PET WIKI PAGE!!

[ca]

<DIV><STRONG>BOMBODALE </STRONG>has started an EQ2i pet wiki page located here:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><A href="http://www.eq2i.com/articles/Coercer_Pets" target=_blank><FONT color=#c8c1b5>http://www.eq2i.com/articles/Coercer_Pets</FONT></A></DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>right now pet details are sparse and submissions are needed to make this a nice database for pets,</DIV> <DIV>Please add any pets you have charmed, give what details you can and I will try to fill in any gaps when</DIV> <DIV>I have nothing to do at work.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>If you cannot or do not want to edit the actual page just leave pet info in this thread and it will be added</DIV> <DIV>as soon as possible.</DIV> <DIV>Thank You!</DIV> <DIV> <HR> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffff00>As of 12/14/2006: there are a total of </FONT><FONT color=#ff6600>58</FONT><FONT color=#ffff00> pets listed total over 6 tiers on the page.</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffff00>                             T2: 6    T3: 6    T4: 10    T5: 11    T6: 10    T7: 15</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffff00>                            keep adding them!</FONT></DIV> <DIV> <HR> </DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffff00>12/17/2006:  someone wiped the page clean then left a nasty little message, I had the page backed up</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffff00>                    so we didnt lose any pets, however the EQ21 admin has a lot of the pages locked to</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffff00>                    prevent the vandalism so we have to wait for them to unlock it before people can </FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT color=#ffff00>                     start submitting again</FONT></DIV> <DIV> <HR> </DIV> <P><FONT color=#ffff00>12/20/2006: THE PAGE IS UNLOCKED, start adding pets again.</FONT></P> <P></P> <P></P> <P></P> <HR> <P><FONT color=#ffff00>12/28/2006: Added 3 new links {Pet strategies} {Non Pet Strategies} {Farming Strategies}</FONT></P> <P></P> <HR> <P><SPAN class=time_text><FONT color=#ffff00>1/12/2007:  Page is now a month old and has 80 pets listed over 6 tiers and one strategy, more to come so keep adding!</FONT></SPAN></P> <P><SPAN class=time_text></SPAN> </P><p>Message Edited by cavv on <span class=date_text>01-12-2007</span> <span class=time_text>09:42 AM</span>

[Demodicus]

Wiki Is pretty bad man anyone on the net can edit the info, I never trust wikipedia <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /><div></div>

[The Dark Savant]

I strongly suggest you start a page on <a href="http://www.eq2i.com/articles/Main_Page" target=_blank>eq2i.com</a> instead. Wikipedia is an online encyclopedia rather than a game information repository, and your page will eventually be deleted for being uncyclopediac. eq2i is a specifically Everquest 2 related Wiki, so it'll be fine there.<font size="-1"> </font><div></div>

[Bombodale]

<div></div><div><blockquote><hr>The Dark Savant wrote:I strongly suggest you start a page on <a target="_blank" href="http://www.eq2i.com/articles/Main_Page">eq2i.com</a> instead. Wikipedia is an online encyclopedia rather than a game information repository, and your page will eventually be deleted for being uncyclopediac. eq2i is a specifically Everquest 2 related Wiki, so it'll be fine there.<font size="-1"> </font><div></div><hr></blockquote>I have created a paget at eq2i.com<a target="_blank" href="http://www.eq2i.com/articles/Coercer_Pets">http://www.eq2i.com/articles/Coercer_Pets</a>There's nothing there yet. I wanted to copy and paste the pet guide from this forum over, until i realized there are copyright issues. If <a target="_blank" href="../view_profile?user.id=240745"><span>Diadem1</span></a> can give permission or copy the guide to this page, it would be great.</div>

[ca]

<DIV>ok was going to port the page on wikipedia to eq2i.com but bomb started one there already so the community can use that one, I have been keeping track of a lot of the things I run into and will start updating the eq2i page as soon as possible, gotta add those pets.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Bombodale, what formating do you want to use? only reason I ask is because I started to set the other one up by zone and it started to get really complicated, there are A LOT of zones, and more coming, thats why i went with pets by tiers instead, plus the adventure pack specific pets. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Getting excited about this though, can't wait to get a good resource going, I loved the pet source for SWG before they destroyed my wonderful creature handler.</DIV><p>Message Edited by cavv on <span class=date_text>11-12-2006</span> <span class=time_text>06:53 PM</span>

[electricninjasex]

Wikipedia doesn't seem like the proper place for this.<div></div>

[ca]

it isn't and its not on wikipedia its on eq2i.com, see above link.

[Dekiri]

I really wonder why there are always only the "so so" pets shown in those listings. But i guess it is the fear of nerfs that exclude the cool pets from those lists/sites. You take for example the awsome level 55/56 priest type mobs in SS wich make you able to solo white ^^^ in SS easy at level 52 53 already. I would strongly suggest that those looking for pets do it themselves instead of hoping for the best on the pages. This will both save us from the nerfbat and make the game more interesting if you actually have to find the good pets.<div></div>

[ca]

<DIV>huh? first this list just started yesterday and hasn't even started getting filled out yet, second you see the best pets listed all the time:corpse candles, chest in nek 3,</DIV> <DIV>third if you don't see it on the list......add it, then it is on the list.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>enough pages of chat have been written on some of the more powerful pets and how folks here solo white heroics that it could have been nerfed by now, creating a resource so people can compare pets and go shopping is not a bad thing.</DIV>

[AziBam]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Dekiri wrote:<BR>I really wonder why there are always only the "so so" pets shown in those listings. <BR>But i guess it is the fear of nerfs that exclude the cool pets from those lists/sites. You take for example the awsome level 55/56 priest type mobs in SS wich make you able to solo white ^^^ in SS easy at level 52 53 already. <BR><BR>I would strongly suggest that those looking for pets do it themselves instead of hoping for the best on the pages. This will both save us from the nerfbat and make the game more interesting if you actually have to find the good pets.<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>So um...which pets might those be? Not that I have any real interest in them as a lvl 52 coercer...noooooooo...it's all for the good of the community of course.  :smileywink: 

[Alaeth]

<blockquote><hr>Dkel wrote:<div></div>So um...which pets might those be? Not that I have any real interest in them as a lvl 52 coercer...noooooooo...it's all for the good of the community of course. :smileywink: <hr></blockquote>I would assume s/he is referring to the Anuk'Sul Chancellors and Sul'Dal Friars, both of which spawn around the back door to Silent City underneath the Bay of Anuk. From what I remember of leveling in SS, those are the only 55-ish mobs in the zone. Note that they spawn mixed with guardian and paladin types, so you may have to clear the spawns a few times before you get one of the right type to spawn.Also, they're hardly as game-breaking as the first poster made it sound. Sure, they're the highest-level mobs in the zone, which does help, but they're just your standard cleric-type (templar, if I remember right) mobs other than that. You won't be able to solo any heroics with one that you couldn't with any other caster-type pet.

[Dekiri]

<div><blockquote><hr>Alaeth wrote:<blockquote><hr>Dkel wrote:<div></div>So um...which pets might those be? Not that I have any real interest in them as a lvl 52 coercer...noooooooo...it's all for the good of the community of course. :smileywink: <hr></blockquote>I would assume s/he is referring to the Anuk'Sul Chancellors and Sul'Dal Friars, both of which spawn around the back door to Silent City underneath the Bay of Anuk. From what I remember of leveling in SS, those are the only 55-ish mobs in the zone. Note that they spawn mixed with guardian and paladin types, so you may have to clear the spawns a few times before you get one of the right type to spawn.Also, they're hardly as game-breaking as the first poster made it sound. Sure, they're the highest-level mobs in the zone, which does help, but they're just your standard cleric-type (templar, if I remember right) mobs other than that. You won't be able to solo any heroics with one that you couldn't with any other caster-type pet.<hr></blockquote>You want the clerics... you can actually have the clerics TANK ^^^ mobs they just heal themselves for 1600 to 3000 as soon as they get down and if it gets close you can just put in a stun and they will heal up and you are gtg again. And yes it is way easier to solo with these then to solo with the mage pets avaliable int he zone. The risk when soloing with these compared to the risk when doing the pet attack/back off trick is so much lower and its actually fast + less downtime.</div>

[Kardg]

<P>Added....</P> <P>A Runnyeye Sorcerer to the list</P> <P>Nuke Range with master charm is 700-1000. They have a decent amount of HP.</P> <P>I'll add the Thaurtemage in Zek soon once I get the numbers back on its damage.</P>

[Roriondesexiest]

In SS I seem to remember using the caster anz'mal  ^^, they come in groups so you have to kill the other one but I found them to be some of the hardest nukers out there. <div></div>

[ca]

<P>Love the RE warlocks, nuke for 1000k and AoE for 600, will add to the list, definetly for soloing I love preists the best since they self heal and tank, sure its slower than the huge nukers but the self heal is a wonderful thing, you can chain kill without having to root or pause and they seem to hold charm longer than the mages.</P> <P> </P>

[Dekiri]

Most of the healer type mobs dish out awsome dps as well. Be it DoT's or Nukes and they all seem to start healing as soon as they get below 40% health.<div></div>

[ca]

11/14: cleaned up page, added ? between empty paramiters to keep lines, filled in some descriptions and added some pets

[ca]

gonna be adding a ton of EoF pets since a lot of them are also charmable by necros (have a lvl 70 necro and lots of undead in EoF zones)

[Nazgard]

I must admit this is awsome, thanks for this page.Will add pets as soon as i got something to share. Are level 52 now though, and all i had to share was the Froglok Templar in TT... and maybe the Tangleflies... they seem to stun/dot (for) alot...Keep up the good work!<div></div>

[ca]

<P>cool, the more pets added the better, I am trying to modify my combat parser to isolate the attacks of any mobs I charm, kinda difficult especially if I use it to fight the same type of mob.</P> <P>added two more pets today.</P>

[Skua]

awesome !need info in eof zones =D gonna start to charm around <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[ca]

<P>went charming last night in steamfront mountains and man the pickings are slim for caster pets of any type, though I did find some lym lanterns that are fury type just havent had a chance to take it through the paces yet</P> <P> </P>

[Facedown]

Im making a coercer this week and plan on leveling him using only charm so, ill be adding atleast 2-3 pets per tier.<div></div>

[ca]

<P>sounds good, the more the merrier.</P>

[Roriondesexiest]

<blockquote><hr>cavv wrote:<div></div> <p>went charming last night in steamfront mountains and man the pickings are slim for caster pets of any type, though I did find some lym lanterns that are fury type just havent had a chance to take it through the paces yet</p> <hr></blockquote>Haven't found much of anything yet that was worth anything.<div></div>

[ca]

yeah steamfront is not looking good for pets, I charmed a witch doctor but all it did was debuff, no self heal no nukes no dot's, the lantern I only managed to get one of and didn't get a chance to fight with it because it broke charm and killed me, all its spells were strong fury types, looks like a wisp so I think that is a good one just hard to control. for higher levels I charmed one of the undead gnomes in loping plains I don't have the specifics with me at work, will get it later, but those are templar types that seem to do great damage and are incredibly easy to control, I play at work on the weekends and will compile a lot of info saturday and sunday promise.

[Alaeth]

The Mistmoore Censors in Loping Plains are wizards. The ones I charmed only ever did Lightning Burst for a solid 2k-3.5k damage per attack on a very fast recast cycle, which was fairly nice. The only problem with them is that they come in pairs, so eventually your pet will disappear when its group's respawn timer expires (unless they've fixed that bug/"working as intended" feature?).Other Loping Plains mob types...Mistmoore Lectors are SKs, Bummer Gang Bandits are brigands, those deep one consorts or whatever they're called (down by entrance to Catacombs) are defilers. Over by the defiled druid ring, the tainted rumblers (the four-legged mobs) have a fairly nasty PBAoE poison that hits for 1.5k-2k initial damage+500/tick. The tainted growth worms in that same area have a decent DoT as well, if I remember right.I was in Crypt of Valdoon last night (got the 'chanter set forearm piece from the final named, too, though it's not all that great on its own) and didn't notice anything in there that was really worth charming. Some of the vampires near the first named are paladins, so they'll do Refusal of Grace for a fairly significant amount of damage, but that's on a 1 minute recast timer. The werewolves don't have any strong specials, and most of the other vampires are guardians. I ended up using charm to "hold" one of the door vampires in each pair so we didn't trigger the flame traps by killing them both, but mez would have worked fine for that too.

[ca]

<P>well my coercer isn't in t7 yet so I will have to wait a bit before fully experimenting in loping plains, I have explored the undead pets though since I have master undead charm on my necro, in crypt of valdoon there is one group that is 3 ^ mobs, one is a csater that does quite a bit of damage in nukes and DoT's but that is the only caster I found in the zone, soon as I get on this weekend I will start adding every mob I run across into the pet wiki.</P> <P>remember if you have any info you can leave mob name lvl and location here, any notes would be nice but I can track it down and add those to the wiki page later.</P>

[Kardg]

<DIV>Updated. Added two T4 Mobs and Corrected the "Enchanted Siren" to its proper name, level range and description.</DIV>

[The Dark Savant]

For those discussing the lack of pets in Steamfont: Balespring Witch (level 48-49) is a good warlock pet in Steamfont - you can find them in the wetlands.<div></div>

[ca]

actually started finding several good mobs last night, will update today

[ca]

Added a few more pets and descriptions, including some steamfront and an undead t7 mob (still goofing with the necro)<p>Message Edited by cavv on <span class=date_text>11-18-2006</span> <span class=time_text>02:59 PM</span>

[Roriondesexiest]

Mistmoore Servant in New Tunaria does some kind of Life-Tap that hits for 20k a pop and they use it often. Doesn't work on the stone guardians or other servants.. but rips through the rest of the mobs there. <div></div>

[Alaeth]

One problem with those Mistmoore Servants is that they'll auto-aggro on any Tunarian mobs; whenever one is in range, you see something like "A servant of Mistmoore emerges from the shadows" print out in non-combat chat and then it starts automatically attacking. Also, if I remember right, they don't regen health at all, even out of combat.

[Nazgard]

<div></div><a target="_blank" href="http://www.eq2i.com/index.php?title=A_ley_lantern&action=edit"></a>Just added "a ley lantern". This is a really nice pet in Steamfont Mountains. Fury type, nukes for up to 2.5k i've seen+dots for 300-400, and hits for about 200-450, and selfheal up to 2k.<div></div>

[ca]

yeah just tried a ley lantern tonight, they are fantastic pets for solo grinding and mopping up all those quests

[Oldlore]

Anyone find anything decent in EOF about 54-56ish?  I'm sick of POF and I cant find anything decent around that lvl anywhere in EOF.<div></div>

[Alaeth]

There are some warden-type mobs that are about that level in Lesser Faydark by Tunare's Grove. I don't remember the exact names, but they have Nettleshield up. One thing I did notice was that some mobs with the same names are different classes, so you need to look for the buff in this case.

[The Dark Savant]

<div></div>Something interesting I noticed in Lesser Faydark - while some of the fay drakes have names that suggest they're priests/mages, none of them seem to use any CAs at all.The fairy sorcerors in Lesser Faydark do cast, though (wizards from memory). Can't remember where they are exactly. There are also warlock-type fungus in the caves near the waterfall.<div></div><p>Message Edited by The Dark Savant on <span class=date_text>11-21-2006</span> <span class=time_text>01:00 AM</span>

[Mr. Dawki]

<P>personaly i dont want to post the pets that i know work best</P> <P>because i know the second i do they will be made uncharmable</P> <P>thats how it works in this game</P> <P>find something that works for you</P> <P> wait 3 weeks</P> <P>its gone</P>

[Mentla]

Are you guys only looking at pet damage?  I was clearing some quests in EL and had to hit those goblins just up the beach so I grabbed the nearest pet - those spiders there.  They may not nuke for much (I didn't check) but the hold agro very well and take fantastic damage.<div></div>

[Kardg]

<DIV>Added Ew Evol Thaumaturge's (level 41) in Ferrott and possibly the best pet in Ferrott the Manticore Terrorlord (level 44). Regular attacks 400-500, adds DoT's for about 100, power drain's and has an encounter nuke that does 1200. He comes fully equipped with a load of HP and doesn't stop until he's chewed through every ew evol there is. I cut him loose on a group of three single up yellow heroics and didn't bother mezzing as he had them down in about 20-30 seconds ending the fight with 65% of his HP. A must have pet if you don't mind the risk like me.</DIV><p>Message Edited by Kardgar on <span class=date_text>11-21-2006</span> <span class=time_text>12:33 PM</span>

[ca]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Mr. Dawkins wrote:<BR> <P>personaly i dont want to post the pets that i know work best</P> <P>because i know the second i do they will be made uncharmable</P> <P>thats how it works in this game</P> <P>find something that works for you</P> <P> wait 3 weeks</P> <P>its gone</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Really? so far the only mobs I have seen that have been turned uncharmable that were any good are those that are part of ring events and that is a good thing.</P> <P>plenty of pets that are spoken of daily on these forums as being bad [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn] are still plenty carmable with the same abilities, maybe I missed something but I have yet to see a mob that rocks out above all the others that is not a part of a ring event or named and higher that has been made uncharmable.</P> <P>Sorry you want to keep that info to yourself but thats ok, I am sure that eventually someone will stumble on that particular pet and will post it then it will be nerfed, course the only pet I can see doing that would be one with near infinite HP that one shots nameds and never breaks charm, and if you are hording that one to yourself thats just mean.</P>

[Mentla]

<div><blockquote><hr>Kardgar wrote:<div></div> <div>Added Ew Evol Thaumaturge's (level 41) in Ferrott and possibly the best pet in Ferrott the Manticore Terrorlord (level 44). Regular attacks 400-500, adds DoT's for about 100, power drain's and has an encounter nuke that does 1200. He comes fully equipped with a load of HP and doesn't stop until he's chewed through every ew evol there is. I cut him loose on a group of three single up yellow heroics and didn't bother mezzing as he had them down in about 20-30 seconds ending the fight with 65% of his HP. A must have pet if you don't mind the risk like me.</div><p>Message Edited by Kardgar on <span class="date_text">11-21-2006</span> <span class="time_text">12:33 PM</span></p><hr></blockquote>Can't wait to try him in PvP  <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></div>

[ca]

the harpies in steamfront have a few real good variations, will add them all in a few

[Roriondesexiest]

<blockquote><hr>Mr. Dawkins wrote:<div></div> <p>personaly i dont want to post the pets that i know work best</p> <p>because i know the second i do they will be made uncharmable</p> <p>thats how it works in this game</p> <p>find something that works for you</p> <p> wait 3 weeks</p> <p>its gone</p><hr></blockquote>Yeah the only thing that they ever make un-charmable or balance are the mobs that are needed for quests, nameds or mobs that are just insanely crazy, even then they tend to leave most of them alone. Corpse flames/candles still one shot writ mobs in bonemire, but are still tough to keep. The mistmoore servants while they hit for 20k, there are only so many mobs you can use them on in that zone, that I was able to find. <div></div>

[ca]

Page is readable but not editable ATM since EQ2i seems to be having issues, I am sure this will be fixed soon.

[ca]

<P>I am starting to add tags to undead pets that can be charmed by necros so they can use the page as well.</P> <P>page is working fine again BTW</P>

[Ibunubi]

<P>Barren Sky -- a Blacktalon visionary -- Illusionist level 64 -- Isle of the Guardians -- can nuke and power drain for 2k each.</P> <P>The Acadechism -- Mana Thirsters -- Wizards with a 1500 power drain.</P> <P>Vaults of El`Arad -- the Elementalists -- Wizards that always open with a 2k AE, and if you're really lucky they will cast Ice Comet up to 6k</P> <P>Halls of Fate -- the Infiltrators -- When they're attacks are up, they can Shadow blade up to 8k, and Infected blade can dot for 4k.</P>

[ca]

<DIV>thanks for adding those, list is really starting to flesh out.</DIV>

[Vask]

<P>Hey</P> <P>I wrote this in an earlier pet page but here goes again. </P> <P>Hobs Fleetwood in enchanted lands. Lvl 39 npc charmable. Fury type. Nukes for 1500, dots 300 and selfheals. VERY useful there. This is with master charm. </P> <P>Also a few more nps on the docks, brigand lvl 40 ish. Great group buffs and takes an awsome amount of beating. Nice damage and aes. </P> <P>Seen a friend coerce gusfeather in commonlands. Wiped the entire zone with it <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> But it was some time ago. They have maybe fixed that glitch. </P> <P> </P>

[Cattastrophy]

<P>Very good page yes, I've been looking for someone who has been keeping track of good pets. However, I have yet to see the best few I use in the list. </P> <P>Also, the true solo potential of a Coercer isn't in the pet you charm, given that helps a ton, but the wrong pet can also get you killed, even if charm DOES hold the entire time. My sugestion to all of you is to explore your class a bit more deeply. Check casting timers and durations of spells, learn you character inside out, then enjoy soloing in places and instances you never thought posible.</P> <P>Think I'm kidding? Well, to my knowledge I am the only person that solos named in Mistmore... yes solo... no not the trash, the 74^^^s. (althoguht the trash does make for good exp) Added tip, find a Assassin friend, this will speed up your kills 200%, neither of you will ever even get touched and it makes for easy pulls. </P> <P>....now if I could only find time to make a proper sig.</P>

[Korpo]

Just inside the entrance to Crypt of Valdoon there are something Corhorts (I think) that are... coercers. They nuke for like 2.2-2.5k quite a bit. Now if only I could do that.<div></div>

[The Dark Savant]

Not to mention that if you have Tashiana, you can have the Valdoon coercers nuking for something like 3.5k every few seconds while the mob is fully debuffed. That's assuming their 'AI' doesn't get in the way and they just melee during the ten second duration, anyway.And Catt - your advice is good, and this isn't meant to be a personal shot or anything - but you're not the 'only one' doing this stuff solo; quite a few of us coercers on this forum are out there soloing in high-end instances and zones.

[Nitanyspirit]

<DIV>I would be VERY appreciative if you could update the first page of this forum as you update the site as well <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />... I don't have access to many sites at work and that's the only time I  log onto the forums</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>*crosses fingers*</DIV>

[ca]

<P><FONT color=#ffff00>Nitt:</FONT> How do you mean? just put notes as to when more pets have been added to the front page? I don't want to add all the pets on the front page cause thats too much typing but I am more than happy to keep like a number of pets listed and dates of additions there.</P> <P> </P> <P><FONT color=#ffff00>Catt:</FONT> I REALY don't want to offend here but yes there are other coercers doing some pretty spectacular things, however that doesn't bother me, I think everyone should be proud of their acomplishments, I have issue with the several coercers that are on this posting and any others even remotely like it that pop on to say "nice list, my pets are better and I am not sharing", if you know of some awsome pets and are unwilling to share fine, so be it, just don't come onto a post and say it, let us live in ignorance of the gamebreaking epic charmable that we are missing, and you say that you are waiting to see the good ones added, well they never will be because so many others are waiting for it as well and no one is actually ADDING them.</P> <P>this is supposed to be a community site, the coercers themselves are supposed to be adding to it, and to those that are, thank you, the site is specifically off of the SOE forums so that we can shed some of the paranoia that they are going to nerf it, you know they barely read the forums much less the stuff that is GOOD for a class. /sigh ok sorry I am done.</P>

[nithrill]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> cavv wrote:<BR> <P>... snip ...</P> <P>this is supposed to be a community site, the coercers themselves are supposed to be adding to it, and to those that are, thank you, the site is specifically off of the SOE forums so that we can shed some of the paranoia that they are going to nerf it, you know they barely read the forums much less the stuff that is GOOD for a class. /sigh ok sorry I am done.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Hate to burst your bubble, but this thread and the wiki page have been read by two devs already ... lockey ... and the one mistery dev that is playing a coercer for a living <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />.</P> <P>Anyway, great thread and hope I'll be able to add to it soon (or as soon as my other possessiveness is done <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> )</P>

[Bombodale]

<div></div><div></div><div><blockquote><hr><p>cavv: this is supposed to be a community site, the coercers themselves are supposed to be adding to it, and to those that are, thank you, the site is specifically off of the SOE forums so that we can shed some of the paranoia that they are going to nerf it, you know they barely read the forums much less the stuff that is GOOD for a class. /sigh ok sorry I am done.</p><hr></blockquote>As a contributor to the Wiki Page, I am still learning to be  better coercer. I'm happy to add to the wiki as one of the best ways to learn is to share info. For those who don't want to, that's fine by me. I agree that SOE does nerf classes. You don't have to reveal your charmable pets if you don't want to.  However i'm sure Sony could do a search in their databases like:<i>  show me the logs of all coercers that have solo killed a ^^^74 named in the last month</i>PS: cavv i think you're doing great work.</div><p>Message Edited by Bombodale on <span class="date_text">12-15-2006</span> <span class="time_text">03:47 PM</span></p><p>Message Edited by Bombodale on <span class=date_text>12-15-2006</span> <span class=time_text>03:48 PM</span>

[Nitanyspirit]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> cavv wrote:<BR> <P><FONT color=#ffff00>Nitt:</FONT> How do you mean? just put notes as to when more pets have been added to the front page? I don't want to add all the pets on the front page cause thats too much typing but I am more than happy to keep like a number of pets listed and dates of additions there.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>I was just hoping someone would through in a reply with a copy of the wiki page, it sounds like a great resource. <BR>

[ca]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <P>nit the page is getting a bit large and updating it and this one to show all pets would be a bit difficult but if you send me a PM I will cut and paste the tier you want and send it to you.</P> <P><BR></P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Sorry, I was a bit irrate yesterday since I actually recieved  a <U>PM</U> from someone saying that I needed to add the great pets and that he had one that was gamebreaking, after a bit of a tell battle it turned out to be the servant of mistmoore that was already listed.</P> <P>Also someone thought it would be funny to delete the whole page and leave a nice little note calling coercers losers, luckily I back the page up every week so it is back up now.</P> <P>Message Edited by cavv on <SPAN class=date_text>12-15-2006</SPAN><SPAN class=time_text>07:22 AM</SPAN></P><p>Message Edited by cavv on <span class=date_text>12-15-2006</span> <span class=time_text>07:22 AM</span>

[ca]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> nithrill wrote:<BR> <BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> cavv wrote:<BR> <P>... snip ...</P> <P>this is supposed to be a community site, the coercers themselves are supposed to be adding to it, and to those that are, thank you, the site is specifically off of the SOE forums so that we can shed some of the paranoia that they are going to nerf it, you know they barely read the forums much less the stuff that is GOOD for a class. /sigh ok sorry I am done.</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P>Hate to burst your bubble, but this thread and the wiki page have been read by two devs already ... lockey ... and the one mistery dev that is playing a coercer for a living <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />.</P> <P>Anyway, great thread and hope I'll be able to add to it soon (or as soon as my other possessiveness is done <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> )</P><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>well I have no problems with devs visiting the sites but they better contribute, these guys (and gals) have the inside track and if they plan on nerfing a pet they had better add some others......................</P> <P>seriously devs if you look at it add to it thank you.</P>

[MokiCh]

<blockquote><hr>cavv wrote:<div></div> <div></div><p>Also someone thought it would be funny to delete the whole page and leave a nice little note calling coercers losers, luckily I back the page up every week so it is back up now.</p><hr></blockquote>Is this why the page is no longer editable?<div></div>

[ca]

<P><BR> </P> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> MokiChan wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> cavv wrote:<BR> <P>Also someone thought it would be funny to delete the whole page and leave a nice little note calling coercers losers, luckily I back the page up every week so it is back up now.</P> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>Is this why the page is no longer editable?<BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR> </P> <P>perhaps, I will fix it, gimme a day</P>

[ca]

nope, turns out the admin at eq2i.com locked the page to prevent vandalism, unfortunatly we got hit before the lock so just waiting for the admin to unlock it.

[schmee]

just to confirm, mistmoor censor in LP throws around a 1k DD every 10-20 secs or so (or less), swings for around 150-300, and is lower lvl than a lot of other mobs who do less damage (eg werewolves) and thus, is easier to keep in line.awesome pet here.<div></div>

[ca]

<P>Drop any pets you have in the disscusion area of the page and an admin will add it, not sure how long this will last but for the moment it is the only way to add pets.</P> <P>Lesser faydark will be having a lot of pets added to it soon since my coercer just hit T6 and wow that place has a ton of good pets, the scout pets use a lot of CA's so it looks like in at least this one zone they are a viable alternate to mages and preists (although there is no shortage of them either.</P>

[ca]

Page is unlocked! feel free to add to it

[kernolk]

Just a bump needed this and it wasn't on page one!!Happy Frostfell<div></div>

[Manopow]

I cant link to any of the "links" to add to the pet page.   the first few post from the OP

[schmee]

site was down most of yesterday.<div></div>

[Nitanyspirit]

Yesterday I charmed a sinister ghoul in sinking sands.  It had a 1800 point Direct Damage Corrosive Strike, as well as a single-target disease / poison mitigation reducer.  At level 45 I solo-killed the level 49^^^ Named spider named Siphon.

[ca]

all of the ghouls are good pets, sinister, decrepit, shambling and regular, they pretty much do the same damage with slight variations and most have out of encounter AOE's which is nice for taking down a lot of low group mobs such as pirates for quests, I will add something about that to the page.

[Nitanyspirit]

<DIV>(46+) Harpies in Steamfont - Sirens are a defiler mob.  They cast a 1k cold-based nuke, curse, lower attributes, and self-heal.  their HP are a little low, but are very good for casting at range.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>(47-4<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Ley Lanterns in steamfont - Furies.  They cast a divine based dot for 300'ish every 3 seconds, and a cold based dot that does 350ish every 3 seconds.  They also occasionally have strike of lightning for 1k+</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>(49-50) Heavy Toilers in Klakanon - Autoattacks for about 400-500 with +dps mod.  Has a 1.5k heat damage combat art.  It has a PBAE for about 500ish.  I actually had one tank for an XP group.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>(45)  Silent Wing in Feerott - Has an encountered based disease dot that does about 400 per 1 second.  Very fast reuse.  it also has a 1.5k+ single target hit.  It has a ridiculous amount of HP since it's a named.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>(45+) Giants in Sinking Sands - Either Guardian mobs, or wizard mobs that have both a lightning strike (DD) and fire chamber (DD + Stun), each hit for 900+.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[ca]

Thanks Nit, added to list.

[Nitanyspirit]

<DIV>(47) Rujarkian Leader (on Orc Highway, Sinking Sands) - Defiler mob.  Nukes with debuff attached for 1.2k.  A truckoad of HP... self-heals for over 1k.  Curses and lowers attributes of target.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>(49+) Klakanon Spiders - High autoattack, 350'ish.  Procs a poison dot with 100 initial damage, but 300-400 a tick.  Also does a 1.5k heat nuke on occasion.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>(47-4<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Spectre (Sinking Sands) - Shadowknight - 300ish auto attack.  Raging blow (200 damage + taunt).  Draw Strength (Str debuff / self buff).  1.3-1.9k disease based combat art.   Dangerous to charm as they are ^^^'s and kill me in about 3 hits, but rarely break charm early.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>(36-39) Thing of Shattered Iron (Runnyeye) - Necromancer - High Auto-attack, 250'ish range.  Always has locusts and grim coil up, each for 200'ish per tick.  It also has a warlock pet that will assist if the pet takes any damage.  Pet casts per standard necromancer mage pet.  This also has a lot of HP being a named.  This is a quest named so don't monopolize it.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>(40) Occular [Anything] (Runnyeye) - While these have many different names, they all have high auto-attack.  They all have a gaze attack which is mental based which hits for in excess of 1k.  They then differ by name, wizards having a cold-based nuke, illusionists have a power drain / stun.  I was able to have of these kill Rulgax in the final chamber with alot of rooting and Mez'ing(42^^^ Named).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>(50) Sinister Ghoul (Sinking Sands) - All ghouls are roughly the same, but these, being level 50 have Devestation in addition to Corrosive Strike, a Debuff, Poison Cloud.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>(39-45) Shambling Golems (Steamfont) - High HP, High Autoattack, 1k+ poison based single-target nuke.  300-400'ish melee CA stun / knockdown stomp.</DIV>

[ca]

putting me to work Nit, I like it, am adding these during my lunchbreak, and I like that you take auto attack into consideration since many do not. keep em coming.

[Nitanyspirit]

<P>It's DP<U>S</U>.  Big numbers are nice, but it's the damage output over the course of the whole fight that matters. Unless you're killing a ^^^ named your pet should be tanking with a +DPS mod and +hate buff on it anyhow.</P> <P> </P> <P> </P>

[Nitanyspirit]

<DIV>(46) Red Virulent Piranah (Sinking Sands) - Only useful for the caiman killing quests as they cannot leave water.  They have a very high auto attack and high(ish) avoidance.  They have a high damage dot (Razor Bite), they also summon several temporary pet which can also Razor Bite.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>(48+) Mechamagica Hunter-Killers (Klak'Anon) -Warlock mob, big single target Corrosive Strike, Encounter AE both above 1k.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[ca]

OK added all of those Nit, oddly enough there was no Runnyeye section so that has been added and I wasn't sure what class the piranah was so it is labeled as a fish type.

[Nitanyspirit]

It's a scout / fighter, it only has 2 combat arts so it could technically be either.

[ca]

I like fish as a class though, I will add that it could be other but I am keeping Fish

[Nitanyspirit]

<P>Put a note that all "Fish" mobs, charm will break it will immediately de-agro when you leave water.</P> <P>I will let you know more early 50's mobs once my coercer gains a few levels.  I've gotten from 1-47 in the last 2-3 weeks.</P>

[ca]

wow nice, I went from 1-48 in a month or so, but I don't play a toon if it is out of vitality

[Nitanyspirit]

<DIV>I find vitality simply a bonus, and nothing to be expected.</DIV>

[ca]

added a strategy to the page and a few more pets, rediscovering the joys of LT and SC, more to come

[ca]

updated main page to show how many pets listed

[Benboe]

Braken Sprtes in Zek - the ^ ones. They are jsut the best I found in that lvl. Not sure what they are, but they bloddy hit an Orc today I had not even debuffed at lvl 35 with M1 Beguile for 1.3k Crit - I am still impressed<div></div>

[Deklorn]

<DIV>a ley lantern:  they are in steamfont near the gysers and balesprings around loc -659, 78, 1418...hope this helps</DIV>

[Kardg]

<DIV>Vaults of El'Arad - A Quellithulian Archivist - Nukes frequently 3-5k</DIV> <DIV>PoA - A Blacktalon Initiate - Nukes frequently 3-5k</DIV> <DIV>Nek 3 - A possessed crate - Melee special attacks for 15-20k</DIV> <DIV>Forsaken City - Tormented Summoner - Nukes frequently 3-5k</DIV> <DIV>Blackscale Scepular - A Blackscale Darkrain - Nukes frequently 3-5k</DIV> <DIV>Nest </DIV>

[Kardg]

<DIV>Double Post Removed</DIV><p>Message Edited by Kardgar on <span class=date_text>01-29-2007</span> <span class=time_text>09:34 AM</span>

[Kardg]

<DIV>Vaults of El'Arad - A Quellithulian Archivist - Nukes frequently 3-5k</DIV> <DIV>PoA - A Blacktalon Initiate - Nukes frequently 3-5k</DIV> <DIV>Nek 3 - A Possessed Crate - Melee special attacks for 15-20k</DIV> <DIV>Forsaken City - A Tormented Summoner - Nukes frequently 3-5k</DIV> <DIV>Blackscale Scepular - A Blackscale Darkrain - Nukes frequently 3-5k</DIV> <DIV>Nest of the Great Egg - A Vultak Searcher/Guard - Nukes frequently for 2.5k-4k</DIV> <DIV>Mistmoore Catacombs - A Mistmoore Caretaker - Nukes frequently 3-4k. Large Self Heals</DIV> <DIV>Obelisk of Blight - A Consrt of Shadows - Nukes frequently 3-4k. Excellent Dirge buffs for the group</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[DwarvesR]

<DIV>I updated the page to include the following:</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>The Sharpthorn Prophets in LFay are Wardens.  Levels range from 50-53.  The frequently nuke for about 1200-1400, and autoattack for about 300-ish.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>In LP the Redbeard Chaplains are inquisitor mobs that frequently nuke for about 1800 and autoattack for about 450-500.   Levels range from 63-64.  They occasionally debuff, but it's pretty rare.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[ca]

<p>My computer fried so I took a nice break from online games, I do that every year so I don't burn out.</p><p>I now have a new rig and will be getting back to the task of updating this page.</p>

[FlamingDuck]

<p>Blacktimber Treant (Level 26-28  (Class: Druid I'm guessing) found around Bone Lake in Nektulos Forest. Really convinient to get since its near the griffon tower there. They cast two different nukes which each do about 400-700+ damage (Master charm), forgot the name of the nukes though. Also casts a nice debuff. My favourite pet in this zone with its strong burst damage. Hope that helps if I find anymore good ones I'll add them here for everyone. </p>

[Controlor]

Here is a thought i dont know if anyone has tried it yet with charmed pets. But once you have done that one quest in LP to get the mask. You can then posess your pet (at least my illusionist can). With the pet posessed you can see exactly the spells on the hotbar which they could cast. If you can do it with a charmed pet you then would be able to give a partly more accurate view of what each monster does. The dmg on the nukes name of nukes what buffs they have etc etc etc.

[Obsidiann]

<cite>Controlor wrote:</cite><blockquote>Here is a thought i dont know if anyone has tried it yet with charmed pets. But once you have done that one quest in LP to get the mask. You can then posess your pet (at least my illusionist can). With the pet posessed you can see exactly the spells on the hotbar which they could cast. If you can do it with a charmed pet you then would be able to give a partly more accurate view of what each monster does. The dmg on the nukes name of nukes what buffs they have etc etc etc.</blockquote> Coercers have a flat out possession spell that takes control of any charmable monster in the same way a necro/conj or illu possesses their pet, so yeah it's possible to see what spells they all have. As for damage and spells, well... the spells a mob has available when possessed and the spells a mob uses when charmed are usually quite different. E.g. if you possess a Doomwing biopist in HoF you won't find "Ball of Acid", its biggest nuke, on the hotbar anywhere. But if you charm it you'll find that it uses that spell quite often.

[Controlor]

<cite>Obsidiann wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Controlor wrote:</cite><blockquote>Here is a thought i dont know if anyone has tried it yet with charmed pets. But once you have done that one quest in LP to get the mask. You can then posess your pet (at least my illusionist can). With the pet posessed you can see exactly the spells on the hotbar which they could cast. If you can do it with a charmed pet you then would be able to give a partly more accurate view of what each monster does. The dmg on the nukes name of nukes what buffs they have etc etc etc.</blockquote> Coercers have a flat out possession spell that takes control of any charmable monster in the same way a necro/conj or illu possesses their pet, so yeah it's possible to see what spells they all have. As for damage and spells, well... the spells a mob has available when possessed and the spells a mob uses when charmed are usually quite different. E.g. if you possess a Doomwing biopist in HoF you won't find "Ball of Acid", its biggest nuke, on the hotbar anywhere. But if you charm it you'll find that it uses that spell quite often. </blockquote>Illys cant possess their pets without the mask : |