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Chesty
12-07-2006, 05:52 AM
<DIV> </DIV> <DIV>After some hard grinding to get to my 71'st AA, I couldn't wait to try out Thought Snap.  I know most of my fellow coercers (as per the worldwide coercer chat channel) are not going for Thought Snap, but I thought it was a great skill to counteract memwipes or a certain nuke happy wizzy in my guild.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I finally ding my 71st AA to find out "Thought Snap" is broken.  It's not just broken in that it doesn't work; it has the potential to wipe your raid on every cast.  Here is my hours worth of testing:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>No matter the situation (if the tank has hate or not), when you activate Thought Snap, the target mob locks on <STRONG>any</STRONG> random player in your group, not a "fighter" class as it says in the description.  Let's say your wizzy gets aggro and you active TS, you have a chance the mob will lock on your tank, and an equal chance that the mob will go to your healer, or a scout, or a mage, or yourself for 7 seconds.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Before I extensively tested this, I used it in a raid when the MT lost aggro.  Instead of the mob locking on the tank, the mob locked onto the Templar in the MT group and killed him.  This spell, as it is now, causes raid wipes instead of preventing them.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>I then went for another few hours testing in a group of guildies.  Guess what happened?  Random luck who gets aggro EVERY time I cast it.  I even had a scout get aggro after I used it, and the scout was on another island in TT on his way to us.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Please look into fixing this spell ASAP.  It has the potential to be a great spell, but as of right now, it hurts more than it helps.  </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

The Dark Savant
12-07-2006, 01:17 PM
Ouch, especially considering that Coercive Healing doesn't work either.<div></div>

KillerMojo
12-07-2006, 06:41 PM
<DIV>Add this one to the list of broken EoF AAs I guess.  *sigh*  :smileysad:</DIV>

WrathOfKhan
12-07-2006, 06:46 PM
Can someone enlighten me as to what is wrong with Coercive Healing?

The Dark Savant
12-07-2006, 07:07 PM
There's a thread on Coercive Healing here: <a href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=achievements&message.id=5802" target=_blank>http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=achievements&message.id=5802</a>Which I now notice also has a link to this thread, so I guess I've created some sort of infinite link loop in the time-space continuum. Cool.<div></div>

Leawyn
12-07-2006, 11:35 PM
In Beta, I /bugged Thought Snap every single day. It was one of the first AA's that I took because it looked really cool. In the at least 25 times I cast it (stopped after that) it never once landed on a fighter. Twice it was me, usually it was one of the healers, sometimes another mage or scout. One time, like someone else said, it went to someone who had just revived in MM Castle. They were at the zone in and we were over by the stairs that go up to the second floor. He couldn't possibly have had agro, since he just revived, but the mob went streaking across the zone to get to him, and killed him again as he was coming back to us. He wasn't happy to say the least (that was the last time I used it, when it was obviously broken).

Kyriel
12-07-2006, 11:38 PM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> The Dark Savant wrote:<BR>There's a thread on Coercive Healing here: <A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=achievements&message.id=5802" target=_blank>http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=achievements&message.id=5802</A><BR><BR>Which I now notice also has a link to this thread, so I guess I've created some sort of infinite link loop in the time-space continuum. Cool.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>lol <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Lockeye
12-08-2006, 12:35 AM
Thought Snap, Coercive Healing, and Dispel Magic are all fixed in the next test server update.

Leawyn
12-08-2006, 12:41 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Lockeye wrote:<BR> Thought Snap, Coercive Healing, and Dispel Magic are all fixed in the next test server update.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>OMGOMGOMGOMGOMG /faint!

Kyriel
12-08-2006, 12:42 AM
<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Lockeye wrote:<BR> Thought Snap, Coercive Healing, and Dispel Magic are all fixed in the next test server update.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Thankies

Wrapye
12-08-2006, 01:14 AM
With Dispel Magic being fixed, will it affect charm that has been cast on a fellow group/raid member?  There is already a thread about whether or not it will cancel charm on the forum, but figured since it was being addressed here, we might get a response.Sure, I could test it next raid, then respec away from it if it doesn't, but there is no real reason to keep it a secret, as it will be posted on the forums soon enough anyway.<div></div>

sunbeamt
12-08-2006, 01:15 AM
<div><blockquote><hr>Lockeye wrote:<div></div>Thought Snap, Coercive Healing, and Dispel Magic are all fixed in the next test server update.<hr></blockquote>Good to hear.</div>

Kyriel
12-08-2006, 02:35 AM
<P>meh nvm</P> <P>Message Edited by Zemfira on <SPAN class=date_text>12-07-2006</SPAN><SPAN class=time_text>01:35 PM</SPAN></P><p>Message Edited by Zemfira on <span class=date_text>12-07-2006</span> <span class=time_text>01:35 PM</span>

SecretNinja
01-04-2007, 11:30 PM
<FONT color=#00ccff size=2>Thought Snap is still not working for me at all. Last night during a raid I used the spell to return aggro to the only fighter in my group and instead it maintained aggro on a Conjurer that was in another group in the raid. It still seems to be picking random targets just as it was before, broken. Unless it was just weird sort of screw up anyway. It had the normal recast though so it didn't seem as if it had resisted.</FONT>

snyanya2
01-05-2007, 03:52 AM
Yep, its still broken.  Heres another thread discussing the fact that thought snap is still broken after the promised fix in the LU 30.  <a href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=27&message.id=17127" target=_blank>http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/board/message?board.id=27&message.id=17127</a>I have yet to see a dev reply to it .... sad panda <span>:smileysad:</span><div></div>