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Loral
06-29-2005, 03:26 AM
<DIV><A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=spellart&message.id=54409#M54409" target=_blank>http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=spellart&message.id=54409#M54409</A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Guk server down ATM. Anyone can enlighten on this piece of info? Is it better or worst for us?</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr> <DIV> <HR> </DIV> <DIV> <P>Another unintended change that snuck into this update (which we are not reverting) is an upgrade to summoner pets: they no longer spawn with a down arrow, thus both their health and autoattack damage have increased. Warrior pets especially will benefit from this change. The temporary downside is that tier upgrades aren't improving the pets right now, but that should be made up for by the more durable pets. The tier upgrades will start working with the new combat rules.</P> <P></P> <HR> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>

Jack-o-wisps
06-29-2005, 03:32 AM
Just saw that message for Moor myself, has got me wondering.  Anyone out there played since the patch and noticed differences? <div></div>

SkinnyFats_EQ2
06-29-2005, 04:37 AM
<DIV> <DIV>So does this mean a Master pet is now the same as an App I, or that a level 50 pet is the same as a level 38?</DIV></DIV><p>Message Edited by SkinnyFats on <span class=date_text>06-28-2005</span> <span class=time_text>08:56 PM</span>

Chakra74
06-29-2005, 04:57 AM
<P>Playing right now with my adept 3 pet at level 43.  He is much much stronger.  I just watched him hit a creature in lavastorm for over 200 damage with a regular attack. </P> <P>This is too good to be true.</P>

AngelAtRi
06-29-2005, 06:28 AM
<div></div>Thought I was imagining things. I took a blue con ^^ with little trouble.  Enjoy it while it lasts <span>:smileywink:</span> <p>Message Edited by AngelAtRisk on <span class=date_text>06-28-2005</span> <span class=time_text>07:28 PM</span>

hollywoo
06-29-2005, 09:34 AM
Yup, at lvl 49 Im soloing lvl 47 heroic snow leapords in EF, the pet changes rock

Ellestil
06-29-2005, 11:53 AM
<P>My take on the second part of his statement is this....</P> <P> </P> <P>The difference in damage you see now is the fact that the pet is no longer one down arrow but even con. However, besides level improvement, the pets special attacks and such have not improved. Which means, when you upgrade your pet from say app3 to adept 3 within the same level, you gain no real benefit from his specials at this time. They do not increase. The benefit you gain from upgrading is only that the pet will level with you longer.</P> <P>But, this also means that after the spell and combat changes go into effect, the pets specials will scale with upgrades. So you may start seeing a noticeable change in all pets damage after that. Of course, the mobs will be tougher, so we may be back to square one. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P> </P> <P>Ellestil 50 Conjurer Najena Shadow Syndicate</P>

Ishbu
06-30-2005, 12:38 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> AngelAtRisk wrote:<BR> Thought I was imagining things. I took a blue con ^^ with little trouble.  Enjoy it while it lasts <SPAN>:smileywink:</SPAN><BR><BR> <P>Message Edited by AngelAtRisk on <SPAN class=date_text>06-28-2005</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>07:28 PM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>There may be hope yet if this is true <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

stronghea
06-30-2005, 07:31 PM
I duel box a nec/conj, after the update I decided to pull out the stops and find out what they could do. I used the conj (lvll 26) adt3 tanking pet (the lvl 24 one i think) and the necro (lvl 24)  warlock adt 3 pet. I was mowing down yellow ^^ heroics gaints pretty easily. If I got an add I was dead but just a single yellow ^^ wasnt a big deal. So yea the pets have been buffed up nicely. <div></div>

Tinker
06-30-2005, 08:35 PM
<DIV>I noticed that I was going through white and yellow solo mobs pretty fast, but I also noticed that my pet seemed to use more power. He is the adapt III level 24 pet. The fights were not long, but his regineration for power seems slow. At level 31 with tier 3 food I am regenerating power at 3 times the rate of my pet. I tried to continue fighting with letting him regin power, but he has a hard time holding aggro when out of power.</DIV> <DIV>One more thing, he is sometimes opens with a ranged attack now. I don't remember my earth pet having that before. Maybe it came at a certain level. </DIV>

stronghea
06-30-2005, 08:47 PM
fireseed maybe? I have seen my pet pull (cast) using this ability from time to time. <div></div>

BigRedWo
07-03-2005, 05:29 PM
I LOVE that my pet pulls for me with a spell now.  Makes soloing so much easier for me.  I've noticed that my pet's power is draining quickly as well, which in my mind means he's casting more than he used to.

Ronin
07-03-2005, 06:17 PM
Basicly, now pets are equal to same as caster level, depending on skill of pet being used. App1 for instance will be one level lower then the caster it seems, and App 2 will be same level as caster until a certain number of levels is gained, seems to work like this.... App4 = levels to max spell level, so take the lvl10 Tellurian Recruit App4, it will level to lvl20 then stop progressing. Adept 1  would then level to lvl21, adept 2 lvl22, and adept 3 lvl23, and master 1 lvl24 respectively speaking. Currently I'm lvl22 on my COnj and about to hit 23 so will confirm this in a bit. But my pet is still same as my level, and should level with me to 23 when I ding since its adept 3. Then at 24 it will stay level 23, and i'll use my tellurian SOldier adept 1 that I have atm. What this also means in respects to the posts made by the dev's is they are not planing to alter this, instead they will change how pets work in the coming combat rebalance patch. This will let our caster pets open and scale dmg up better, giving us very high DPS with lower tanking, or letting our Tank pets have higher tanking and agro and about same dps as current.  So in light of this, any pet skill app2-master 1 isn't going to be really any better then the later, minus it will level with you longer, offering more use and ability to use it for you. So, don't rush off and spend 70gp on a Tellurian SOldier Adept 3 or 2pp for a master, cause its not going to do any more dmg then say a app2,  just you'll keep it even level longer. And as is, app4 will get you to the 10 level mark, So say at lvl50, you'll have a lvl38 pet with app4 skill, or lvl50 pet with adept 1, or could get to lvl52-53 with master 1. And look for a tank pet again at level 54 with coming expansion. But like I said, this is just my take on it, not a certainty it will stay or work this way, just what I see happening atm. <div></div>

BigRedWo
07-03-2005, 06:30 PM
I've spent the last two days in Splitpaw.  My Tellurian Soldier is Adept1, and stopped leveling with me at 36.  That little booger is tough.  He's been trucking along with me, handling up to 4 mobs at a time.  He's died on me a couple times, but that's just because I've become a little lax on pet healing since the update.  I'm pushing hard for 38.6 so that I can have my little purple monkey.  :smileyvery-happy:

Ronin
07-03-2005, 06:54 PM
I bet a Tellurian Soldier Adept 3 will level to lvl38, if the adept 1 levels to 36, since adept 3's are effectively 2 slots up from the adept 1's. Anyone confirm this? I would but not that  high level yet. <div></div>

wullailhuit
07-03-2005, 10:29 PM
Myt bet is as the Veteran Pet is classed as a tank he'll be hit more often for more damage after the changes...so we'll be back to where we were previously once all the changes to classes come in. <div></div>

DLk
07-04-2005, 12:41 AM
<div></div>Yes Divar, it will stop leveling at 38. I am both happy, and upset about all of this. I have been upgrading my earth pets to adept 3 as soon as i got it,  assuming that they were better in every way than the app 3 or 4 <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Im glad to see that we are finaly getting an improvement. <div></div><p>Message Edited by DLkat on <span class=date_text>07-03-2005</span> <span class=time_text>01:42 PM</span>

Runelaron
07-04-2005, 11:07 AM
<P>This is actualy part of the Pet revamp that was due to come out in late APR early MAY this was befor they descided to rap it all up in the combat system change.</P> <P>The new features that are coming are.....</P> <P>Pets will scale accroding to player level and spell version.</P> <P>Pets will have better abilitys to accomidate thier element.</P> <P>Pets will be more differentiated through there dmg..IE, Earth strongests, Air fastes, ect..</P> <P>Pets will be more of a accet to a conj dmg rating.</P> <P>Pets might be giving a image overhaul.</P> <P>All of these are due with the Combat system revamp.</P>

Rant-
07-08-2005, 04:18 PM
<P>Sorry yall misunderstood Moorgard I believe,</P> <P>/qoute</P> <P><FONT color=#cc66cc>Another unintended change that snuck into this update (which we are not reverting) is an upgrade to summoner pets: they no longer spawn with a down arrow, thus both their health and autoattack damage have increased. </FONT></P> <P><FONT color=#ffffff>/end qoute</FONT></P> <DIV>In each tier (app, adept, master) the lower end ones are a level or 2 below you in essence... So the Adept 1 pet spawned with a down arrow where as the adept 3 pet did not.  The changes in tiers (app to adept to master) still, very much affects your pets stats, and abilities. Its the upgrades within that tier that does not.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The spell changes they are putting in place on the back end are affecting our current spells but since they already have plans in place for them to change they are not too worried about it currently. It seems like they are having to roll out a whole new spells DB and they are doing it a piece at a time.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Again, a master 1 pet is going to still be stronger than an app 1, its not just how long it will level with you. Not only do the stats improve but they get more skills / spells.</DIV>

K'aldar
07-09-2005, 12:27 AM
since the patch my aery outrider is doing great.. actually outdamaging my hero. sad to say my fire pet still sucks tho. <div></div>