Looking for Confirmed List of Mobs that drop Beguile, Dominate, Domination

[Zendi_Perma]

<DIV>I know it has been asked before, but I did not see a list.    These things are never on the broker on Permafrost.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Thanks in advance!</DIV>

[latrocin]

<DIV>Master and Adebts are random drops from any mob. But named mobs have a higher chance to drop a master that is within there level.. IE level 25 named mob will drop 20-34 spells!.. I know people who have recived a Dominate master from a trash Down arrow mob.. So again it is RANDOM! there is no list</DIV>

[latrocin]

<P>Also search is your friend!</P> <P> </P> <P><A href="http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/search?submitted=true&type=message&advanced=true&body_all=Master+drops&q=&body_without=&page_size=50&author=&board_id=27" target=_blank>http://eqiiforums.station.sony.com/eq2/search?submitted=true&type=message&advanced=true&body_all=Master+drops&q=&body_without=&page_size=50&author=&board_id=27</A></P>

[Zendi_Perma]

<P>Unfortunately, search told me [expletive haxx0red by Raijinn].     I did read one post that someone said the jailer in SoS drops Domination.      Haven't seen that kind of detail for Beguile.     Dominate maybe off the named eye in CT.</P> <P>So Beguile at this point is my major question.</P> <P>The trick to search is having useful info at the end.</P>

[latrocin]

<DIV>^^^</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>IT'S RANDOM! That is all you need to know <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV><p>Message Edited by latrocinor on <span class=date_text>08-27-2006</span> <span class=time_text>03:55 PM</span>

[whytakemine]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> latrocinor wrote:<BR> <DIV>^^^</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>IT'S RANDOM! That is all you need to know <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></DIV> <P>Message Edited by latrocinor on <SPAN class=date_text>08-27-2006</SPAN> <SPAN class=time_text>03:55 PM</SPAN><BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE> <P><BR>I'm not sure that's true.  I haven't paid much attention on my coercer, but my assassin main there are two spells I know of that are semi-rare:</P> <P>Surveillance:  I've seen it drop once, and know two other people who had it drop for them.  All were off Kettleleader in the Nest.</P> <P>Decapitate:  I've never seen it drop, but have heard of it dropping probably 4-5 times.  All were in PoA or Deathtoll, but I'm unsure of which mobs.</P> <P>My opinion is that there is a generic loot table and most masters have a chance of dropping from any mob in the right level range, but certain masters are only part of certain mobs loot tables.  Of course my sample size is very small so it's hard to say how it works.</P>

[Zendi_Perma]

<DIV>I agree with the last poster.   The chance that I looted the same level 34 Illusionist spell from Varsoon two nights in a row, and the same swashy CA from one of the RoV mobs twice in one night stretches the statistical concept of random.</DIV>

[latrocin]

This is the last post I will make here. I do agree that some spells drop more than others but that does not mean its not random. I have killed varsoon about 100 times and the only thing that is not random is the items he drops the spells are random I may kill him ever day for a week and get 2 of the same SK spells. But then for 3 weeks after that I don't see it. I use to farm that area and I killed him with a guildie daily because for some reason you all get 2 MASTERS. If you kill him twice and get the same spell it happens because there are only a set amount of spells in his level range and lots of people say there X spell is missing from this list if you do a search the drop rate of some spells is MUCH MUCH smaller.I can tell you that Dominate droped for my friend from a trash mob in Sinking sands. I have killed I would say about 200+ of the spider mobs and never even got a master chest. He killed a trash spider average and he got that master so I can confirm that the spider trash mobs in SS drop Dominate.. <p>Message Edited by latrocinor on <span class=date_text>08-28-2006</span> <span class=time_text>04:59 PM</span>

[nscragg]

Broker seems to drop these fairly often <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Of course, you have to drop coin first. =/<div></div>

[Zendi_Perma]

<DIV>I wish they dropped on the broker like most of my masters.   However, you can't find any charm spells in Qeynos or Freeport on Permafrost.</DIV>

[tugnut]

yea i paid well over the price for my lvl61 master but it was a case of how bad you want it... paid18pp for it. but some one on guk at mo thinks he could get a lot more for the one he selling, he started at 120pp lol and now is at 70pp and been at that price for a wile now.

[Outerspace]

Wouldn't really say that's too much over the price of a very rare spell that vastly improves your toon. I don't know, I suppose it depends on your server. Sure you might pay 18pp for Domination but how much do your other masters cost? 2pp? 3pp? It certainly evens itself out when you can go straight to masters and not even bother with Adept 3's.Try being a necromancer, see how much their pet spells go for. lol.<div></div>

[Alaeth]

<blockquote><hr>Outerspace wrote:Wouldn't really say that's too much over the price of a very rare spell that vastly improves your toon. I don't know, I suppose it depends on your server. Sure you might pay 18pp for Domination but how much do your other masters cost? 2pp? 3pp? It certainly evens itself out when you can go straight to masters and not even bother with Adept 3's.Try being a necromancer, see how much their pet spells go for. lol.<div></div><hr></blockquote>That might make sense if Domination really was that much of an improvement over Dominate, but it isn't. You get an extra 10 minutes max duration, and that's about it; the regen rate increase is so minimal compared to the health and power pools of T7 mobs that it might as well not even be there. I would probably pay 10-ish plat for the convenience of the extra duration, but when that's all the upgrade offers--a certain amount of convenience, rather than any substantial quantitative benefits--I very much doubt I would pay any more than that.

[Outerspace]

I was assuming he didn't have M1 Dominate <span>:smileyindifferent:</span><div></div>

[Alaeth]

<blockquote><hr>Outerspace wrote:I was assuming he didn't have M1 Dominate <span>:smileyindifferent:</span><div></div><hr></blockquote>Ah, okay, I would agree with you in that case. For some reason there's been almost what you might term a glut of M1 Dominates popping up on my server recently, so I suppose I was somewhat taking for granted that many upper-level Coercers would have it.

[ca]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Outerspace wrote:<BR>Wouldn't really say that's too much over the price of a very rare spell that vastly improves your toon. I don't know, I suppose it depends on your server. Sure you might pay 18pp for Domination but how much do your other masters cost? 2pp? 3pp? It certainly evens itself out when you can go straight to masters and not even bother with Adept 3's.<BR><BR><FONT color=#ffff00>Try being a necromancer, see how much their pet spells go for. lol.<BR></FONT> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE>I think that is one of the things that is making me enjoy this coercer so much, I can actually afford the masters, my 70 necro can go broke trying to get a completely useless master much less a pet, the last Grim Heretic (caster) pet sold on the broker on my server went for 50plat and this is actually a fairly common drop and not the most used pet, the tank pet is around 80 plat WHEN you see it for sale and the assasin pet (ultra-rare) has been on the broker maybe 3 times and sold for over 100plat in a day each time /sigh<BR>

[Crono1321]

Necro pets sell for 200pp because its a me-too class...everyone plays one wee! <div></div>

[ca]

200plat???!!!??? wow I am glad I am not on that server, I just don't understand how anyone has that kind of money, most I have ever had at one time is 36 plat and I do fairly good broker sales and kill money dropping mobs all the time, eh whatever, I am much happier with my coercer than I was with my necro and I am definetly good with my necro, I vastly enjoy the tactics and challenge of the coercer.

[Leawyn]

<DIV>My guildie sold me (at my insistance, didn't wanna rip him out of money) my Domination the other day. I still haven't scribed it because I like linking it so much lol!</DIV>

[Morthore]

<P>M1 Dominate dropped off a trash mob in CT for me (still use it at level 70)</P> <P> </P> <P>I have yet to see a Domination M1 on broker</P>

[tugnut]

<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Alaeth wrote:<BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE> <HR> Outerspace wrote:<BR>I was assuming he didn't have M1 Dominate <SPAN>:smileyindifferent:</SPAN><BR> <BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>Ah, okay, I would agree with you in that case. For some reason there's been almost what you might term a glut of M1 Dominates popping up on my server recently, so I suppose I was somewhat taking for granted that many upper-level Coercers would have it.<BR> <HR> </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>I did have Dominate... but harldy ever see the lvl61 on sale so was a question of how bad i wanted it!  as you say the plus for it are not what you would say worth the price increase. but saying that its nice looking down at the timer and seeing 10mins left ect. also the up on lvls for resistance is helpful to... i am happy with it and it only took me a week to replace the cash...lots of soloing in bonemire <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />