Is there a way to let the pet assist the MT ?

[Beldin_]

<DIV>Hi</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Is there a way that you don't always have to let the pet manual attack the next target in multi encounters if it doesn't has aggro ?</DIV>

[Ellestil]

<P>You mean is there a way that the pet would auto attack all mobs in say a four mob encounter without you having to click on each mob individually to get the pet to attack it? No, but I'll share a trick with you...</P> <P>If and only if you know for a fact that it doesnt matter if your pet cont's attacking mobs in an encounter of say four mobs, you can add all four mobs to your pets hate list one at a time by picking it then sending the pet to attack, then you switch targets and press attack again, switch and attack, etc. Do this on all four targets and each will be added to the pets hate list. After that, when one mob dies your pet will attack the next on its list.</P> <P>I don't use this often, in fact, the only time a rarely use it is when say in a raid where the main mob is being tanked and an add is off tanked by another group. At first my pet is on the main mob and so am I ( nuking ), the add shows up and depending on the need I may send my pet on the add and myself stay on the main target. When the add dies, the pet will automatically come back to the main and attack. Other times I may leave the pet on the main and I will go help with adds.</P> <P>So you have some options if you choose to use them, but there is no built in auto attack that pets have on multi-mob encounters. Probably a good thing though, imagine all the roots and mez's that would break if the pet ran around attacking all willy nilly!</P> <P>Ellestil 60 Conjurer Najena--Shadow Syndicate</P>

[Beldin_]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Ellestil wrote:<BR> <P>So you have some options if you choose to use them, but there is no built in auto attack that pets have on multi-mob encounters. Probably a good thing though, imagine all the roots and mez's that would break if the pet ran around attacking all willy nilly!<BR></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>There would be no mezz-break if the pet just attacked what the MT is attacking, however .. thanks .. so i was not only too blind to find out a way for that, and i think i have to rearrange my hotbars maybe so that pet attack would be on a  better accessable hotkey :smileyindifferent:<BR>

[Lerath_Litefo]

What I do is this:  in slot one of my primary hotbar I put an assist macro which I always set to the MA at the start of each grouping session.  Then on slot two I put a pet attack button.  This way, every time a mob dies in a group fight, I just press 1 then 2 and the mob will instantly be on whatever the main tank is fighting.You could probably combine those into a single macro, but i find it more helpful to leave them separate because I don't need the assist part when I'm soloing, but can still use the attack hotkey when soloing.<div></div>

[JonasBlackmore]

*nod* I use the two-hotkey solution as well -- would be really nice if you could set your pet to protect someone other than you, though -- set it to "protect" the tank so it keeps fighting the MT's target <div></div>

[GSOO]

<P>Thanks ....I was always a fan of /target (MT/MA/SA) in EQ1. Never got it to work. So from your post, do they have the /assist (MT/MA/SA) working. I will try it out. </P> <P>I personally like the start attacking all mobs one at a time, and then kill them. I put defensive stance on the pet....and then when close by open up with the group aoes.....the pet 95% of the time keeps aggro. Just have your target who attacking me button ready. Also, a very big lesson, when non aggro mobs around watch out for the Area Effect spells (earthquake type). I am still picking splinters out of my butt where the tree spanked me from Zek. I go meleeing, and get hit occasionally. This only gets melee skills up and defensive.</P> <P>You can try (tab) key but that really does not work.....need to find the target next encounter mob. then you can hit that key, attack with pet rinse and repeat.</P>

[Beldin_]

I have the main control buttons always in the hotbar and normaly just select the MT with F1 to F6 .. however the problem is that in multi encounters you have to press the attack button new each time a mob dies .. and pet first runs to you .. then back to the next mob .. :smileymad:

[Violat0r]

<div></div><span><blockquote><hr>Beldin_ wrote:I have the main control buttons always in the hotbar and normaly just select the MT with F1 to F6 .. however the problem is that in multi encounters you have to press the attack button new each time a mob dies .. and pet first runs to you .. then back to the next mob .. :smileymad: <div></div><hr></blockquote>Beldin, please can you elaborate on the macro, I have used quite a few but in terms of selecting a target, does "f2-6" actually select the appropriate f keys target? Presumably you would simply follow that with /petattack ? I would play with this but am at work ATM and hi GSO its Bel, good to see you doing some research <span>:smileywink:</span> </span><div></div><p>Message Edited by Violat0r on <span class=date_text>11-22-2005</span> <span class=time_text>04:40 AM</span>

[Beldin_]

<DIV><A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/view_profile?user.id=146241" target=top><SPAN>Violat0r</SPAN></A></DIV> <DIV>Sorry i'm from germany and normally understand quite some english, however i have big problems to understand what you want to say :smileyindifferent:</DIV> <DIV>With F2-F6 you always select the groupmember on that position and attack his implied target, so i never really understood for what some people need assist-makros <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[Raybour]

<div></div>Beldin, You were very clear - no problem with language.  Yes, I too use the F2-F6 keys to target my group members.  It works very well.  Then, I have the "=" key as my "pet attack" macro.  I believe all I have in the macro is "/petattack".  So, I select the group member with the corresponding F key and hit = and my pet attacks the selected group member's implied target.  If we're engaged against a group of mobs, every time a mob dies I wait for tank to target his next victim in the group, hit = again and my pet attacks the new target.  Just make sure you know which F key is for your main tank and you're good to go.   Remember that when someone drops the group the number may change as the party gets rearranged.  (If I have to assist my pet, btw, I hit F1 twice and this targets him - very useful when soloing or when pet pulls aggro from tank, but I assume everyone knows this anyway.) The only time I use an "/assist" type command is in a raid when I need to support someone not in my group. One question for folks out there:  I haven't tested this in a long time because I've not had to assist someone else's pet in a long time - I know if I hit F1 twice it targets my pet.  What if there is a Conj or Necro at, let's say, F3?  If I hit F3 twice will it target his/her pet?  I think that's supposed to work, but haven't tested it in memory.  If so, that would be the way to target and assist a pet functioning as a tank. J Wellington Wells, L52 Conjurer, Steamfont Server <div></div><p>Message Edited by Raybourne on <span class=date_text>11-22-2005</span> <span class=time_text>11:16 AM</span>

[GSOO]

Don;t worry Viol is in my guild....we can;t understand him either<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />.......Yes Bel my mage is a beast for being 33.....he is leveling so fast and killing things my stinky dorf templar only imagines<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />. Heck he has closed out 2 of the the three quests in Zek docks<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[GSOO]

<P>Has anyone been able to make a macro key like EQ1. I had some great keys, but not sure that work. The macro would look like this.</P> <P>/assist MeatShield</P> <P>/pause 10                                   (1 sec pause)</P> <P>/petattack</P> <P> </P> <P>That would be the key. It causes the me to auto assist the main tank, wait 1 sec for cpu to catch up. and then send pet in to beat on it. After the main target dies, you just wait to press the assist button again. I know we have now more then one command to process in the macro, but never really got it to work except for emotes<img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />. It would be nice to see they actually fix somethings.</P> <DIV>Ray, btw it does work, but only for one pet. and it is the last pet summoned. So if you have the pet up, and summon the shroom from splitpaw, all targeting goes to the shroom and not the real pet. My templar uses the double F'keys all the time target peoples pets to keep them at max health. My templars view is if the mob is whacking on something other then the healer it is a good thing. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV><p>Message Edited by GSOOne on <span class=date_text>11-22-2005</span> <span class=time_text>08:21 AM</span>

[Beldin_]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> GSOOne wrote:<BR>Yes Bel my mage is a beast for being 33.....he is leveling so fast and killing things my stinky dorf templar only imagines<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />. Heck he has closed out 2 of the the three quests in Zek docks<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Yeah .. you can really level fast .. i'm over 58 now with only 12d 15h played time :smileysurprised: And that even though the character didn't got the 100% bonus vitality :smileymad:</P> <P>@Raybourne</P> <P>I simply pulled the attack-button to the 8 on my hotbar .. so thats nothing else than your macro .. however i also have a macro with : pet attack,pet preserve_self,pet preserve_master that i user after pet pulls <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>What i miss is still that the pet automatically attacks the next target as soon as the MT attacks it :smileysad:<BR></P>

[Violat0r]

<span><blockquote><hr>Raybourne wrote:<div></div>Beldin, You were very clear - no problem with language.  Yes, I too use the F2-F6 keys to target my group members.  It works very well.  Then, I have the "=" key as my "pet attack" macro.  I believe all I have in the macro is "/petattack".  So, I select the group member with the corresponding F key and hit = and my pet attacks the selected group member's implied target.  If we're engaged against a group of mobs, every time a mob dies I wait for tank to target his next victim in the group, hit = again and my pet attacks the new target.  Just make sure you know which F key is for your main tank and you're good to go.   Remember that when someone drops the group the number may change as the party gets rearranged.  (If I have to assist my pet, btw, I hit F1 twice and this targets him - very useful when soloing or when pet pulls aggro from tank, but I assume everyone knows this anyway.) The only time I use an "/assist" type command is in a raid when I need to support someone not in my group. One question for folks out there:  I haven't tested this in a long time because I've not had to assist someone else's pet in a long time - I know if I hit F1 twice it targets my pet.  What if there is a Conj or Necro at, let's say, F3?  If I hit F3 twice will it target his/her pet?  I think that's supposed to work, but haven't tested it in memory.  If so, that would be the way to target and assist a pet functioning as a tank. J Wellington Wells, L52 Conjurer, Steamfont Server <div></div><p>Message Edited by Raybourne on <span class="date_text">11-22-2005</span> <span class="time_text">11:16 AM</span></p><hr></blockquote>Thanks for this Beldin, I was a little rushed at the time so my question could have been phrased slightly better, what I REALLY wanted to check was if you had a macro set up e.g lets assume MT is first in group i.e f2, could you : MACRO LINE 1 : F2 MACRO LINE 2: /Petattack In order to automatically assist the MT, I appreicate you would have to change this for each group you get in but for the sake of right clicking the hotkey and changing 1 digit...... And GSO thanks for the personal slur <span>:smileywink:</span> Just remember, no matter which is your highest or main toon, you will always still be "the Stinky Dwarf" Bel </span><div></div>

[Daeloq]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Beldin_ wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> .. however i also have a macro with : pet attack,pet preserve_self,pet preserve_master that i user after pet pulls <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR> <DIV>Oh, I like that!  For some reason, I hadn't thought of making that a macro.</DIV>

[GSOO]

<P>Convert not stinky....he baths once a month whether he needs to or not in the Peat Bog<img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P> </P> <P>GSOGnomercy says, "Thats right, I am the main....Convert just mean and kept me locked away in the broom closet....Me and the human named Harry broke out....now I am getting ready to kick the Big Dorf's Butt."</P> <P> </P> <P>So can you use the F Key  as a macro as in F2 targets your second person.....I have to try that.</P>

[Escher13]

<span><blockquote><hr>Raybourne wrote:<div></div> One question for folks out there:  I haven't tested this in a long time because I've not had to assist someone else's pet in a long time - I know if I hit F1 twice it targets my pet.  What if there is a Conj or Necro at, let's say, F3?  If I hit F3 twice will it target his/her pet?  I think that's supposed to work, but haven't tested it in memory.  If so, that would be the way to target and assist a pet functioning as a tank.</blockquote></span> Yes, that is how it works.  F1-F6 all target the player in the position, second hit targets that player's pet, then back to player.  I've used that to locate the Chanter's pet (who looks like all the other mobs half the time) and target its implied target. <div></div>

[Mordith]

Am I the only one that uses implied targeting?  When grouping I just keep the MT targeted and just hit /pet attack everytime a new mob is being fought. <div></div>

[Raybour]

LOL - no, you're not the only one.  That's what my post is all about, above, and what some others on this thread are talking about, too.  Using the F keys to target the tank or pet-acting-as-tank allows me to attack implied targets.  That's how I assist, too.  I have macroed my "petattack" button so that I can hit a key on my keyboard instead of clicking on pet attack with the mouse. J Wellington Wells <div></div>

[Mordith]

<span>^^ Ok, I re-read what you were doing and it is exactly what I do except I have the /pet attack hotkeyed to my #4 key (the same as my mage in EQ1 - can't teach an old dog new tricks). As to:<blockquote><hr>Raybourne wrote:<div></div>Beldin, One question for folks out there:  I haven't tested this in a long time because I've not had to assist someone else's pet in a long time - I know if I hit F1 twice it targets my pet.  What if there is a Conj or Necro at, let's say, F3?  <i><b>If I hit F3 twice will it target his/her pet? </b></i> I think that's supposed to work, but haven't tested it in memory.  If so, that would be the way to target and assist a pet functioning as a tank. J Wellington Wells, L52 Conjurer, Steamfont Server <div></div><p>Message Edited by Raybourne on <span class="date_text">11-22-2005</span> <span class="time_text">11:16 AM</span></p><hr></blockquote>Yes, that works.</span><div></div>