Coercer and Illusionist

[Drib]

<DIV>Plain and simple questions here......I play a Coercer and would like to 2box with an Illusionist, do their spells stack at all? I havent played the good vs bad classes together yet and was curious if anyone knows for sure?  Thanks! :smileyvery-happy:</DIV>

[Kyriel]

<DIV>im pretty sure power regen does not stack. dps stacks with haste. others, im not sure what illusionists have. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Fael]

I would just like to congratulate you on your choice of classes.  I three box a trio of Illusionists, which were formerly Coercers (of low level).  Concentrate on your strengths I say.  <div></div>

[Knesh]

<DIV><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Faelos wrote:<BR>I would just like to congratulate you on your choice of classes.  I three box a trio of Illusionists, which were formerly Coercers (of low level).  Concentrate on your strengths I say.  <BR><BR><BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>Talk about diversity <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV>

[Aoi]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Drib78 wrote:<BR> <DIV>Plain and simple questions here......I play a Coercer and would like to 2box with an Illusionist, do their spells stack at all? I havent played the good vs bad classes together yet and was curious if anyone knows for sure?  Thanks! :smileyvery-happy:</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Can you be more specific?  Do you mean buffs or offensive/debuffs?</P> <P>Power regens do not stack, and no INT or power/resist buff stack across any of the caster classes.  Not sure about AA buffs.</P> <P>Basically if the spells do somethign similar, chances are they are not going to stack (though honestly, something like stifle, mes, or stun is absolutely pointless to stack on a mob in most cases).  Furthermore, all chanters share immunity timers on epic mobs.</P> <P>Why 2 chanters?  You really aren't going to get near as much bang for the buck by 2-boxing such similar classes.</P> <P>Cyene</P>

[Drib]

<DIV>I thought I was pretty clear, guess not.  I wanted to find out if they same class good/evil can 2 box easily without ones spells overtaking the others. I know there are some limitations due to the design of the game. Simple curiousity made me post, and little sense of laziness.   As for accomplishing anything by playing 2 of the same class is not anyones concern but my own. Its not like eq2 is in no way difficult to play at all  now, as was it when it was launched.  Thats a totally different story all together, we're not getting into that discussion.  Im just looking for a simple answer.</DIV>

[gggun]

You got your answer... some spells stack, some don't. You can't have 2x breeze for example, but you can 2x nuke all day.<div></div>

[Aoi]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Drib78 wrote:<BR> <DIV>I thought I was pretty clear, guess not.  I wanted to find out if they same class good/evil can 2 box easily without ones spells overtaking the others. I know there are some limitations due to the design of the game. Simple curiousity made me post, and little sense of laziness.   As for accomplishing anything by playing 2 of the same class is not anyones concern but my own. Its not like eq2 is in no way difficult to play at all  now, as was it when it was launched.  Thats a totally different story all together, we're not getting into that discussion.  Im just looking for a simple answer.</DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Well, it's such an open-ended question...meaning, a complete answer would take pages to give since you would need to address each spell line individually.</P> <P>So simply speaking, there is no simple answer...sorry. <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>Like I said in my post above, 2 chanters is not going to be the most efficient combo.  There's just way too much overlap in abilities that don't provide more benefit when stacked.</P> <P>The fact that one is evil and the other is good is really irrelevant.  It's more about their role.  Chanters are CC with marginal DPS capabilties, regardless of what city they call home.</P> <P>Cyene</P>

[Flipmode]

<DIV>Our most important spells stack.  Our mezzes stack as long as neither of you have proc gear on.  Our mana does not stack.</DIV>

[Drib]

<DIV>Thanks Flip and GGGUnit. Thanks for actually answering the question. :smileyvery-happy: </DIV>

[borad]

<DIV>Its quite an odd combo but seems fun to play. You will gain lots of CC and damage prevention abilities but you have to do a lot of trade offs.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>- You can chain stun / stiffle greatly reducing mobs dps but will loose many of coercers reactives</DIV> <DIV>- You will get illusionist pet root, illusionist root and coercers roots to lock mob and let your charmed coercer pet kill mob from distance but you loose illusionist prismatic discord line in a root fight (in reality you loose all illusionist damage because the small damage amount pr. cast  / tick aint worth risking mob breaks root)</DIV> <DIV>- Normal power regen + mana cloak does not stack but special power regen will </DIV> <DIV>- Not certain if coercers "damage on mob on power consumption" works with power drain, but if it does your have a great combo. Illusionist and their pet are great to drain power (pet cast root, stiffle + powerdrain, stun + power drain and then it begin to cast damage spells).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV>

[Aoi]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> boradaf wrote:<BR> <DIV>Its quite an odd combo but seems fun to play. You will gain lots of CC and damage prevention abilities but you have to do a lot of trade offs.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>- You can chain stun / stiffle greatly reducing mobs dps but will loose many of coercers reactives</DIV> <DIV>- You will get illusionist pet root, illusionist root and coercers roots to lock mob and let your charmed coercer pet kill mob from distance but you loose illusionist prismatic discord line in a root fight (in reality you loose all illusionist damage because the small damage amount pr. cast  / tick aint worth risking mob breaks root)</DIV> <DIV>- Normal power regen + mana cloak does not stack but special power regen will </DIV> <DIV>- Not certain if coercers "damage on mob on power consumption" works with power drain, but if it does your have a great combo. Illusionist and their pet are great to drain power (pet cast root, stiffle + powerdrain, stun + power drain and then it begin to cast damage spells).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>Power drain doesn't trigger that reactive unfortunately.  It has to be the mob actually casting a spell/CA.  Would be kinda cool if it did though <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></P> <P>Cyene</P>