pets and clones that illusionists get. Warlocks have netheros which granted it's a limited pet it's still a [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] tuff limited pet. I mean c'mon.. we're not gonna be nerfed we're gonne be phased out and replaced. lol<hr></blockquote>It matters to me. I like playing characters few other people play.I was <b>incensed</b> that SOE bowed to pressure once again and all the whiners who said "Wah wah wah Conjs/Necros be so nasty cuz they got pets. Wah wah wah I want a pet too!"Now everyone has a freaking pet. It drives me insane. SKs have a pet, pallys, rangers, Even assassins have a pet now! /ubersigh.After LU19 I talked to a level 43 enchanter who said he was taking on yellow's now that he had a pet. I most certainly could not do that with my conjuror. We even tried the same mob. He lived easily... I died despite saccing my pet.As far as populations go.... I was one of 100 conjurors *TOTAL* on the Kithicor when I started in Nov 2004. I just dinged level 50, and there are now at least 100 conjurors higher than me (thanks to how easy it is to level now, and how stupidly painless dying is). I hate it. Being a casual player I can't keep up.Oh well, guess I'll keep my head buried in the sand and not look up. Maybe I can feel special just because I actually know how to play my class, rather than the some of the others who just zipped through the levels.When people go..."Wow, there were 3 adds and you put your pet on them and stifled them and we didn't have to worry about them until the Named was dead... thanks!"or"Who healed the tank when he was almost dead and the healer was out of power? You did? How? Offering? Wow I didn't know you guys had that spell."or"Who pulled the mob off the healer even when he add all that aggro? You did? How? Oh you petrified him so he couldn't do anything for a few seconds and put your pet on him so that your pet would get aggro over the healer? Thanks, that was great."or"Whose fishies tanked for a few seconds after the tank died? That was awesome, gave the healer a chance to mezz and heal the tank and get back into it."...maybe I can still feel comforted by the fact that I'm *not* just another conjuror.It's not how many conjurors there are. It's how many GOOD conjurors there are.

[Jeradim]

<div><blockquote><hr>MalevolenceXXX wrote:It's not how many conjurors there are. It's how many GOOD conjurors there are.<hr></blockquote>Well said...</div><div> </div><div>P.S. - your guild name is awesome :smileytongue:</div>

[stingsa]

<div></div>Conjuror was my first class i made but i decided to also make a Warden cause i was in love with the wolf spell and i duo with my brother and heal him but after the spell changes i went back to my conj to see what had happened played a little and notice my pet kicks butt...so i went from lvl 21 to 30 in 3 weeks (thats fast for me) using my pet as a tank and my brother was a troub and we were killing even lvl giants in TS...

[TangBaBa]

<div></div><p>I think it may just seem that there are so many summoners because they stand out with their pets.</p><p>If you check eq2census.com, there are far more wizzies than there are conjies.</p>

[SmEaGoLLuM]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>StaticLex wrote:<div>I almost wish they'd nerf the class to kill off all the [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] band-wagon jumpers.  :smileyindifferent:</div><hr></blockquote>'Be careful what you wish for' :smileywink:

[StaticLex]

<div>I noticed the "pet for every class" thing too.  I find it disappointing.  I like the uniqueness in each class, it's precisely what makes them fun to play.  But SOE caves and gives all these limited pets to other classes to make them feel more.. like a different class.  They should say, Hey if you want a pet, play a pet class and be done with it.</div>

[Janl]

Yes, this has been a complaint of mine since the Combat Revamp/DoF.  I think that there shouldn't be so many limited pets handed out to so many different classes.  It works to dillute one of the key elements of the Summoner classes.<div></div>

[MalevolenceXXX]

<blockquote><hr>TangBaBa wrote:<div></div><p>I think it may just seem that there are so many summoners because they stand out with their pets.</p><p>If you check eq2census.com, there are far more wizzies than there are conjies.</p><hr></blockquote>On my server, Kithicor, there are 1900 wizards, 1700 conjs. If you exclude all the characters level 20, you get this. Conjuror is the 7th most popular character class.class countGuardian 1371Berserker 1171Monk 1137Bruiser 543Shadow Knight 1086Paladin 1434Templar 1397Inquisitor 716Warden 762Fury 1068Mystic 822Defiler 567Wizard 1400Warlock 793Illusionist 539Coercer 321Conjuror 1197Necromancer 1287Swashbuckler 646Brigand 329Troubador 533Dirge 554Ranger 1399Assassin 818

[Exordus]

<div></div><div>I've be away from EQ II for about 5 months now.  I cancelled my account right after LU #13 b/c I couldn't handle the whole complete overhaul thingy.  :smileytongue:  Anyway, I just re-activated my account 3 days ago.  My main was a level 33 Ranger, 2nd was a level 26 Guardian and third a level 24 Conjurer.  Seeing as I need to completely re-learn how to not only play each class, but the game in general....I've been surfing the class boards to get some help and see what's been changed.   My old friends said it's not the best time to come back as a Ranger (i'm not even going to get into any complaints as to why since I haven't been playing to speculate on what's nerf'd and what's "balanced&quot<img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> but none of the Rangers seem happy.  So, I went to the Guardian boards...and although they weren't majorly nerf'd, there all a lot of them who are still think things aren't the way they should be...</div><div> </div><div>Which brings me to this board.  And I must say, it's refreshing to see a board that isn't full of unhappy players!  I think I'll dust off my Conjurer and give him a whirl.  Thank guys.</div><div> </div><div>~Exordus~</div>

[._Jammer]

<div></div><div>Hi i made the fotm.</div><div> </div><div>I played EQ2 a year ago, stopped to play wow, but now back because of boredom and as I allways do when starting over I start a new class while stil playing my old alittle, something to spice it up compare and see if I stil want to hang on my main.</div><div> </div><div>Played a warrior and a warlock(pet class) in wow so was a rather obvious choise to go conjurer, wanted a mage for more aoe damage than my swashy and since my friends are stil into wow i need the pet to make soloing more laid back, if i had a good group waiting for me when i log on most likely i would have made a wiz or a warlock.</div><div> </div><div>Will i get to 50+ and steal all the epics? I have no idea, right now its more for fun than being the most powerfull</div><p>Message Edited by ._Jammer_. on <span class="date_text">03-02-2006</span><span class="time_text">03:20 AM</span></p>