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Mentla

11-20-2006, 10:45 PM

PvP is a little quiet at the moment as everyone is off playing with their dolls (Faes) so I went off the grind some PvE this weeked. I'm 90% master rest Adp III and I was landing maybe 40% of my spells in RE even on blue. Pre-update I didn't have this problem, and RE mobs were yellow then!<div></div>

Rahatmattata

11-22-2006, 02:42 AM

Yes, yes they did. I rolled a new mage after EoF and the dreaded LU29 and it's simply unenjoyable atm. I leveled to 21 hoping it would get better the higher level I was and the more gear I could get, but so far, it hasn't helped. Subjegation and Ordination is capped, yet roots and nukes were getting resisted about 50% of the time (best guess and honestly not exaggerating). I have all app1s, with a couple of select app4s because adept1s are too expensive atm. Master2 mez is getting resisted maybe 10% of the time (maybe a little less than that) on blue mobs. I leveled a coercer to 47 about 6 months ago, and rarely had trouble mezzing and controling high yellows with adept1. As of right now, the game is really not fun anymore (for me) and I will be taking a short break until 1) prices on adept1s and gear stablizes and 2) SOE does something about the resist rates. If SOE does nothing to change resists for the better, I most likely won't be coming back (not that I expect anyone to care, I'm just sayin). IMO, it's no fun at all to see resist after resist and getting owned by blue con solo mobs. I used to be able to kill a couple of mobs in succession without getting one resist fully app1 on various different mage classes I have played. Now, I can rarely kill a mob without at least 1 (usually more like 3-<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> resists, even with a few select app4s. sigh

Sydias

11-22-2006, 03:14 AM

I have found that my spells are resisted a LOT more now. It's not unbearable, but it does make a big difference in difficulty. off-topic... what are Fgaes? :smileyhappy:

Leawyn

11-22-2006, 05:07 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cannibas wrote: Yes, yes they did. I rolled a new mage after EoF and the dreaded LU29 and it's simply unenjoyable atm. I leveled to 21 hoping it would get better the higher level I was and the more gear I could get, but so far, it hasn't helped. Subjegation and Ordination is capped, yet roots and nukes were getting resisted about 50% of the time (best guess and honestly not exaggerating). I have all app1s, with a couple of select app4s because adept1s are too expensive atm. Master2 mez is getting resisted maybe 10% of the time (maybe a little less than that) on blue mobs. I leveled a coercer to 47 about 6 months ago, and rarely had trouble mezzing and controling high yellows with adept1. As of right now, the game is really not fun anymore (for me) and I will be taking a short break until 1) prices on adept1s and gear stablizes and 2) SOE does something about the resist rates. If SOE does nothing to change resists for the better, I most likely won't be coming back (not that I expect anyone to care, I'm just sayin). IMO, it's no fun at all to see resist after resist and getting owned by blue con solo mobs. I used to be able to kill a couple of mobs in succession without getting one resist fully app1 on various different mage classes I have played. Now, I can rarely kill a mob without at least 1 (usually more like 3-<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> resists, even with a few select app4s. sigh <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> Can I have your stuff? Its not as bad as you say. You can look at my profile on EQ2players, and see that I don't have gobs of +sub gear, and I didn't get the +sub AA's either, and I get resisted maybe 1.5x as much as I used to. Meaning if I had a 5 mob encounter that I ae mezzed, before EOF I usually got at least one resist. Now I may get 2, but not every time. My AE mez was working quite well every time I used it the last few days. Some of my other AE spells do get at least 1 resist, but I also have alot of proc gear so that might be what's resisting (I only go by the sound, since I raid and don't usually take the time to scroll through all my combat text to check what spell actually resisted).

UmanAsi

11-22-2006, 05:15 AM

I have always had problems landing stuff with app1..my master adn adept 3 land nearly everytime<div></div>

Mentla

11-22-2006, 06:21 PM

I don't have a single spell that isn't Adp III or Master and I'm getting resisted waaaaay more than I did say two weeks ago.And my bruisa was running around with possibly the most twinked out Fury I've ever seen the other night and he was getting so many resists it was driving me nuts!<div></div>

Ibunubi

11-22-2006, 08:14 PM

I've seen a lot more resists overall. The resistability change really screwed our Encoutner Mez and Stun. At Master level, they are 3% Easier. I didn't pay 6p to have an "easier" spell. Hey Meds, did they just change the AE Mez to only do a max of 4 targets in PvP? I just noticed it couple days ago.

Rahatmattata

11-23-2006, 06:32 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Leawyn wrote: Can I have your stuff? No, but you can ead. Its not as bad as you say. Actually, my experience is exactly as I posted. I'm not exagerating. Had a sage make all app4s for me last night, makes little to no difference. You can look at my profile on EQ2players, and see that I don't have gobs of +sub gear, and I didn't get the +sub AA's either, and I get resisted maybe 1.5x as much as I used to. Meaning if I had a 5 mob encounter that I ae mezzed, before EOF I usually got at least one resist. Now I may get 2, but not every time. My AE mez was working quite well every time I used it the last few days. Some of my other AE spells do get at least 1 resist, but I also have alot of proc gear so that might be what's resisting (I only go by the sound, since I raid and don't usually take the time to scroll through all my combat text to check what spell actually resisted). Gratz to you, and to others that are having the same problems I am: I hope it gets better soon. <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>

Itilgore

11-23-2006, 02:33 PM

<DIV>As far as specific numbers are concerned I just don't know. However I do know that I chose my basic nuke as M2 at level 14. At level 18 I tried to nuke a level 17 three times and got three consecutive resists. The fourth one landed killing it (if it wheren't a vvv I would have been very dead). I did notice there is an increased amount of resists. When being brave I can't even take on a yellow even though I have junk gear and spells but shouldn't I at least beat something a level higher as a caster? With luck maybe it will be balanced out.</DIV>

Mentla

11-23-2006, 06:24 PM

<div><blockquote><hr>Ibunubi wrote:<div></div> I've seen a lot more resists overall. The resistability change really screwed our Encoutner Mez and Stun. At Master level, they are 3% Easier. I didn't pay 6p to have an "easier" spell. Hey Meds, did they just change the AE Mez to only do a max of 4 targets in PvP? I just noticed it couple days ago.<hr></blockquote>No idea really, PvP is completely dead since expansion. 80% of people are hiding in new instances and the rest just run around with their Deity one shot kill buttons. Not had a single decent one-on-one or group fights since pack, whereas this time two weeks ago you'd be looking at several per day <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div>

aliotis

11-23-2006, 11:10 PM

I started a wizzy for the expansion and there are alot of resists. I'm sure that with the removal of Fizzles that they have made adjustments to the resistances of mobs, However it is way out of hand. My level 70 coercer used to be able to get close to full time out of his high level adept 3 charm (I can't afford a Master even if i could find one) on blue mobs, but at the moment I get about 3 or so charm breaks within the spell duration time. This is out of hand. As alot of posters have said casters are not fun to play right now and I'm terribly disappointed. Wynn

Tanatus

11-24-2006, 12:21 AM

Here is a little score I got after week or so testing Background: I have ~600int while on run (yes Int DO help land spells better), lvl 70/55 (enchanter tree INT/STA/WIS hibrid, coercer tree maxed Total Domination). All skills around 360-382. All spells but amnesia and mana cloack are master 1-2 Green/blue conned mobs - single target mez, single target stun - no difference (oh btw Deep focus been nerfed as well down to 5% harder from what ever it was)... AE mez .. bleh ... ok let say around 25% resistance. AE stun/PBAE stun - as it was before While-Low Yellow - single taget mez/PBAE stun - no difference as before, single target stun bonce around 15-20%, AoE stun bonce around 25-33%, AE mez bonce around 40% High Yellows (aka lvl 74 mobs) - the only spell that lands more or less relaible is Sonic Boom (PBAE stun), single target mez bonce out around 15-20%, single target stun bonce around 25-30%, AE stun bonce around 40%, AE mez bonce around 66-75% time P.S. Adding warlock to group don't do a [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] aka +40 to all casting skill don't do any difference in resistance

Leawyn

11-27-2006, 10:56 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Cannibas wrote: <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Leawyn wrote: Can I have your stuff? No, but you can ead. Mature... Its not as bad as you say. Actually, my experience is exactly as I posted. I'm not exagerating. Had a sage make all app4s for me last night, makes little to no difference. Wait, you were using app1's? Well no wonder you were getting resisted. Check out the resist modifiers on those. There's a reason that app2's and app4's are so easily attainable, you are never meant to live on app1's. You can look at my profile on EQ2players, and see that I don't have gobs of +sub gear, and I didn't get the +sub AA's either, and I get resisted maybe 1.5x as much as I used to. Meaning if I had a 5 mob encounter that I ae mezzed, before EOF I usually got at least one resist. Now I may get 2, but not every time. My AE mez was working quite well every time I used it the last few days. Some of my other AE spells do get at least 1 resist, but I also have alot of proc gear so that might be what's resisting (I only go by the sound, since I raid and don't usually take the time to scroll through all my combat text to check what spell actually resisted). Gratz to you, and to others that are having the same problems I am: I hope it gets better soon. Or maybe you're trying to paint yourself off as worse than us, because you are using app1's. Upgrading your spells and gear will help you tremendously. <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>