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Ghu

08-29-2006, 06:26 PM

<DIV>Hey folks,</DIV> <DIV>I was curious if anyone was doing that instance in the adventure pack very much. I have been there two times now and my guildies are tellin me they won't go again. Both times we had about the same results. Killed 4~5 named, cleared tons of trash, died enough to require 2 repair kits each by the time we were done.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Total loots from named both times, all but one mob dropped wood. One master chest each run.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Now the group each time was well balanced with very experienced players in 90% fabled T7 gear. Zerker tank, warden, mystic, wizard, ranger and coercer(me).</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>we found many bugs. Mobs that weren't in a room for one toon were there and agro for another etc.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>we fought the fire guy with his four helpers the first time we went in there and wiped big time on him. THe second trip in we started fighting him and I charmed one of his helpers. We all wiped except for one toon (the warden) that ran. Now here's where it got interesting.. after I died, my pet kept fighting for me. In fact, he killed the other mobs, including the named and then reset as the sole remaining mob in the room. Talk about strange! (Has this happened to others and any thoughts on why?)</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>we revived and grbbed him real fast and killed him, wooden chest but at least the encounter was clear. We also got a message saying a path was open but the force field there was still up.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>This zone has me intriuged. I like a challenge but I'm not willing to keep talking my guildies into going there just to frustrate them unless there were better rewards waiting. </DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Any input would be great <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <DIV>Vyndion</DIV>

JackAll

08-29-2006, 07:24 PM

I beat Nizara a while back and I think it’s the best zone in the game. It’s the only place I can think of that’s still a challenge <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> First the group 1 A raid geared tank. We used our MT guardian 2 Warden 3 Templar 4 Brigand - Very nice to have for the final orange con mob 5 Wizard - Any dps will do really 6 Coercer - Illusionist will do but a coercer has a big advantage CHARM I’m not saying this is the only setup that will work but it got the job done very easy. By easy I mean I died a total of 4 times. Some random thoughts... I don’t keep pets in there. I just charm 1 of the encounter and kill it after the rest is gone. Some places sonic boom will get you killed as it goes through the floor. Try not to use it unless you need the stun to prevent a wipe. You can kill the epic mob twice. Once as x4 and then again as x2. The fire mob is fairly random it seems. Some runs he is easy other times he wipes us a few times. The only resist that seems to do anything is mental/magic. The mobs in there use mezz a lot. Some even cast through mezz. The blobs on the hill before the final named can be pulled safely with charm. U just have to find the right spot. You really have to stay out of the lights in the last fight!!!

Crono1321

08-30-2006, 01:20 AM

I actually still run this instance for guildies. With a good group, it's really not a challenge until the boss now, I am pretty sure they nerfed mob hp and attack power. The only mobs I really mezzed were the last two adds that come with the final boss. Charm isn't really all that useful in there, it tends to break (with master charm/50++ subjugation), and you won't finish an encounter for possible legendary/fabled. DO go in there with (my preferred group) 1 Plate Tank 1 Brawler 1 Druid 1 Shaman/Cleric 1 Coercer 1 DPS (brigand or ranged dps due to high dmg AE's on certain mobs) The only time we wiped most recently was on a bad pull during the final level 75 named. Being well geared helps a lot. That being said, still bring 1 repair kit for each person just for safe keeping! <div></div>

Tanatus

08-30-2006, 06:06 AM

<DIV>Well this zone trivial if you have combo bard+enchanter - personal favorite</DIV> <DIV>Zerker-Dirge-Coercer-Warden-Mystic-Brigand...Daydream make some places easy a lot, permanent charm kinda worthless but charm 1 of encounter then kill it in the end work nicely</DIV>Message Edited by Tanatus on 08-29-2006 10:07 PM

nscragg

08-30-2006, 09:28 PM

<div><blockquote><hr>Ghunn wrote:<div> </div> <div>This zone has me intriuged. I like a challenge but I'm not willing to keep talking my guildies into going there just to frustrate them unless there were better rewards waiting. </div><hr></blockquote>For me, the reward is beating the toughest group instanced zone in the game over and over. I don't take anyone in there with me that wants anything other than the challenge as I can't carry people - everyone has to pull their weight. As for the treasures, everytime I go we drop 3-4 legendary chests and a master. As few people take the time or possess the skill for the zone, you make pretty good coin selling what you don't need/want.</div>

Lolthinae

08-30-2006, 09:41 PM

I love Nizara :smileyhappy: It's one of the few zones left that is still challenging, and more than anything else, fun!! I do Nizara twice a week, once on my illusionist and once on my coercer, and they both do well in there. Yes, the first times we did it we died a lot, and then some, but after a few times you will learn how to avoid the bugs, how to deal with the different encounters, which resists you need, when to keep at a distance, and so forth. Don't give up after 2 runs, go back there, learn the zone - it's well worth it. Although most of the loot quickly becomes pretty ordinary, there is a chance for some very, very nice and rare drops. While going with a small core of people who now know the zone well - and enjoy it as much as I do - we also try to take 1 or 2 "new" guildies through on each run, so they all get a chance to completee the rift quest and experience the zone. This means that my groups vary quite a bit, but typically it's along the following lines: Guardian/zerker Templar Mystic/warden/defiler Coercer/illusionist 2 DPS (mages, scouts, fighters) Try to make sure that you have at least one debuffing class in this mix, and decent DPS from whatever combo of mages, scouts and fighters you take along. Once you learn the zone, you'll never want to leave again <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

AdiX__Styxx__

09-01-2006, 12:40 AM

My group consisted of bruiser / brigand / dirge / coercer / coercer / defiler yup two coercers! we could have done it with only 5 porolly woudl have taken a lil longer but we have 6 people in our guild of which 2 are coercers go figure we try to hvae all of us go whenever we do an instance! Anyways yea learn the zone check the combat stuff if ya wipe find out why ya wiped then try again. It is easier then it looks! OH btw two coercer was great fun on the end boss we charmed one add each and made em attack the boss bye bye adds! and then bye bye boss!

Crono1321

09-01-2006, 01:01 AM

Can't recommend daydream in that zone...last thing you want is to run into or aggro mobs you tiptoed by earlier. <div></div>

Tanatus

09-01-2006, 04:37 AM

Ever used Daydream skill at all? I use this skill all the time not only Nizara - mobs wont agro on you as long as you stay outside of agro radius. But with what I do agree - no reason to leave any mobs behind - agro [Removed for Content] in this zone