HO ? What's OH for a conjurer ?

[Jor]

<DIV>Hi !</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I just recently figured out that I haven't made a single HO since the big patch.</DIV> <DIV>Yeah I'm too busy summoning out my aqua or pyrotechnics, doing the stupid 1 dmg for the rule, then turning pet into a killing machine with blaze of glory...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>All in all I realize I don't use HO anymore... Well we just have *one* spell to trigger it, and generally it's the same one we must use after...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Anyone HO anymore ?</DIV>

[Vlawde_Mcde]

<P>I do. I send in my pet, cast an AoE to slow.damage the mobs, then start HO's.</P> <P>  If I am soloing a pretty badass mob, I'll cast all my DoTs on them, then finish with HO's</P> <P> </P>

[Shirodan]

Very very rarely do i ever use HOs anymore. I always calculate my damage per mana efficiency with my spells, and you actually get more damage out of DoTs and swarm pets than you do usin the nukes neccesary to trigger HOs. Besides, fire or air pet kill them so fast, its not neccesary.

[XtremSummo]

<DIV>Agreed. I also go by casting time Vs effect and will balance off HOs on that basis. I still use HOs but they happen at the back end of fights mostly. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Whenever there's a hole in the good spells available - i.e. all the better choices being greyed out on their timer - then I'll chuck out an Arcane Augur + Nuke. A good DoT or swarm pet is usually still better than completing the HO, but if I have some time or can usefully use the right type of spell anyway then I'll complete the HO.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>When soloing single target mobs completing with a Stun can be handy. When soloing group mobs completing with PBAoE or AoE Nuke can be handy too. More often though you end up with the lightning symbol of course - and then I'll complete it if I have a moment or if I have a Master Strike to use.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>X</DIV>

[Jeradim]

<P>Same here.  I unload all my DoTs and swarm pets while I'm debuffing with my Templar.  If I'm in a group I -might- have time to get off 1 HO against a ^^^ mob before it dies, but it's not really needed because of all the DPS already on the mob.  If it's just me and Aldurr against a ^^^ mob I'll get in a couple HO's after applying DoTs/swarms, then re-apply the DoTs and finish it off with HO's if necessary.  Against normal, ^ or ^^ mobs though they die so quickly anyway it's not needed.  I have Aqueous Hunters, Swarm of Bats and Shattered Earth at Adept III, everything else at adept I so the dps from those is usually enough unless it's a really long fight (against named's or whatever).</P> <P>If you're in a group with another Mage though you may as well trigger the HO, because with another mage nuking as well you can fire them off pretty quick.</P>

[Loral]

<DIV>I usually don't have the time, in a typical battle, to use HOs. I prefer to conserve power and let the DoTs do their job, while the stun/stifle refresh.</DIV>

[Fayline Fyrecat]

<DIV>I'm in the same boat.  Since LU 13 and the linking of ALL our DD spells, I almost never use HOs anymore; and IIRC, the damage is about half that of the actual DD used to start/finish it.  Not worth the trouble anymore, IMO.</DIV>

[Loranthala]

<DIV>Only time I attempt a Ho anymore is when I push the wrong hotkey, or my cat decides she wants to play and presses the hotkey.   So doesn't happen very often, even though she recently wiped a raid...</DIV>

[Daeloq]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Shirodan wrote:<BR>Very very rarely do i ever use HOs anymore. <STRONG>I always calculate my damage per mana efficiency with my spells, and you actually get more damage out of DoTs and swarm pets than you do usin the nukes neccesary to trigger HOs</STRONG>. Besides, fire or air pet kill them so fast, its not neccesary. <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Agreed.  The problem I run into while soloing higher level heroics is my power pool.  So I make sure to use only my most power efficient spells.  On light blue ^^^, I'll end up just cycling Fiery Doom Ad III, Hunters Ad III, and my stuns (and throw in a couple shots with the power-free wand) just to have enough power to finish a fight.  If I throw in the nukes (even with the HO) or lower efficiency DoTs, I go OOP.

[Melianteas]

<DIV>I always use HO when Im fighting against gruped moobs. I start sending my pet then my aqueous hunters (it's a 98% chance after do that the HO will use the star -grup area efect-) so I start my HO and I choose the shattered earth. So I hit them all at once and I do damage over time. Also it depends of each fight I will choose a spell or an other. But I have always time to use many HO without spend so much power.  If a moob ignores my pet cause I got the aggro I use the chains and focus in the rest of the grup or I send to him my pet until gets teh aggro.</DIV> <DIV>If I am fighting a solo moob sometimes I don't use HO it depends how hard it is.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I use more HO now than before the LU13.... </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Level 40 here.</DIV> <P>Message Edited by Melianteas on <SPAN class=date_text>10-16-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>07:21 AM</SPAN></P><p>Message Edited by Melianteas on <span class=date_text>10-16-2005</span> <span class=time_text>07:24 AM</span>

[Blitzrain]

<P>I never use HOs soloing anymore.  </P> <P>Too much else to do DPS wise....especially since getting Elemental Vestment at 58.  </P>

[BigRedWo]

I rarely if ever actually use HO's anymore.  I do it sometimes for a change when I'm bored.  Most fights are done by the time I'm done casting my spells.  HO's are usually an after-thought if the MOB hasn't dropped after dropping the DOT bombs. <div></div>