My new guarenteed to offend macro

[Nanite]

<div>Ever been dealing with aoe heroics that keep doing in your pet? Well here's a macro that's sure to get that lazy healer's attention! :smileytongue:</div><div> </div><div>/gs the sure to offend pet damage notification</div><div>/gs hey stupid healer, the stupid pet is taking stupid aoe damage, so use your stupid heals or it'll</div><div>/gs die, and that'd be really stupid, wouldn't it?</div><div> </div><div>Enjoy, post rude remarks from healers here <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />.</div>

[Aera]

I've seen something similar like this before, although not as rude lol.  This is what usually happens...PlayerA: HEAL ME, FURY!Fury: Please don't tell me to heal.PlayerA: *dies* ya'll suck I'm leavin'.*PlayerA leaves the group*Fury: What a [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]wad I hate people who ask me to heal.Not as funny as I sit here and read it but it happens a lot in pickup groups.<div></div>

[silvercloud]

<div></div><div>Hah, I'll have to remember that.  I usually try not to tell other classes what to do (because it annoys me when others do the same to me), but not long ago I was grouped with a warden and my pet died a number of times.  Finally I said (in a very polite fashion) "Um, could you possibly toss my pet a heal now and then?"  To which he responded "Why?  It's not like you can't cast a new one."</div><div> </div><div>I love that sort of logic, it's so cute and endearing.  I mean, why heal anybody?  It's not like you can't just come back after dying.   Grrr!</div><div> </div><div>Sometimes I wonder how people like that make it through life, let alone a video game.</div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div>

[Violat0r]

<span><span><blockquote><hr>silvercloud wrote:<div></div><div>Hah, I'll have to remember that.  I usually try not to tell other classes what to do (because it annoys me when others do the same to me), but not long ago I was grouped with a warden and my pet died a number of times.  Finally I said (in a very polite fashion) "Um, could you possibly toss my pet a heal now and then?"  To which he responded "Why?  It's not like you can't cast a new one."</div><div> </div><div>I love that sort of logic, it's so cute and endearing.  I mean, why heal anybody?  It's not like you can't just come back after dying.   Grrr!</div><div> </div><div>Sometimes I wonder how people like that make it through life, let alone a video game.</div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><hr></blockquote>Thats just beautiful, kinda reminds me of the time I was in a pickup group in RE about level 35 with arguably the lamest tank id ever seen, he NEVER held aggro for more than a few seconds after pulling (with a bow), I couldnt believe how bad his aggro management was, when i started to look in my windows to see what was happening in combat, and saw, to my absolute horror the following appear in my chat window:<Tankname> Mercilessly taunts <Mobname><span>:smileysurprised:</span></span></span><div></div>

[Stamm]

$tank = Dude, do your job! Heal goddammit! I'm not seeing you cast at all!Me as a Mystic = I ward, I don't have to heal you because you're not being hit$tank = oh.. cool..Me = :-/<div></div>

[Loral]

<div></div><div></div><blockquote><hr>silvercloud wrote:<div></div><div>but not long ago I was grouped with a warden and my pet died a number of times.  Finally I said (in a very polite fashion) "Um, could you possibly toss my pet a heal now and then?"  To which he responded "Why?  It's not like you can't cast a new one."<hr></div></blockquote><p><em>Hum... Let me think you brilliant treehugger... Maybe because if my pet is taking damage, it is because it is getting the aggro. It also means it is higher on the mob's hate list than the tank, since it is getting attacked. With the added damage of my nukes and swarm pets, it also most probably means that, when my pet will die, I will be the next one VERY high on the hate list, making me the next target, and nothing short of a Rescue from the tank will be able to save me.</em></p><p><em>Now, do you want to have an easy ride with tons of XP by tossing a heal once in awhile on my pet, or do you want to burn all your power having to heal me, then have to hold on pulls to wait for power to come back? Or even wipe a few time because you will be the next one to fall after me?</em></p><p><em>I am not forcing you. It's your call in the end...</em></p><p>*lol* Brilliant... Just pure comedy gold. I am lucky to have groups usually always in-guild, thus I have few contacts with non-guilded people. But I do grab them, and it sometimes turns into weird stuff like that. In thoses times, I count myself lucky to be a Conjuror, and be able to face almost any situation by myself.</p><p>Message Edited by Loralor on <span class="date_text">01-13-2006</span><span class="time_text">06:39 AM</span></p>

[Sol-the-Wi]

Reminds me of a group I had in Poets Palace with a Fury who had almost 400 int self-buffed and less wis than me. Needless to say, we didn't get very far O.o<div></div>

[Spag]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Loralor wrote:<p><em>Hum... Let me think you brilliant treehugger... </em></p><hr></blockquote><p>Hey now, lets not Warden bash   :smileywink:</p><p> </p><p>but yeah, he should have been healing the pet.</p>

[Loranthala]

<div>My alt is a defiler and i play with my conjuror on a  laptop, its a way of seeing how another class can work with a conjuror, I can see how it might be a pain to heal the pet, but shouldn't be any complaints about targeting it.  Then again i keep my defiler on af and use group wards so pet is rarely hit in normal situations.  I've died several times in raids from lack of health on pet.</div>

[Aera]

<div></div><span><blockquote><hr>Violat0r wrote:<span><span><blockquote><hr>silvercloud wrote:<div>Hah, I'll have to remember that.  I usually try not to tell other classes what to do (because it annoys me when others do the same to me), but not long ago I was grouped with a warden and my pet died a number of times.  Finally I said (in a very polite fashion) "Um, could you possibly toss my pet a heal now and then?"  To which he responded "Why?  It's not like you can't cast a new one."</div><div> </div><div>I love that sort of logic, it's so cute and endearing.  I mean, why heal anybody?  It's not like you can't just come back after dying.   Grrr!</div><div> </div><div>Sometimes I wonder how people like that make it through life, let alone a video game.</div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><div> </div><hr></blockquote>Thats just beautiful, kinda reminds me of the time I was in a pickup group in RE about level 35 with arguably the lamest tank id ever seen, he NEVER held aggro for more than a few seconds after pulling (with a bow), I couldnt believe how bad his aggro management was, when i started to look in my windows to see what was happening in combat, and saw, to my absolute horror the following appear in my chat window:</span></span><span><span><Tankname]</span></span><span><span> Mercilessly taunts </span></span><span><span>[Mobname></span></span><span><span><span>:smileysurprised:</span></span></span><div></div><hr></blockquote>[Removed for Content]</span><div></div>

[Aya Lin]

<div></div><div></div><p>It never ceases to amaze me how some players miss the bleeding obvious - the pet dies - the conjuror usually follows - because if the pet has aggro - the tank doesn't.  (Doh!)</p><p>My main alt (if I can all her that) is a L45 Templar and I often duo with a Necro friend where his pet tanks.  I've have no trouble dropping reactives and healing his damage most of the time.  I very rarely pull aggro off him through my healing.</p><p>Oh - if there's aoe's that's usually when I drop the group reactive.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Message Edited by Aya Lin on <span class="date_text">01-18-2006</span><span class="time_text">01:48 PM</span></p>

[Merrygr]

<div></div><p>Ask SOE for a better UI instead. Unless something has changed in the last few months the pet health does not show up in the group window (been a long time since I had a pet class in group).</p><p>I used to play in a regular group including a conj with my Mystic. I did target the pet once in a while to see if it needed a heal, but since I usually trust implied targeting, one sometimes miss the AE damage the pet takes or if one of the mobs in a group of mobs go for the pet instead of the tank. Would have been much better if the pet hp showed up in group window.</p><p>/Merry</p>

[Spag]

<div></div>Would also be nice if group heals, regens reactives and wards affected the pet too.  I don't believe this to be the case, as I dont see the effect show up on the pet unless he is targetted directly.

[Shayariel]

<div></div><p>Hehe all depends, [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]ty tanks, [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]tty healers and also [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn]ty conjis. I am playing my warden atm, not high though, but when conjis try to be the MT with the fire pet and dont give the tank a chance to get agro...no way I heal the stupid pet :p</p><p>Really looking to forward to that at lvl 50 or so :p</p><p> </p>

[Loranthala]

<div>I duo conjuror and defiler, group wards do affect the pet.</div>

[Lethlorel]

My main is a fury, and my favorite  alt is a conj.  It's possible that some healers don't realize that they can buff and heal the pet.  You might just send them a tell at the beginning of grouping that if your pet gets low you will ask for a quick heal.  I usually dont worry about healing conj pets unless it is tanking or if the tank is so good I have a minute to spare from healing him.....I also toss out a group heal or a group hot  every so often (preempting general scout aggro)  and that does seem to affect the pet i think.On my conj --If the tank is good enough I can usually keep my pet healed myself.  If the tank isnt good enough---well, I switch to a tank pet on defensive <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  When the rest of the group asks why then I can say---well my pets are dying too fast.<div></div>

[Thmy]

<div></div><p>I keep all my pet to the same short name - in the hope the healer can use a macro to heal the pet</p><p> </p>

[Shayariel]

<div></div><p>If you heal through the mob you will heal the one with agro anyways, but if the conjis would also target the mob they would see when the pet gets agro and give the tank a chance to get it back, its power wasting to heal the pet all the time, so I kinda wait until its dead (WHEN the conj doesnt listen) and go on healing the tank.</p><p>Some heals from time to time for the pet is not a big issue, but sorry not a dps pet playing tank :p</p>

[Twist_nd]

<div></div><div>(Conjurer is my a 2nd alt behind a scout main and healer alt)</div><div> </div><div>When playing my healer, it rarely comes to my mind to heal a pet unless it takes agro and I can select the pet.  Usually as a healer you a focused on the MT for the majority of healing.  I throw out group heals for others unless they take agro and I can heal them before they die.</div><div>I understand that the pet is doing a huge amount of DPS, but the MT and healers are what is needed the most to keep the group from wiping (if these go down, the group will more then likely wipe).  The DPS is very important to finish off the mob in a reasonable amount of time.  I know that if my scout take agro, I'm more then likely going to die (unless I use deagro skills).</div><div>Telling a healer to "HEAL MY PET" is probably not going to get you anywhere.  As a healer, I don't like ANYONE to tell me to heal them.  You need to know your role and I know my role.  A dps role is to do as much damage as possible WITHOUT taking agro.</div>

[Shortyean]

<div>If the tank is not doing his job properly and the pet gets aggro then surely the healer doesn't need to heal the tank as he is taking no damage ??</div><div> </div><div>I agree that our role is too do as much DPS as possible without getting aggro. But recently I have noticed an extreme lack of compitence in Tanks during P.U groups.</div><div> </div><div>Its gotten to the stage where I can't send in my pet until the mob is down to 50% causing a long delay in taking the mob down. I used to play an Inquisitor and had no problems in healing whatever had aggro.</div><div> </div><div>I agree with an earlier post in this thread about the group box. Ig the pets health was shown to the group then I feel that a lot of the "HEAL MY PET" situations would dissapear.</div><div> </div><div>Raki (Lords Of Chaos)</div><div>lvl 47</div><div>Runnyeye.</div>

[Melianteas]

<div><font color="#ffcc66">My main is a conjuror and I have an alt warden so by my own xp if my warden is gruped with a summoner I keep an eye at his/her pet not only the main tank. </font></div><div><font color="#ffcc66"></font> </div><div><font color="#ffcc66">As conjuror if my pet is going to be main tank cause level or cause we don't have tank before the fight I always tell the healer to heal pet. If your petis maintank and dies conjuror dies and the whole grup dies unless someone can survive runing away like hell and usually never is the healer cause will become next target for mobs after pet and conjuror die. Never had a rude answer for any healer. I always say please heal pet if he dies we are doom. </font></div><div><font color="#ffcc66"></font> </div><div><font color="#ffcc66">Also I always noticed our guardian has problems to taunt mobs from my pet tank adept III (not always is possible to use the other pets (specially if is not healer and  grup is little) and usually when our grup dies is when that happens. I always thought maybe him only uses apprentice 1 and never bothered to upgrade his taunt abilities LOL!! I think I shall ask him and buy him as a present adept III taunt if that is the case. Cause someday I will lost my voice shouting "Taunt dammit Taunt!!" meanwhile our ranger is runing around like crazy man killing the mobs of my pet before it dies and they killed me (obviously that mad ranger is my husband).</font></div><div><font color="#ffcc66"></font> </div><div><font color="#ffcc66">But if the grup is balanced I prefer to use the aery pet and let the fighters do their job taunting and sweating when their life drops badly instead life of my tank pet. </font></div><div><font color="#ffcc66"></font> </div><div><font color="#ffcc66">But yes would be nice if more of the healers were more aware of the pets as the summoner has the spell to sacrifice its pet to heal the grup in an emergency so is not good the pet dies, and sacrificing the pet we sacrifice ourselves also if we have the aggro.</font></div>

[fxt]

<div></div>Unless the pet is MT you are just like any other DPS class in my book and when you pull aggro I'll be there with a ward and a badger.<p>Message Edited by fxt on <span class="date_text">02-11-2006</span><span class="time_text">01:57 PM</span></p>

[Spag]

<div></div><div>As my main is a Warden, when I group with a pet class, I usually tell them that I will keep an eye on their pet, but if things get hairy its not always easy to do so, and if their pet is taking a good amount of damage without being healed to feel free to point it out.  I don't get offended if they do this. </div><div> </div>

[Eyes_of_Truth]

<div></div><p>Simple logic, use your group specialty heals = )</p><p>I have a 52 warden, with master2 group regen, tossing that on the group not only helps out for AOE damage, but it usual will keep the pet alive too, or atleast give me time to cast the life-saver on the group/single target life saver on the conjuror if the pet is sure to die.</p><p> </p><p>My only request is that the swarm pets also be targetable for group buffs/heals, it's completely rediculous that they can be hurt by mobs but not healed/defended by players!</p><p>I also have a 43 conjuror and 51 warlock, so im a fan of swarm pets lol...</p><p>But i digress, healing pets is important imo since summoners are a staple dps class, not to mention i might need that pet for a life-saving Sacrofice later! nothing like power and hp for the group in just 1 second :smileywink:</p>

[Spag]

<div></div><blockquote><hr>Eyes_of_Truth wrote:<div></div><p>Simple logic, use your group specialty heals = )</p><hr></blockquote>Yeah, I realize that, and even use my group regen to suppliment my single target regens, with the side effect of keeping the rest of the group topped off.  This leaves my direct heals available for emergencies.  But a group regen isn't going to keep the pet up for long if thats all it has on it.  Generally this is not a problem.  If its a mob or two, I can keep an eye on all group members and toggle over to the pet to check as well, Its when 2 or 3 adds come into play, that I may lose track of the pet.  Using the F keys helps, but it really depends on what all is going on.